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@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:47 AM)

(And the 0th anniversary of the last time I couldn't do math.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Today is the 24th anniversary of the day we fought off an alien invasion with the help of Will Smith.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 10:41 AM)

Oh the end of the Ottoman Empire of course.

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 10:14 AM)

*ahem* 4th of July....

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 08:14 AM)

Nothing of importance has happened before, and nothing of importance will happen again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 08:12 AM)

Nothing of importance happened today.

@  Telly : (03 July 2020 - 09:54 PM)

i want a "i survived 'rona and all i got was this lousy t-shirt"

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 July 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Slogan for 2021: "I Lived, Bitch."

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 July 2020 - 03:23 PM)

They should make the next book in the Survivors series 'I SURVIVED CORONA VIRUS 2020'

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 July 2020 - 03:23 PM)


@  Nevermore : (03 July 2020 - 06:59 AM)

Probably gonna assemble Devastator after work.

@  Nevermore : (03 July 2020 - 06:58 AM)

Ooooh. Overload arrived. He's surprisingly fun.

@  Bass X0 : (02 July 2020 - 04:00 PM)

He's sweeter than the average bear.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 July 2020 - 03:14 PM)

Convert him to Maple Syrup.

@  Bass X0 : (02 July 2020 - 03:10 PM)

what would Canada do with Yogi?

@  Cyoti : (01 July 2020 - 12:51 PM)

We can deport Yogi back to Canada now.

@  Sabrblade : (01 July 2020 - 12:50 PM)

Jellystone National Pawk. A westful wetweat.

@  Rycochet : (01 July 2020 - 12:47 PM)

Jellystone. We're going to be plunged into a decade of poor animation. Fortunately we've been led by bad cartoon characters for years so we won't notice much difference.

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 July 2020 - 06:19 AM)

what next? YELLOWSTONE?

@  Nevermore : (01 July 2020 - 05:46 AM)

Thanks, dead person.

@  Bass X0 : (01 July 2020 - 05:06 AM)

congratulations to all survivors of the first half of 2020.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 June 2020 - 10:21 PM)

21 for me, but after numerous repetitions I got it down to 17 and a half.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 June 2020 - 06:16 PM)

I transform in six steps from human to human sitting on my ass at the computer and back again!

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 June 2020 - 05:55 PM)

x-x when in vehicle mode we can travel much F A R T H E R-

@  wonko the sane? : (30 June 2020 - 05:52 PM)

Because despite the fact that we can travel around the world in the time it takes to get a good nights sleep and a couple of meals: people rarely wander more than 25 miles away from home for the duration of their lives.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I don't know how many days that trip takes - especially while sightseeing - but explaining they're 3936 kilometers (2445 miles) apart gives an idea, paradoxically because it is too large to easily picture.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 05:44 PM)

Aye.  When I catch lay people discussing miles and not how long the trip takes, it is in an attempt to stress how far away something is... like NYC to LA.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:20 PM)

But I can imagine 45 *minutes* easily.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:20 PM)

I can imagine a mile, it's a distance I've run. I can't really imagine 45 miles.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:19 PM)

I think there's also an element of the thing where things that are much bigger than us all blur together.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:49 AM)

If you're not, then you're more concerned with how long it takes.  Actual distance doesn't tell you that very well.  Besides traffic and road conditions, you'll need to know what kind of driving (city/interstate/rural/etc.).

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:47 AM)

Distance matters if you're being paid by the mile.

@  TM2-Megatron : (30 June 2020 - 11:44 AM)

Canadians are the same way, for the most part. If you're driving somewhere far, especially, it helps you plan out the day more than a distance in KM would.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:42 AM)

We use the time it takes to get someplace because that is what is relevant to us.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 June 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Because even we can't figure out miles half the time.

@  Paladin : (30 June 2020 - 09:54 AM)

it's a big country with a lot of empty space. between our citizens' ears.

@  Bass X0 : (30 June 2020 - 09:52 AM)

Why do most Americans measure distance by hours of driving?

@  TM2-Megatron : (29 June 2020 - 07:26 PM)

And as a result the world's lone blu-ray release of the film, an Australian disc that came out 7 years ago, now goes for hundreds of dollars on eBay. Thanks Disney.

@  TM2-Megatron : (29 June 2020 - 06:21 PM)

Well, they censored Daryl Hannah's butt in Splash :rolleyes

@  Paladin : (29 June 2020 - 05:43 PM)

maybe New Mutants is too bad even for D+.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 June 2020 - 05:00 PM)

X-Men films are coming to Disney+ next month. But will they censor Hugh Jackman's butt?

@  -LittleAutob... : (29 June 2020 - 12:44 PM)


@  TheMightyMol... : (29 June 2020 - 11:59 AM)

Behold! Night Strike Galvatron!

@  Bass X0 : (29 June 2020 - 09:53 AM)

I will grant you a recolored body, and recolored troops to command.

@  Cybersnark : (29 June 2020 - 09:47 AM)

I don't want to be reissued. This body sucks, I wanna be updated.

@  Nevermore : (29 June 2020 - 09:43 AM)

I definitely don't intend to be reissued. Nobody would buy me.

