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@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Generations Nightbeat never really scratched that itch sadly; he looked okay, but his transformation was fiddly, his robot mode had far too many bits and pieces flopping around unsecured, and his chest dragged along the surface in var mode. =/

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:57 AM)

I second wishing that we got a Deluxe Nightbeat from TR, mostly because as a kid he was second-in-command to my old Powermaster Optimus for the longest time. =P

@  tigerhawk : (08 May 2021 - 05:41 AM)

Wipe Out and Wilder it coulda been: Wipe Out is down in the dumps because the Scramble City Trypticon was destroyed and left him a drifting to the point he arrives in Legends World, he finds Wilder and both go on a crime spree subverted by their realisation neither gets any joy from it until they stop a violent crook together and become anti heroes. (Bass XO beat me!)

@  Bass X0 : (08 May 2021 - 05:39 AM)

Yes, Nightbeat and Siren would have been easy remolds of Chromedome - just give them new chests and each other's Titan Master heads. Fangry and Squeezeplay would be remolded from Twinferno with their own Titan Master heads. And Horri-Bull would have been remolded from Wolfwire.

@  Rycochet : (07 May 2021 - 05:10 PM)

Surprised we didn't get a full size retool from the monsterbot mold. I'd rather have a CW Ironhide retool though, we need a van Wilder.

@  tigerhawk : (07 May 2021 - 04:19 PM)

I just noticed Wilder was the only omission from Takara Legends.

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 06:01 AM)

Even more weirdly, it was the early shift where some people had their regular day off for the week, while the late shift was supposed to have full attendance (not counting sick days, vacations and overtime reduction).

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 01:15 AM)

The weirdest part was that there was a steady influx of voters during the early shift, while hardly anyone showed up during the late shift.

@  Nevermore : (07 May 2021 - 01:14 AM)

Wow, that was a long day. But it's over, and I finally got some sleep. Not particularly happy with the outcome, but then again, my candidates both admit they didn't really campaign that much.

@  Echowarrior : (06 May 2021 - 08:56 PM)

Best of luck, Nevermore.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 May 2021 - 10:18 AM)

Best of luck man.

@  electricidad : (05 May 2021 - 03:22 PM)

GOOD LUCK, NEVERMORE!

@  Nevermore : (05 May 2021 - 03:14 PM)

The election committee whose chairman I am has been preparing this election since February. There's no real gain for me either way, so I don't care that much for the outcome, but it's going to be a stressful day for me either way.

@  Nevermore : (05 May 2021 - 03:13 PM)

Wish me luck. Tomorrow is this year's supervisory board election at my workplace, and I'm the guy in charge of organizing the election.

@  tigerhawk : (05 May 2021 - 01:30 PM)

I have two Overlords one was faulty with a melted foot and they never took it back but replaced it, I just checked the guns, both the handles seem to be turning white.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 May 2021 - 07:38 PM)

REVELATION! Towering war machines more durable than nerd!

@  Telly : (04 May 2021 - 07:18 PM)

pansy. my trypticon AND scorponok took a header from 4 feet up and only had parts pop off that were easily reattached. guess 'cons are tougher...

@  tigerhawk : (04 May 2021 - 04:03 PM)

My TR Perceptor fell and the titan master peg in the leg snapped off. Fortunately I have the Legends one.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 May 2021 - 08:50 PM)

It's a fairly well known fact that "it's a wonderful life" only became popular after it dropped into the public domain. So, yeah, they probably did.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (02 May 2021 - 08:29 PM)

I read an interesting observation on Twitter. If it is the natural course of a human to grow into Grandpa Abe yelling at a cloud, but nostalgia also yields rose-tinted glasses for the likes of one's youth, then did Greatest Generation adults bemoan how Baby Boomer children loved box office flops such as The Wizard of Oz and It's a Wonderful Life?

