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@  tigerhawk : (12 January 2021 - 12:10 PM)

My Super Collection Megatron always had two left legs and I just discovered my Thrilling 30 Crosscut has two right hips.

@  Nevermore : (11 January 2021 - 07:56 PM)

Fortunately, it's only Netflix Hound, so not really much of a loss here.

@  Nevermore : (11 January 2021 - 07:55 PM)

So it's been a while since I've had a misassembled Transformers toy.

@  Echowarrior : (11 January 2021 - 10:02 AM)

More Micromasters would be welcome.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 January 2021 - 06:15 AM)

Instructions unclear, have more sports cars.

@  tigerhawk : (11 January 2021 - 01:57 AM)

Or they could make the other Micromasters of the teams they half assed.

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 January 2021 - 11:20 PM)

There should be a box set of eight Stakeouts.

@  Bass X0 : (10 January 2021 - 08:27 PM)

There should be a box-set of Thrust, Dirge and Ramjet. But I'm not expecting it.

@  Nevermore : (10 January 2021 - 07:51 PM)

I hope there are re-releases this year!

@  tigerhawk : (10 January 2021 - 03:59 PM)

I hope there's rereleases of Earthrise Ramjet, Dirge and Ratchet next year.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 January 2021 - 07:51 AM)

Oh no, he was loved. I'd argue he could have had a better life physically, but he was loved. Deeply.

@  Telly : (08 January 2021 - 01:42 AM)

as long s/he gave love and was loved, it was a good life

@  Echowarrior : (07 January 2021 - 11:10 PM)

Poor puppy. Poor kid.

@  CORVUS : (07 January 2021 - 03:04 PM)

My condolences :(

@  wonko the sane? : (07 January 2021 - 10:45 AM)

So: My sisters dog just had a heart attack and died... while her 12 year old son was walking him. Welcome to 2021 everybody!

@  Dekafox : (04 January 2021 - 07:24 PM)

Except they're Deceptican'ts usually.

@  Devcon : (04 January 2021 - 05:17 PM)

Depending on which dub: Either Decepticons or Decepticans.

@  Bass X0 : (04 January 2021 - 05:03 PM)

Deception is the French word for disappointment. What does that make the Decepticons in France?

@  Echowarrior : (03 January 2021 - 11:29 PM)

We're just tiny little specks, about the size of Mickey Rooney.

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 January 2021 - 04:33 PM)

It's a great big universe, and we're all really puny.

@  Rycochet : (03 January 2021 - 01:30 PM)

That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, a sun that is the source of all our power

@  Rycochet : (03 January 2021 - 01:30 PM)

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving and revolving at nine hundred miles an hour.

@  TM2-Megatron : (02 January 2021 - 11:57 PM)

relative to the speed that it's swirling around the centre of the galaxy, its rotation is fairly slow

@  PlutoniumBoss : (02 January 2021 - 09:31 PM)

I'd like to make myself believe that planet Earth turns slowly.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 January 2021 - 07:21 PM)

The Earth moving gave us 2021.

@  ▲ndrusi : (02 January 2021 - 10:50 AM)

It does that.

@  tigerhawk : (02 January 2021 - 10:11 AM)

I think the Earth is moving.

@  Nevermore : (02 January 2021 - 06:35 AM)

Sunday evenings are awesome. Looking at the clock at 8 PM and thinking "I still have plenty of time before going to bed..."

@  Nevermore : (02 January 2021 - 06:33 AM)

Now I've been working permanent late shift for almost three years. Don't regret it one bit. One of the rare cases where the needs of the company overlap with my own preferences.

@  Nevermore : (02 January 2021 - 06:32 AM)

Before the permanent late shift was introduced three years ago (which I volunteered for as soon as the form became available), I always tended to plan my vacation for early shift weeks. Since the majority of the people in most departments prefer to work early shift and thus tended to plan their vacation for late shift weeks, there were usually enough slots available for me to get my request fulfilled.

