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@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH

@  -LittleAutob... : (09 July 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Okay?

@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.

@  Trpodeca : (07 July 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Man I just learnt about what seemed like a really cool show, only to realize it was a dream and it dosen't really exist.

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 01:02 PM)

Just something I read that I wanted to share. I heard "gray rock" mentioned in a video, so I looked it up and that was the definition.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 July 2020 - 12:20 PM)

It's a fancy way of saying "Ignore annoying people".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (07 July 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Bass XO has a habit of pasting random drivel here as if doing so were profound.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 July 2020 - 11:30 AM)

And this would be in relation to... what exactly?

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 11:25 AM)

"One strategy for dealing with a narcissist or sociopath is to act like a "gray rock," meaning that you become uninteresting and unresponsive. You don't feed their needs for drama or attention. You don't show emotion, say anything interesting, or disclose any personal information"

@  Nevermore : (06 July 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Oh wow. Studio Series Offroad Bumblebee is awesome. His articulation is amazing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (06 July 2020 - 11:18 AM)

Oof-

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

I got Studio Series 39 Cogman yesterday and woke up to find he'd decapitated my titans returns figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 July 2020 - 10:19 PM)

If I had a sarcasm powered mouth.. ooohh waaaiiittt...

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 05:01 PM)

Heh

@  Bass X0 : (04 July 2020 - 02:56 PM)

"If I had sarcasm-powered legs, I'd do a happy dance...!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 July 2020 - 02:39 PM)

The real clones were the friends we made along the way.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 01:47 PM)

So the Emperor in episodes 1 through 6 was a clone?

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:47 AM)

(And the 0th anniversary of the last time I couldn't do math.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Today is the 24th anniversary of the day we fought off an alien invasion with the help of Will Smith.


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Best Answer Sharkshadow, 25 April 2020 - 11:15 AM

Ok here’s Sharky’s quick and dirty histography of the invasions of the British Isles. First up is Julius Cesar in 55 BCE.   Well his first invasion was in 55, after being initially repulsed by the natives he tried again in 54 BCE with five legions instead of the two he had brought initially. Things seemed to be going well for him but rebellion by some of the gallic tribes he had  conquered under Vercingetorix forced him to make a peaceable arrangement with the locals where they would provide Rome tribute in exchange for them forgetting Britain existed.   

11 years later the legions of Emperor Claudius conquered the area around  what eventually would become London and gradually spread out across the island eventually stopping at a place called the Stanegate.  This conquest of the island took till 87 BCE and stopped in the area where Scotland and Britain butt up against one another. I won’t go into Hadrian’s wall here much, but I will say its not accurate to say it was built to keep the Picts out.  Historians and Archeologists don’t know the exact reasons why the wall was built, with the keep out the Picts theory being just one of several.
 

Next up is the Carausian Rebellion in 286 CE, where Romans invaded Roman territory, so I guess it counts?  A Roman naval officer named Carausius who had been charged with keeping the English Channel clear of pirates ,decided he liked the sound of Emperor before his name and with the support of the two British legions, the pirates he had been charged to defeat and three gaulic regions rebelled against Rome.  This of course sat poorly with the current Emperors of Rome ( don’t ask it’s a long story) so they spent 7 years building up a fleet and steam rolled over Carausius’s allies who had assassinated the man before and were making a general nuisance of themselves to the British populace.

Now we get closer to better documented times, the Saxon Migrations into Britain. By this time, the western roman empire was on the verge of collapse. The outer provinces of the empire were abandoned to their own fates during this time period with the legions guarding them being recalled for Italy’s protection.  Into this convenient power vacuum came the Saxons. There were several waves to the migrations of the Saxons over a period of centuries, so it is a bit of an exhaustive topic. The main point ot get is this is what slid Britain from a Romanesque culture into a Germanic one and began the English language’s descent into madness.  

im just going to copy a list form Wikipedia now as were getting close to the area of time I don’t know that much about.  Hope this has answered some questions, and if not hug it I  got to use me degree for the first itme in years.

The eighth to eleventh century invasions of the British isles by the Vikings.

Invasion and partial conquest by the Great Heathen Army in 865

Danish invasion of England, ending successfully at the Battle of Assandun in 1016.

The 1066 Norman conquest of England under William the Conqueror.

The 1136-1138 invasions of northern England by David I of Scotland and subsequent occupation until 1157.

The 1139 invasion of England by Matilda during The Anarchy

The 1149 and 1153 invasions by the future Henry II during The Anarchy

The 1216 invasion of England by Louis VIII of France and Alexander II of Scotland, during the First Barons' War.