@  Steevy Maximus : (02 May 2021 - 09:54 AM)

You’re traveling down a rabbit hole I dare not follow

@  Otaku : (02 May 2021 - 09:26 AM)

At the same time, with my almost non-existent knowledge of Japanese and how oddly some things translate, seeing "Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges" made me wonder if that would make it "JoJoJo"... which now has my brain terrified of a weird Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo/Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Crossover. @[email protected]

@  Otaku : (02 May 2021 - 09:24 AM)

It is always weird when things align.  This talk of Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges in the SquawkBox reminded me of King Gorgeous Gorge on the FoxBox.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 May 2021 - 08:52 PM)

Nice

@  Nevermore : (01 May 2021 - 09:03 AM)

I got one even better: After that character by the name of Gorgeous Giorgios dies in a gorge, they name that whole area after him: The Gorgeous Giorgios Gorges.

@  tigerhawk : (30 April 2021 - 01:56 AM)

Paint apps did slide notably during TR, wave one's Titan Masters had detail but wave 2 onwards was absent of them. Wave 5's Ramhorn, Dreadnaut, Scorchfire and Aimless had detail but Murk and Hazard didn't, can't speak for Flameout as I got Legends Twintwist and Slugslinger.

@  kizudarake : (29 April 2021 - 04:50 PM)

Anyone here got any g1 jet fire parts for sale?

@  wonko the sane? : (29 April 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Other than a few overly tight joints, the paints apps are my single complaint about the generations line.

@  tigerhawk : (29 April 2021 - 02:25 PM)

I just saw Legends Leo Prime now I wish Titans Return Alpha Trion had a few more paint apps for ship mode.

@  walruslaw : (28 April 2021 - 09:33 PM)

dagrimbo

@  CORVUS : (27 April 2021 - 08:11 PM)

Indeed.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (27 April 2021 - 04:59 PM)

CORVUS: considering that reply, I'm pretty sure this was just another instance of Bass posting poorly-defined drivel as if it were profound.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2021 - 04:24 PM)

Given the last year and a half or so, is it any surprise?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2021 - 04:12 PM)

People are snapping already it seems.

@  Kaon : (27 April 2021 - 12:15 PM)

I like the Shattered Glass Megatron's alt mode

@  CORVUS : (26 April 2021 - 07:30 PM)

I'd like to know what society he's talking about, and what qualifies as "nothing", TBH.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 April 2021 - 05:09 PM)

I don't see the point in such a poorly defined "everyone is terrible" statement. He's not complaining about any specific people or specific problems.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 April 2021 - 05:06 PM)

I do not see anything about Bass's comment that felt a need for you to attack him.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 April 2021 - 04:35 PM)

Bass: does that "everyone" include yourself or are you just trying to act like you're better than everybody without actually proving anything?

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2021 - 04:10 PM)

Mostly it's "oh, don't say that right now" and "better learn when to duck".

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2021 - 04:05 PM)

There's something to be said about society when everyones just an inch away from snapping over nothing.

@  Steevy Maximus : (26 April 2021 - 02:17 PM)

WalMart is a cruel mistress. Today she runneth over...tommorrow, she'll be barren as a desert.

@  -LittleAutob... : (26 April 2021 - 12:21 PM)

I love Wal-mart now- They have way more Transformers figures than Target- last night I came home with a WFC Authentic Wheeljack even though I was torn between wanting TFP Arcee and TF: The Movie Blurr, two figures I have never ever seen before-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 April 2021 - 10:29 AM)

Spelling intended lol

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 April 2021 - 10:29 AM)

Curious Geogore

@  NotVeryKnightly : (25 April 2021 - 07:54 AM)

"My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everybody calls me Giorgio"

@  MEDdMI : (25 April 2021 - 07:52 AM)

New JoJo villain, GoGio

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 April 2021 - 07:52 AM)

Is this a Jojo?

@  Nevermore : (25 April 2021 - 06:49 AM)

Now I suddenly have a character with the name "Gorgeous Georgios" in mind.


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#41 Sprocket

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:48 PM

Main difference between Spider-Man and Transformers is that Transformers had three reboots that really lent the franchise to be a legacy property, but now we're back to the same guys over and over.

 

It's like how there's a bunch of people who didn't care for the return of Hal Jordan or Barry Allen: they liked the new guys.