@  TM2-Megatron : (01 January 2021 - 05:26 PM)

I was promoted last December, so this past year is my first with the company where I've been able to get whatever vacation I wanted. Instead of competing with 100 other people, there's now only 1 (out of 3 others who share my job) that's been in the building longer than me, and so has first dibs at weeks. It's pretty easy to work it out between ourselves before we give in our requests, though

@  TM2-Megatron : (01 January 2021 - 05:24 PM)

But there's also departments to consider, since we have a varieity of types of machines and not everyone is qualified to run everything. Altogether, there are a lot of ways you can get screwed

@  TM2-Megatron : (01 January 2021 - 05:21 PM)

So a few of the same rules, a few different ones. For regular employees, requests need to be in by January 15th. If they are, those are doled out based on seniority. You're only guaranteed 2 weeks in "prime time" (basically June, July, August). Anything submitted after January 15th is given out first come, first served based on availability

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (01 January 2021 - 02:39 PM)

So who said "Jumanji!"?

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 January 2021 - 08:20 AM)

I knew a woman at Target who was forced to use up her vacation time before she could qualify for maternity leave. Then they denied the leave because she technically hadn't been at work for two weeks beforehand.

@  Nevermore : (01 January 2021 - 04:21 AM)

Also, if you become sick during your vacation and you turn in a doctor's sick note, it means that you don't lose your vacation days, because according to the law, vacation is intended for recreation, not for recovery from sickness or injury.

@  Nevermore : (01 January 2021 - 04:00 AM)

Another priority is "vacation request for the next year turned in before the deadline". Like, you missed the deadline, you have to make do with what's left.

@  Nevermore : (01 January 2021 - 03:59 AM)

No, they prioritize vacation during school holidays for employees with school-age children. Also, only three of the six weeks during the summer holidays per employee so a larger number of employees can get their requests fulfilled.

@  TM2-Megatron : (31 December 2020 - 08:14 PM)

like, not company-wide, obviously, but by facility

@  TM2-Megatron : (31 December 2020 - 08:14 PM)

That's actually not bad at all for such a large company. Do they prioritize vacation by seniority?

@  Nevermore : (31 December 2020 - 08:11 PM)

In my nine years with Amazon, only one of my vacation requests (not counting requests for single days) has ever been denied (with an alternate option offered for a mere week later). It might have helped that I have always tended to plan my vacation against the grain.

@  Nevermore : (31 December 2020 - 08:06 PM)

We also have a legally guaranteed minimum of at least 24 vacation days per year, and the law mandates that the vacation should be granted in one stretch "unless urgent reasons on behalf of the company or the individual employee make it necessary to split up the vacation". The most common valid "urgent reason on behalf of the company" would be "multiple employees have requested their vacation days for the same period, so the employer has to organize everyone's vacation grants equally".

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 December 2020 - 02:50 PM)

Most places run with the bare minimum amount of staff they think they can get away with. So if one key person is out, they're in trouble. Hence, they don't like letting people take vacations.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (31 December 2020 - 10:35 AM)

Here in the US... you're honestly likely to get fired for taking vacation.

@  Nevermore : (31 December 2020 - 05:31 AM)

Here in Germany, employers are usually very eager to remind you to take all your vacation days.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 December 2020 - 04:55 PM)

My old job made it ridiculously obtuse just putting in a request for vacation, gave me a hard time for daring to use my PTO, but also gave me a hard time for NOT using my PTO. That they didn't want me to use anyway.

@  Otaku : (30 December 2020 - 03:57 PM)

@Tm_Silverclaw I'm assuming it is the kind of job where they get in trouble if you don't use your vacation time, but where it is (at best) inconvenient when you do.  Though there's always room for some, most, or all of management to just be jerks. ;)

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 December 2020 - 07:40 AM)

My old job got mad if you took vacation, then would get mad if you didnt.