Various invasions by the Scots from 1314-1513 during the Wars of Scottish Independence, the Hundred Years' War, and further Anglo-Scottish Wars.

The 1326 invasion of England by Isabella of France and Roger Mortimer, leading to Isabella's regency until the ascendancy of her son, Edward III.

The 1386 invasion by France was organised but never executed during the Hundred Years' War.

The 1470 invasion in support of the Readeption of Henry VI

The 1471 invasion of Edward IV leading to the final deposing of Henry VI of England

The 1485 invasion via Wales by Henry Tudor leading to the Battle of Bosworth Field

The 1487 invasion from Ireland of the pretender Lambert Simnel, who claimed to be Edward Plantagenet, 17th Earl of Warwick, the rightful king.

The 1495 landing with troops at Deal by Perkin Warbeck, who claimed to be Richard of Shrewsbury, the rightful King.

The 1513 invasion of England by the Scots under James IV, which culminated in the Battle of Flodden

The 1545 French invasion of the Isle of Wight during the Italian Wars.

The 1588 Spanish Armada was a failed invasion of England after it was heavily defeated by storms and the English fleet.

The 1596 2nd Spanish Armada shattered by storms off Cape Finisterre

The 1597 3rd Spanish Armada dispersed by storms off the Lizard; landfall by small number of Spanish troops in Cornwall and Wales.

The 1640 Scottish Covenanter invasion of England as part of the Second Bishops' War, culminates at the Battle of Newburn.

The 1644 Scottish Covenanter invasion (led by the Earl of Leven) of Northumberland as part of the First English Civil War.

The 1648 invasion of England by a Scottish army in support of Charles I (King of Scots) against the English Parliament, launching the Second English Civil War; defeated at Preston.

The 1667 Dutch Raid on the Medway and Felixstowe Landguard during the Second Anglo-Dutch War.[1]

The 1685 landing in England by the Duke of Monmouth and his supporters during the Monmouth Rebellion

The 1688 landing in England by William III of Orange, known in historiography as the Glorious Revolution.

The 1690 attack by the French on Teignmouth, Devon.
and the nazi invasion of the channel islands.

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#61 Thundercracker Prime

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Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:10 PM

 

There's literally no reason to assume that there's a risk of that. That's just a sci-fi plot device. It's fiction. You're talking about fiction.

 

In real life, people make decisions based on what's most likely to have a positive outcome. The reason you can't do that in a time travel story is because time travel is a plot device that breaks everything if you think about it for more than ten seconds at a time.

Are you referring to what I said?

Yes, I am (I thought rather unambiguously) referring to the factually incorrect and easily debunked claim you made. 

 

As an ex-Whovian, I appreciate your logic, but I still have my principles.

Your principle is a science fiction plot device. It's not a real thing. It was made up for a sci-fi show. That's what we're telling you.

 

I'm sorry, but which claim did I make?


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Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:18 PM

Oh, right, the risk of causing something worse than the Holocaust.


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Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:38 PM

The problem with time travel is that it more or less runs on bullshit.



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Posted 25 May 2020 - 05:46 PM

Hence why the TARDIS will never run out of power, I can bullshit in godly proportions.

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Posted 25 May 2020 - 10:45 PM

Oh, right, the risk of causing something worse than the Holocaust.

I like that you missed something bigger than the Holocaust. 

 

But yes, this whole logic that if you could change something, it'd risk making something worse happen in principle, this is fundamentally bad philosophy.

 

Your responsibility would be to act in a manner that most probably benefits the world, as it always is. Nothing about fairy stories involving time travel changes that. If you're transported into the past, it is now your present, and you are responsible for the choices you make there as you are in any other context.

 

But I guess if you can't distinguish sci-fi from reality, I'd honestly rather you step aside and let other people make the decisions too

 

Edit: Like I mean, your actions right now in the present have an equal chance of contributing to the rise of the next SuperHitler. You get that, right? Do you get that? I want you to at least get that.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 25 May 2020 - 11:03 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:12 AM

Besides, going back to kill Hitler never works anyway.

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 05:30 AM

Im opposed to the idea because you don't know what little change you do , might make a major event turn out differently. when i was little there was a show on TLC called Connections that illustrated this. 



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Posted 26 May 2020 - 06:46 AM

Hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 11:22 AM

Im opposed to the idea because you don't know what little change you do , might make a major event turn out differently. when i was little there was a show on TLC called Connections that illustrated this. 

It's a BBC show, which makes it slightly less surprising that it's good, but that's also very much not the point. A better illustration that isn't sullying a classic piece of documentary TV is how Obama wouldn't have become president if Star Trek: Voyager was never created. 

