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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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#41 Walky

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:23 AM

Yeah, I wish I'd voted for Devastator in retrospect. He's usually been on my ballots.

 

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:26 AM

But that would be unethical!



#43 Walky

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:58 AM

let me tell you about how much i care about the integrity of this particular poll 



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:32 AM

(You can just open the link incognito if you're lazy.)

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 02:08 AM

Vote the Hauler/Hot Shot ticket for a more interesting future!

 

Everybody, give the 1984 vote to the obscure Hauler, and let's see what Hasbro's reaction is.

 

As for the Siege toy vote, eh, vote whichever you want. Though, Hot Shot seems the most interesting choice.

 

 

EDIT: Darn it, Tindalos! Stop reading my mind! :wtf 

 

Sign me up for the Hauler/Hot Shot ticket protest vote. It is legitimately dreary that this is what things have come to.

Before I even clicked this thread I was thinking Hot Shot (or Galaxy Upgrade Optimus).

 

It seems a bit unfair to me that Refraktor and the 3-pack are separate votes, but then again the Constructicons and Devastator are all separate votes.



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 02:45 AM

VOTE TODAY! What do you REALLY want: MORE 1984? or MORE MORE 1984?

 

(seriously, I went with Ravage, because BW, UK comics and MTMTE. And Sixgun just 'cause I love him.)

 

(also if we end up with a Hauler toy can he please please please be anything but Constructicon green or Grapple orange? Yellow, white, red, blue, forest green, ANYTHING PLZ)


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Robert is made to withstand plenty of play, and transforms from car to robot! Go, Robert, go!

Why will we solve after Robert grasps the abysmal winter's ulcer? He may change rural tailors, do you join them? The films, tapes, and spoons are all good and fresh.

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 03:04 AM

Voted for Hauler and Barricade (movies represent!), but if Hauler hadn't been an option I'd have gone for Devastator.


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 06:37 AM

I voted for Hauler and Jetfire. Who knows, maybe this will lead to Hauler getting a toy.

Chances of that seem high already with ER Grapple and the recent exclusives we've been getting in the line prior. :)

I have to keep reminding myself that the Earthrise toy we've seen is orange and not light green. A lot of season 2 stuff just slides right off my mind.

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 06:39 AM

 

Everyone knows that Optimus Prime laid down his very Spark to defend Megatron

:doh  :D

Issue #24, Afterdeath!

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:03 AM

I love that the phrasing pretty much lines up "in honor of the 35th anniversary" with "1984 and 1984-with-knees, aka 2019", meaning the 35th anniversary hall of fame, by design, ignores the other 33 years (sure, i guess Hot Shot is the out).

Maybe they wanted to keep people from voting in Beast Wars and Beyond characters of actual interest. But yeesh, the previous brand team didn't go to these lengths, even with the whole Erector business.

Maybe this'll get us a Selects Earthrise Hauler.


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 09:10 AM

everyone: i'm voting hot shot for best toy because he's the only one in siege that was free from 1984 hell

 

galaxy upgrade prime: am i a joke to you?


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 09:18 AM

I'd follow that drool to the ends of the earth.



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#53 Tindalos

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 09:31 AM

everyone: i'm voting hot shot for best toy because he's the only one in siege that was free from 1984 hell

 

galaxy upgrade prime: am i a joke to you?

 

I would have voted for him, as I love everything about that figure.

But it's a tactical Hot Shot vote.



#54 NightViper

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 10:51 AM

A vote for Optimus can be seen as a vote for any Optimus.

A vote for Hot Shot is nearly exclusively a vote for Unicron Trilogy.

That's how I decided between those two anyway.



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 10:54 AM

BTW, to the new thread title, I'm trying to do my part! :D







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Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:04 PM

Let's keep this haul going.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:12 PM

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lines by Ikkad! (Plus a background from Galaxies #1)

 

also, whoever changed the thread title again - show yourself, coward, so we can keel-haul you



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 12:48 PM

#HaulAndVotes :) 



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:49 PM

#HaulerOfFame


Well, Art is Art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now you tell me what you know.

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 06:19 PM

These puns are awful. Mods please step in and call a hault to it.


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Robert is made to withstand plenty of play, and transforms from car to robot! Go, Robert, go!

Why will we solve after Robert grasps the abysmal winter's ulcer? He may change rural tailors, do you join them? The films, tapes, and spoons are all good and fresh.



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