@  TM2-Megatron : (28 December 2020 - 05:02 PM)

Have no choice but to be off, though. Because of COVID I've hardly taken any vacation all year, and they don't like us carrying over more than a few days (technically we're not supposed to carry any over, but our manager is kinda easygoing). So I had to burn through most of my 4 weeks vacation in Oct,Nov and Dec.

@  TM2-Megatron : (28 December 2020 - 05:00 PM)

I didn't really celebrate Christmas at all this year, as I live alone and can't work from home, and so I'm keeping my distance from family/friends

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Posted 01 February 2020 - 08:34 PM

I talked a little about it on the Allspark Discord, but it's totally wild that you guys put up with absolute horror stories from the Fun Pub people for so long. I've been attending TFNation the past three years - none of which was contemporary with any BotCon, otherwise I would've commented at the time - and the atmosphere is just EXTREMELY, unspeakably nice and homely, with no criseses in sight. How would it even get that bad in the first place AND maintain its official partnership is straight up beyond my mortal comprehension.

Edited by gearshift, 01 February 2020 - 08:35 PM.

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Posted 01 February 2020 - 09:27 PM

Like with everything there were mishaps along the way, but I was never treated poorly. I never witnessed anyone treated poorly at a Botcon. The only thing anyone ever complained about at the show itself, regarding the show itself was when a desired exclusive sold out.
I'd even argue most of the folks complaining on the FunPub years still enjoyed their time at the cons they went to.

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Posted 01 February 2020 - 09:47 PM

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 02:26 AM

Enjoyment of the experiences at any particular Funpub Botcon has precious little bearing on the various mistakes that Funpub made, and it doesn't invalidate the complaints.

I greatly enjoyed every Botcon I attended, but about 90% of that enjoyment came from hanging out with fellow Allsparkers.
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Posted 02 February 2020 - 04:07 AM

Anybody have pictures of my Miko cosplay?

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 07:10 AM

2) Re Hasbro waiting it out. FunPub could pay a relatively small fee and do the cheapest possible thing every few years to hold onto the trademark in perpetuity. Also, if the USPTO invalidates aspects of the Trademark (as opposed to it just expiring), that makes the Trademark weaker in the long-term, even if they manage to obtain it after FunPub theoretically let it lapse...which they likely won't for another few years, at minimum, since they just put in money for an appeal.



The question, of course, would be why FunPub would even want to keep it. Do they expect Hasbro to pay them big bucks to obtain the trademark? Otherwise it would be rather pointless to hold onto the trademark for years without doing anything useful with it.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 08:55 AM

When I saw mention of BotCon potentially returning, I just had to come back and post.


This is what I'd most like to know from people suggesting various possibilities for what this means:


・Considering the two major periods of BotCon being the 3H and FunPub eras, what would you consider to be an ideal future incarnation of BotCon?

Fully Hasbro run? Fan run? Run by an event company under license from Hasbro?


・Specifically, what do you consider to be the failings of the FunPub era that should be improved upon?

in spite of various complaints, it did continue for over a decade, which is more than can be said for many events.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 09:29 AM

Just wanted to say that the vast majority of the convention staff were amazing people. Really some of the best, kindest people I've dealt with, and most would do anything to help settle a complaint or problem anyone at the convention had and with which approached them. I greatly looked forward to seeing them again every convention, almost as much as seeing fellow fans. 

A bad egg really shouldn't spoil the dozen. Or taint anyone's view of the convention - especially those that never had a chance to attend and get to interact with the people running it. The actual people running it. 

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 10:52 AM

Never been to a Botcon.  Always wanted to.  Maybe now I can someday.  Meet some of you folks in person for once. :p

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 11:33 AM

Considering the two major periods of BotCon being the 3H and FunPub eras, what would you consider to be an ideal future incarnation of BotCon? Fully Hasbro run? Fan run? Run by an event company under license from Hasbro?

Thanks for dropping in, especially in such a constructive fashion. I'll endeavor to be as specific and constructive as I can, in turn.

I don't think Hasbro should be running their own conventions realistically. It's not their core competency. It's not what they're interested in.