 

Change isn't and can't be inherently bad, though. I don't know how many times I have to repeat it before someone stops and actually thinks it through, but this is exactly equally true of your actions now in the present, you just know one possible outcome fewer. You always "might make a major event turn out differently" and the only difference of any kind in the time travel hypothetical is that the event might be within the time that used to be your past.

 

What you would need to propose that changing the past in this hypothetical implies some kind of danger is to find a difference between the effects of actions you take in your "present" and actions you could take in your "past" in this hypothetical. You can't, of course - there strictly is no difference.  

 

Hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

I have to point out here that the premise of the time travel hypothetical is that you do, indeed, have said hindsight of exactly one outcome of events. Your aphorism is otherwise exactly as true or false in this scenario as it is in any other, but it's a bit off the mark considering.

 

Perhaps what you both mean is that you wouldn't personally want to be responsible for the outcome of rerolling all the dice. That's obviously entirely up to you. But what you can't say is that it would be unwise, because that's logically indefensible. If you feel the need to fall back on handwaving to defend it, it really is probably the first reason, even if you feel like it ought to be the second. Which is, again, fine - just don't confuse them.


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Posted 26 May 2020 - 12:06 PM

 

Oh, right, the risk of causing something worse than the Holocaust.

I like that you missed something bigger than the Holocaust. 

 

But yes, this whole logic that if you could change something, it'd risk making something worse happen in principle, this is fundamentally bad philosophy.

 

Your responsibility would be to act in a manner that most probably benefits the world, as it always is. Nothing about fairy stories involving time travel changes that. If you're transported into the past, it is now your present, and you are responsible for the choices you make there as you are in any other context.

 

But I guess if you can't distinguish sci-fi from reality, I'd honestly rather you step aside and let other people make the decisions too

 

Edit: Like I mean, your actions right now in the present have an equal chance of contributing to the rise of the next SuperHitler. You get that, right? Do you get that? I want you to at least get that.

 

I was going through several different threads yesterday, and this one was on the bottom of my priority list.  Also, by your logic, say I went back in time to before Hitler rose to power.  Is he guilty of crimes he has yet to commit?  Also, my belief that going back in time and killing Hitler might cause something worse to happen is based on the fact that he actually sabotaged his own war effort by focusing on killing Jews, Slavs, and other "undesirables" instead of properly allocating resources to fight the Allies and the Soviets.


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Posted 26 May 2020 - 12:34 PM

No, it's not, because that's not what you said. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 12:46 PM

All this talk of murdering Hitler... Couldn't we just, like, give him some post-War counseling and some Xanax?

The Great War can't have been good his mental health and maybe he just needed a little grief counseling.

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Posted 26 May 2020 - 01:01 PM

I dunno, seems like appeasement to me, something something platforming something something punching X ]


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 26 May 2020 - 03:38 PM

Just go buy him a better paint set, maybe a couple of hookers, it'll sort itself out.



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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:51 PM

Eh it probably goes back to my university training. all my professors hated speculative history and it must of rubbed off on me.   You can't change what has happen'd just how the past is interpreted. 



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Posted 26 May 2020 - 04:59 PM

Since there's no records of time travellers popping up in our era or earlier, it's possible the future doesn't exist yet because our present is actually at the front of the timeline, which means we can go back and change the past because there's no predetermined future to guide our actions.



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Posted 26 May 2020 - 05:09 PM

I tend to think that time travel is almost certainly impossible in physics. 

 

Eh it probably goes back to my university training. all my professors hated speculative history and it must of rubbed off on me.   You can't change what has happen'd just how the past is interpreted. 

And to be clear, I'm not saying you could determine any outcome in advance, in the same sense that we can't predict the future in, like, reality. When people say if Y had happened instead, X would have happened, as if they think it's some kind of math problem, I think that kind of claim is on very shaky ground. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 26 May 2020 - 05:09 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 26 May 2020 - 05:34 PM

History is such a complex thing, it's hard to pin anything down to a single event.

Hitler was the figure head of the National Socialist party, but he didn't invent it or the ideology, a lot of what laid the groundwork for WWII was the result of the previous war and the heavy sanctions put on Germany and the holocaust was more a consequence of out of control eugenics than a specific plan to create murder factories.

And even that's grossly simplified.

But yeah, it's all moot anyway, since time travel is almost certainly not possible without a massive change in how we view physics.

Which is why it's fun to speculate on possible alternative time lines and use the concept as a vehicle for story telling. It's one of the Sci Fi concepts that will always be fiction XD

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