 

I feel like some of this frustration would be alleviated if Cyberverse's toyline got the same Deluxe/Voyager/Leader treatment with all the characters instead of just a selection of them, but ymmv


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:49 PM

*double-checks the EarthRise Optimus pictures*

 

...damn it, they've put his feet on backwards *again*?! The curse of Dreamwave strikes once more :rolleyes


Edited by Lightbright, 01 October 2019 - 12:51 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:52 PM

I'd be more excited for Ironworks but that is a tiny, tiny base, and to make substantial enough bases without buying multiples of the same guy you'd need at least six to eight of these, but you know we'll only get three, like the Weaponizers.

 

Also I kinda wish we got Fasttrack to finish the basebot helpers off.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:52 PM

*double-checks the EarthRise Optimus pictures*

 

...damn it, they've put his feet on backwards *again*?! The curse of Dreamwave strikes once more :rolleyes

 

........nooooooooooooooooooo



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:52 PM

 

IGN has previewed a few of the figures from the Siege sequel, now apparently subtitled EarthRise.

 

I can think of nothing that says "War for Cybertron" less.

But ignoring that, this looks like a line I'll be very interested in. Especially if they've finally stopped using that awful weathering.

 


once again Hasbro proves they are incapable of moving past 1987.

 

 

Ironworks handily proves this wrong.

 

 

It's the Autobots & Decepticons. They're warring *for* Cybertron, just not every battle is *on* Cybertron.

 

Ironworks.... "exception proves the rule"? The bulk and focus of the line is pre-1987. Ironworks, patrols, etc are stepping out of that line, but it's not proving the sentiment of that view wrong.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:52 PM

anyway i am SUPER excited for Extremely Earth Vehicle-y Transformers: EarthRise to have Titan Class Giant Metal Scorpion



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:53 PM

Yeah, I'm really excited at the prospect a new Hoist and Trailbreaker.

 

The T30 versions, despite the MTMTE-ness of their designs, are really not that great. I almost prefer using Movie Hoist and CW Trailbreaker, but I'd really like something a little closer to their G1 designs at the large end of deluxe that this line might deliver.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:53 PM

While I'm underwhelmed by this, particularly by Optimus, it at least makes some sense.

 

Think about it, we may be getting Optimus every series now, but each time he's been something different than that iconic G1 form.

  • Siege Voyager - G1 robot, Cybertron vehicle, no trailer
  • Siege Leader - Galaxy Convoy robot and combiner
  • PotP Leader - Orion Pax that combines with trailer to form Optimus
  • TR Leader - Power Master Optimus that combines with his trailer
  • TR Voyager - G2 Laser Prime homage
  • CW Voyager - Combiner without a trailer

 

This is the first time a mass release Optimus looks to do the same things the original toy / cartoon character did.  G1 Optimus Prime with Command Deck / Battle Station trailer.

 

While as boring as that is, it's really something Hasbro and Takara will probably striving to do - to recreate that Optimus that first landed on Earth.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:54 PM

it's EXACTLY the point; both the writers and the designers are too afraid of moving out of the comfort zone.
 
Spidey can only ever be a single broke college kid & Optimus Prime can only ever be a Freightliner FL86- WITH trailer or else fans riot.


While Peter's economic situation definitely gets setbacks, I think he's been a working-age adult rather than a kid for while now. Like, just looking up jobs he's had, he became an editor in 2017.

But also
 

What's that, kids born AFTER the eighties??? You don't exist! This is OUR spot!!!


You were pretty specific that the practice of making character look the same was about age brackets, which I find to be the biggest sticking point. I doubt that every cartoon or video game Spider-Man who looks like the Ditko design was because Marvel made those to cater to people who read comics in the '60s. Or really, "Spider-Man" can be substituted with any IP older than Transformers that's done the same across a large number of iterations.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:54 PM

it was very kind of hasbro to prepaint optimus prime's eyes yellow for me 



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:57 PM

I'd be more excited for Ironworks but that is a tiny, tiny base, and to make substantial enough bases without buying multiples of the same guy you'd need at least six to eight of these, but you know we'll only get three, like the Weaponizers.

 

Also I kinda wish we got Fasttrack to finish the basebot helpers off.