Ideally it would be run by an event company that has ties to the fandom and ties with Hasbro. You don't want something that's just out to make a buck, but business considerations shouldn't be neglected either. A con that makes money is a con that can sustain itself.

Specifically, what do you consider to be the failings of the FunPub era that should be improved upon?

As someone who went to many 3H shows and every FP show, I think the there are several areas of improvement.

1) Big picture wise, FP at its core wanted to be a boutique toy company. Every aspect of its DNA was structured around this idea. Botcon from 2005-2016 existed largely in the service of this goal. It's telling that there was no real way to have the full con experience without purchasing a package with hundreds of dollars of toys. It was baffling to me that there was no full-experience pass experience for, say, $50-75 that would let you attend all events and all days that wasn't an adjunct to a toy pass.

Ideally the convention experience would be at the forefront. The guests, the gatherings, the dealers room, the workshops. Exclusives are nice but I personally skipped them many years. One or two strong offerings per year would have been ideal. Given the fan service in the main lines, I'd even be ok sharing an exclusive with SDCC or other conventions.

2) Professionalism. I wish this weren't an issue but it was. Cons did not always feel inclusive. Mistakes weren't owned. Criticisms weren't tolerated. It's ok if some fraction of your audience doesn't like a decision, it's not ok to go and argue with them that they SHOULD like it.

In any future iteration of Botcon, communications should be considered carefully, and perhaps handled by someone with some emotional distance from the con.

3) This is just a matter of personal preference, but I would seriously consider holding the convention at the same time every year and that the same location. I have to believe there are efficiencies be gleaned from building relationships with specific venues and it would make planning much easier. I always enjoyed SoCal based BotCons, as they tended to have the best guests. I do see the argument for some centrally located choices that are a not crazy drive for the more populated eastern/central corridor. Either way it'd be easier for me to plan my year if I expected that every late June I'd be in (say) Indiana.

(Not a failing per se, but room for improvement.)

4) More fan involvement. MSTF was always a blast. More like that! Block out a room and fill it with fan-run workshops and panels, with a low barrier to entry. Put a disclaimer in front of necessary. It's a pretty standard practice for conventions, and helps the attendees feel more like the con is for them.

Don't get me wrong, FP did many things right. It's the nature of the beast that you can do 100 things right and people will always remember the one thing that went wrong. But if you apologize, then genuinely try to do better, your audience will probably forgive you.


Edited by Jim S, 02 February 2020 - 11:34 AM.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 01:34 PM

I'll add that I'm probably not the only one who will never enjoy a new Botcon quite as much as I used to, because they're not new and I'm not eighteen and the brand isn't where it was when I started going. None of that means there's no point to the shows, and every show will be someone's first, but there's not really anything new you can do at this point. We've met the actors, we've seen the toys in advance, we've even gotten movie sneak previews and visited the Hasbro headquarters. For increasingly old and decrepit fans like myself, it really does end up being "how much do I enjoy this context I'm basically using to hang out with my friends?". FP's more relaxed schedule (combined with a decrease in feeling like I needed to go to every single panel) really did make the weekend more enjoyable for me, but "removing a mandatory buy-in of $400 for everyone whether they want the toys or not" would be a great move too.


Credit to FP for not constantly overextending themselves, by the way - they failed at things repeatedly and obviously never took any responsibility except at the end of a metaphorical gun, but for the most part, the things they intended to do got done with a minimum of last-minute panic. I know all Glen ever wanted to do was put on a legitimately great show for fans, but his boundless ambition was probably as much a hindrance in the final assessment as an advantage.


(And also the resale value of the BC stuff as Fun Pub's tenure went on really underscored how hard it is to come up with hundreds of dollars in toys every year that a) appeal to a lot of people but also b) aren't just going to be made by Hasbro the next year at this point in the brand's life.)