@  Bass X0 : (29 June 2020 - 08:31 AM)

will anybody else attempt to be reissued?

@  wonko the sane? : (29 June 2020 - 07:51 AM)

*Gasp* Decepticons re-writing history to serve their own needs?!?!

@  Nevermore : (29 June 2020 - 05:48 AM)

The whole point of the DJD is that they're fanatical Megatron fanboys (especially Tarn) to the point of having their own headcanon taking priority of the actual canon, simply speaking.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 June 2020 - 04:01 AM)

They didn't know the war was over until later. And then they denied it anyway.

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The "New Subline Imprint" syndrome

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 07:23 AM

I assume most of you are by now familiar with the infamous "Tail End Of The Line" syndrome, where retailers stop ordering ongoing assortments from the current line because they're aware it's coming to a close and will be replaced by a brand new line (for example, "Titans Return" being succeeded by "Power of the Primes"). Not wanting to needlessly clog their shelves with products from a soon to be "dead" brand, these retailers instead opt to invest their money in the upcoming new line. This in turn makes any new figures that are only released as part of the final wave(s) of the old line exceedingly hard to find, and thus rare and expensive in the aftermarket.

However, the same phenomenon can also occur in the middle of an ongoing line, even in an ongoing assortment, if the line in question lasts long enough to feature one or more subline imprints. (For those who don't know the term, a "subline imprint" is a partial rebranding of an ongoing toyline, thereby seemingly "refreshing" it with a new look for the packaging and possibly also the introduction of a new gimmick, while still maintaining the larger overall branding. Examples are Armada's "Unicron Battles", Energon's "Powerlinx Battles", the 2007 "Transformers" movie toyline's "Allspark Power" and "Premium Series", or "Beast Hunters" for "Transformers: Prime".) Basically, "New Subline Imprint" syndrome is the little brother of "Tail End Of The Line" syndrome.

The first time I noticed this phenomenon was the 2015-onwards "Robots in Disguise" toyline. During the first year of its run, the line introduced its own version of the Mini-Cons. Those included, among other things, a Mini-Con single pack assortment and a "Mini-Con Deployers" assortment, both of them featuring multiple waves of product.

Then, for its second year, the RID line introduced a new subline imprint that put all its focus on the Mini-Cons, named "Mini-Con Weaponizers". This subline imprint dropped the "Deployers" assortment and replaced the Mini-Con single pack assortment with a new "Mini-Con Weaponizers" single pack assortment, featuring a new assortment number. However, the consequence of that was that waves 3 and 4 of the pre-"Weaponizers" Mini-Con single pack assortment, as well as the figure featured in wave 3 of the "Deployers" assortment (Crazybolt), were either never available in the United States at all, or were initially only available from online retailers, and later from discount chains such as Marshalls, T.J.Maxx and Kroger Marketplace many months later. In some other countries, the single pack Mini-Cons only appeared at retail long after their "Weaponizers" successors had already been released in those same countries.
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For its third year, the "Robots in Disguise" line introduced yet another subine imprint with an entirely new focus, "Combiner Force". Either because of this, or because the original single pack Mini-Cons had already been selling poorly in the first place, the single pack Weaponizers assortment, i.e. the main focus of the entire subline imprint, was never available at retail in the United States either!
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Edited by Nevermore, 07 March 2020 - 08:42 AM.

Big thanks to my dad for playing along with this visual recreation.

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Posted 07 March 2020 - 07:25 AM

Now something similar is happening again with the "Cyberverse" toyline: For its second year, the subline imprint was "Power of the Spark", whereas the third year saw the launch of yet another subline imprint, "Bumblebee: Cyberverse Adventures" (although some figures instead featured a "Battle for Cybertron" branding with the same overall packaging design).
However, one of the consequences of this was that waves of ongoing assortments were seemingly skipped at US retail, and some even worldwide. The second wave of "Power of the Spark"-branded Scout Class figures, which would have introduced a retooled Bumblebee, and presumably also packaging variants (with otherwise unchanged toys) of Ratchet and Megatron, was never released anywhere in the world according to my knowledge, with the assortment instead jumping straight ahead to the "Battle for Cybertron"-branded Dead End/Ramjet wave.
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Furthermore, the Ultra Class assortment's second "Power of the Spark"-branded wave, which introduces Prowl alongside packaging variants (with otherwise unchanged toys) of Optimus Prime and Slipstream, has been released in several countries (such as Canada, Russia and Germany), but not in the US (although Prowl is available online from Amazon as of this writing). Instead, the assortment jumped straight ahead to the "Battle for Cybertron"-branded Clobber/Hot Rod/Bumblebee wave.
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Online retailers such as Big Bad Toy Store, Entertainment Earth or ToyWiz never solicited these two Cyberverse waves either, thus leaving a gap in the ongoing wave numbering. Because of this, the exact composition of the Scout Class wave with the retooled Bumblebee is still only guesswork based on packaging stock photos that have surfaced.

Edited by Nevermore, 07 March 2020 - 11:01 AM.

Big thanks to my dad for playing along with this visual recreation.

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