 

Fasttrack is definitely missed... hopefully he does appear... whatever year they make a Titan Scorponok... "EarthRise" doesn't seem the right year for that, but then what for this year's titan? Countdown-base-colored Guardian robot re-use of Omega?

 

Fingers crossed Airwave, Hothouse, and Greasepit show up as 1-per wave. And perhaps Groundshaker & Skyhopper could be voyagers?(by other names?) Or even a leader for Grondshaker, would that be the leader class "armored car"?



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:59 PM

Grapple looks good, but the problem with just doing their G1 earth designs is that I prefer the G1 toy I already have. Grapple isn't even fragile like some of them. A Siege Grapple might have had a different style.

That said, big truck man good. Hoping for a Bulkhead.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:59 PM

Soundwave's case of Yellow Eye is contagious! Get them to quarantine before it spreads!

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:04 PM

I'm wondering what a base made out of multiple base guys would look like. Not just individual bases connected by ramps, all the pieces mixed and spread out between them. I liked being able to use the weaponizers in different configurations and I think these guys will seem pretty boring if all they can do is form the one specific base mode.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:06 PM

Soundwave's case of Yellow Eye is contagious! Get them to quarantine before it spreads!


I think it's a step up in Prime's case since he usually has blue eyes framed by a blue helmet, while Soundwave's visor actually sticks out in red.

I'm not sure if this is implying that Optimus should also have red eyes.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:09 PM

Eh.

There are LOADS of non-G1 TF toys out and coming out if you look outside the main Generations line. Botbots. Rescue Bots. Cyberverse. Studio Series. Lots of stuff.

Yes G1 is a bit too 1984 to 1986 at times,

BUT:

1) We've gotten a good stretch outside that recently: We've gotten pretty near ALL 1987 updated. We've gotten a large portion, probably a majority, of 1988 updated. We've gotten way more 1989-1990 than I would ever have expected. Micromasters! Ironworks!

2) Even inside the lines they've gone super obscure and done all three Powerdashers and Reflector, Scrounge, Barricade, Rung, Brunt, Sixgun, Cog, Impactor, all the Female Autobots, Alpha Trion, Sentinel Prime. We've actually in the last 5 years or so gone WAY outside the "usual suspects" box a lot.

3) If they didn't keep making honest to god improvements it'd be super easy to skip things. I LOVE the old Generations Grappel. He's so Diaclone feeling to me... but damn if that isn't an equally great G1 Cartoon inspired version. The IDW Springer is one of the best TF toys ever, but the WFC one is perfect and entirely different in the Sunbow style. This Earthrise Prime looks Better than the one on my shelf and Better than the WFC ones I've skipped. I can't fault them as much if they are constantly topping themselves...

-ZacWilliam, that's not to say I wouldn't like more new characters (Gimmie) and more Beast Wars revisitations if they can improve them (A tough thing in a lot of cases) but I also think some folks are overstating or ignoring facets of what we have now, which is often pretty great. IMHO of course, ymmv and that's fine.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:15 PM

anyway i am SUPER excited for Extremely Earth Vehicle-y Transformers: EarthRise to have Titan Class Giant Metal Scorpion

 

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:18 PM

 

 

Studio Series is incalculably more enjoyable to me than Siege because that line does very interesting things with its designs and transformations.


Studio Series is the same approach of "make this look like it used to". Actually even more so than possibly any line besides Masterpiece.
 

 

Yeah, uh, like, Studio Series is even more Doing Old Designs Again than Stege, because Stege sometimes pretends (badly) it makes a nonEarthCar or whatever.  Studio Series is what Stege is being accused of, but just from a more recent source material.  

 

 

look, studio series gave us ze little one, that makes it a league better than stege


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:28 PM

I mean, okay, if we're moving the goalposts from "what has new designs" to "it has a character in it that I like," then, sure, EarthRise wins because Big Daddy???  



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:33 PM

I like the idea of a little drop-base for exploration (the theme I'm giving my Omega/Jetfire future setup). It also fits well with the drill and hovership weaponizers I have to those two. It'll work great with the toyhax rocketbase conversion set.



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