Also I can't emphasize enough what a good idea it would be not to hire a PR man whose primary skill is being incredibly thin-skinned and combative. So maybe don't put it in the hands of the kind of asshole who would think that was a good call.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 02:59 PM

A Botcon that doesn't exclude guests because of something they drew for a Japanese exclusive collector's line mini-comic would be nice, but I'm not naive enough to believe that's possible for any western convention any more

Edited by Sprocket, 02 February 2020 - 02:59 PM.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 03:20 PM

When I saw mention of BotCon potentially returning, I just had to come back and post.
This is what I'd most like to know from people suggesting various possibilities for what this means:
・Considering the two major periods of BotCon being the 3H and FunPub eras, what would you consider to be an ideal future incarnation of BotCon?
Fully Hasbro run? Fan run? Run by an event company under license from Hasbro?
・Specifically, what do you consider to be the failings of the FunPub era that should be improved upon?
in spite of various complaints, it did continue for over a decade, which is more than can be said for many events.

So. To me an ideal show is the sweet spot between 3H and FunPub.. FunPub went full stop and produced many great toys with many great stories. 3H was a smaller run with a tighter knit story. And then there's Hascon to look at.
Just by looking at Hascon, Hasbro really doesn't know how to put on a show for fans. They charged you $600 with no toys, a lame exclusive and early access to a TRU exclusive. They rented out a mega space and got Flo Rida and some NE Patriots show up .... Like what? Why?
I wouldn't hate the return of a $300-$400 box set that comes with the dinner, the free autographs, extra day, etc... I would say 6 figures between the whole show is good.. Even if it's like 3 at pre-reg and then 3 at show or something. At its height 3H offered 4 in a new year. FunPub usually offered 13-15 yeah? Custom class is a must, as well in my opinion.
But I would say the biggest detriment to a FunPub Botcon was that after $1000 in toys and travel. Dealers kinda got snubbed and fell by the wayside.
Fully fan-run without Hasbro involvement but using Hasbro toys is highly doubtful. So I think a perfect balance between Hasbro and a fan-run event company dedicated to it is the way to go.
I feel like between 3H and FunPub there was a lot of fan service: Script readings, fan interactive Facebook pages, even "the death of chocolate" was a very cool idea that suffered from problems in execution. But it's just stuff that Hasbro and the Transformers creative team wouldn't think about. They aren't really "down here" with us for crazy/awesome exclusives ideas or fan interaction.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 03:39 PM

Hascon wasnt a convention run for 30 year old Transformers manchildren of which I count myself among so dont get the wrong idea.

It was run primarily for children and it showed. The two I took had an AMAZING time and were sad it didnt return the next year.

You can argue they dont know how to successfully run a Convention but Im pretty sure they succeeded in what they wanted Hascon to represent.


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Posted 02 February 2020 - 03:44 PM

Good parts of Botcons Past:
- Meeting other Fans
- Exclusive Fiction
- Art and Video Rooms
- 2 or 3 special Exclusive Toys
- MST3K Panel
- Hasbro Preview Panel

Bad Parts of Botcons Past:
- Multi-hundred dollar Exclusive toy box sets plus another half-dozen or so exclusive toys sold separately
- Not being close enough to me often enough.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 04:39 PM

I had a great time at Hascon. Plenty of time speaking with Susan Blu. A NERF room. Meeting Stan Lee. The only thing I felt it was missing was a vendor room, and I get those from local toy shows. And okay, never thought I would go to a Flo Rida show but it was very entertaining! If Hasbro wanted to use the same competency on a TF-focused event, hell yeah. Seriously let's keep the NERF room.


The national TF convention absolutely should change locations annually. A huge part of the appeal for me of cons is getting to see different places. But I understand in movie years it's gotta be West Coast Forever.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 08:51 PM

The only serious issue I had with FunPub was how one year, I ordered a T-shirt as part of my non-attendee package, and didn't get one. The matter was still resolved to my satisfaction, but still, a heads-up would've been welcome, a note along the lines of "We're sorry, but the T-shirts sold out. Please contact us at this phone number to see about a refund or an alternative" or something similar.

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Posted 02 February 2020 - 11:50 PM

Not having had the opportunity to go to one myself, I am curious about the recurring notion here that stuff made for BotCon being available from Hasbro the following year.

In particular, what was preferable:

- Original convention-exclusive characters (like Apelinq and Shokaract)

- This character you know, only now they're ____ (like BM Tigatron and Arcee, or most of the last several years of the event)

- A combination of the two (like the year they had BM Cyclonus, CATscan, Glyph, and Tap-Out)?

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 12:08 AM

A bad egg really shouldn't spoil the dozen. Or taint anyone's view of the convention - especially those that never had a chance to attend and get to interact with the people running it. The actual people running it. 

When the bad eggs include the big boss and the major outward face, its a bit more difficult to hand wave the odor away.

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 01:03 AM

As nice as the toys were, it essentially dominated the entire convention and club, and got even more ridiculous near the end.


Wanna go? Pay a yearly-increasing 3-digit number  for an EXCLUSIVE box set of TOYS!

(or pay a smaller THREE-DIGIT number with no toys just for the privilege of being in the presence of those who are more TRUE FANS then you will ever be, if you are one at all!) 

Attend in person? Well here is an EXCLUSIVE TOY!


Now that you're out of one line , get in this other line so you can listen to our Supreme Leader tell you about our At-Show EXCLUSIVE TOYS! (Note: the line will not move forward until Supreme Leader is finished.)


And one of our EXCLUSIVE TOYS is a Troop builder set so of course you'll need more than one! And OF COURSE we made less of this than ANYTHING ELSE! Oh, that guy is buying more than the posted limit? We can tell he is a Super-Mega fan, so limits don't apply to him.


Now, obviously we're in the first "Exclusive Early Super-Fan" day of the convention, know as 'Thursday' to the non-TF fan degenerates. That means you're attending our "Customizing Class" which is not a class in turning an existing into a new idea, but an  EXCLUSIVE gathering of ELITE fans to spend grateful hours of thankful labor to breath exquisite life into a super-limited EXCLUSIVE TOY! Forever reminding others that your Botcon 20XX collection is COMPLETE and theirs isn't.


Sadly, we expect you to wait until Saturday for us to bless you with the knowledge of what EXCLUSIVE TOY you will pay for to get SIX pamphlets a year and  EXCLUSIVE ACCESS to our EXCLUSIVELY 1990's store and infrequently-updated and equally 90's website where you can learn about when you can pre-purchase our EXCLUSIVE PAIR OF TOYS!


Then Sunday we reveal our EXCLUSIVE subscription SERVICE offerings of six EXCLUSIVE TOYS plus mention a SEVENTH EXCLUSIVE TOY that you will generously receive for nobally pre-purchasing the entire set! We'll expect you to honorably refrain from revealing the identity of such blessings upon their arrival, lest you be shunned by  our  illustrious selves and your distinguished peers up until the time for the next year's holy pilgrimage where you can compensate for your dereliction with our newest form of tribute.


Only 100 of the Truest, Loyal, Dedicated fans of exquisitely-colored robot toys will prove their worth above all other Transformer fans by selflessly sacrificing ANOTHER pre-determined THREE-DIGIT number to have bestowed upon them: The Golden Ticket! For shouldering THE tremendous responsibility of being the first ones to BREACH the panel room and take STAND to sit in the FRONT rows, these Elitist of THE ELITE shall be presented with....


an  EXCLUSIVE TOY! In addition with the GOD-GIVEN ability to purchase further numbers of the  EXCLUSIVE TOYS outside of the limits of the less worthy.


What's this? Inconceivable news doubting our infallibility?! With QUICKNESS, unleash pictures of our EXCLUSIVE TOYS in various of production or reveals to placate the masses and divert undesirable attention to our methods and commitments!

"Some people collect other characters like Jazz or Hot Shot and its encouraged, but I stockpile Cybertron Crosswises and that makes ME the strange one."

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