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@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:34 AM)

I'd also like to take the opportunity to say I despise Ebay for showing the list prices in US money.


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#21 B-Fox

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:12 PM

Hasbro:  G1  >>> Whatever It Is You Actually Want From Transformers Toys That Is Still Unclear. Whatever The Current Comic or Current Cartoon Series Is I Guess? I Dunno You Just Seem Contrarian For The Sake Of It  


MAH GEEWUN/MAH EYEDEEDUBBYA GOSPEL COMICS. The new eternal struggle

 


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:15 PM

I look at that Prime and that Grapple and just can't help but lament that this is what the original Classics toys from 2006 should have been like in the first place (knowing full well that the Hasbro team of that era would have never felt the same way), and that if they had, then we could now be getting something more innovative.

 

Basically, it feels like if the Classics toys had recreated the original character designs instead of making updated versions then the current toys wouldn't have to keep going back trying to recreate what the Classics toys opted not to do.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:15 PM

A perfunctory wiki check says that's Trip-Up with Big Daddy... because the press release didn't seem to name either Micromaster for some reason.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:18 PM

I'll bite on that Optimus. I've passed on one Deluxe/Mega sized Optimus after the next, waiting for one that really sang to me. This looks like it.

 

BIG DADDY

BIG DADDY

TALKIN' MICRO BOTS, 

THIS LINE'S GOT 'EM

 

Grapple? Yes! I definitely need a (*counts*... G1, HfD, MP, 3P tiny version...) 5th version of Grapple. No, I'm serious.

 

BIG DADDY

BIG DADDY

BIG DADDY DRIVE ME OUT OF MY MIND

HOW COULD I LEAVE SIEGE BEHIND???


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Robert is made to withstand plenty of play, and transforms from car to robot! Go, Robert, go!

Why will we solve after Robert grasps the abysmal winter's ulcer? He may change rural tailors, do you join them? The films, tapes, and spoons are all good and fresh.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:18 PM

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:18 PM



 



once again Hasbro proves they are incapable of moving past 1987.

 

more and more I consider quitting.

 

I don't understand this sentiment.  Comparing Siege to G1 is no different than saying Justice League (2001) is the same thing as Superfriends.  Is it because it's the same characters with recognizable designs?  Do you want Batman to dress up like a bird?  Anyway, I respect your opinion, I just don't get what you want.  I wish they would do more of a Cybertron-based story, but no matter what, Earth is going to factor in eventually.

 

 

I want creativity. I want originality. I want a line that seems uniquely FUN on its own.

 

Studio Series is incalculably more enjoyable to me than Siege because that line does very interesting things with its designs and transformations.

 

Remember how each line actually had different-looking Optimuses or Bumblebees or Starscreams or Megatrons before they just gave up and settled on "Ever-green" design templates?

 

What i keep getting is lines where the central idea seems to be reliving the opening credits of 1984 over and over and over again, each time with slightly different movement points or maybe a different sort of paint. "Hey, remember liking this when you were a kid?! Like it again by giving us your money! What's that, kids born AFTER the eighties??? You don't exist! This is OUR spot!!!"


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:19 PM

Basically, it feels like if the Classics toys had recreated the original character designs instead of making updated versions then the current toys wouldn't have to keep going back trying to recreate what the Classics toys opted not to do.


I'm not sure what you mean. I don't think any toy company's policy has ever been "we won't make something that looks like this because we already did it more than a decade ago". It's not like Hasbro stopped making movie-accurate Star Wars toys or whatever.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:22 PM

IGN has previewed a few of the figures from the Siege sequel, now apparently subtitled EarthRise.

 

I can think of nothing that says "War for Cybertron" less.

But ignoring that, this looks like a line I'll be very interested in. Especially if they've finally stopped using that awful weathering.

 


once again Hasbro proves they are incapable of moving past 1987.

 

 

Ironworks handily proves this wrong.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:24 PM

I've made peace with the fact that Generations has become Geewun forever with post-G1 maybe getting a bone thrown to it once in awhile but for the love of all that is holy at least update the designs instead of trying to make everything look like the Sunbow character model or original toy FFS.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:25 PM

Studio Series is incalculably more enjoyable to me than Siege because that line does very interesting things with its designs and transformations.


Studio Series is the same approach of "make this look like it used to". Actually even more so than possibly any line besides Masterpiece.

What i keep getting is lines where the central idea seems to be reliving the opening credits of 1984 over and over and over again, each time with slightly different movement points or maybe a different sort of paint. "Hey, remember liking this when you were a kid?! Like it again by giving us your money! What's that, kids born AFTER the eighties??? You don't exist! This is OUR spot!!!"


While Hasbro's press releases might lean on nostalgia, I doubt that it's the only factor,considering how long-running brands work. Does every red and blue Spider-Man make you accuse Marvel of being incapable of going past 1962?

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:27 PM

I'll keep buying Micromasters and Ironworks is a cool twist.  Grapple looks somewhat more satisfying than obviously-a-fire-truck Grappel.  Really not interested in yet another G1ish Optimus.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:30 PM

Every year of WFC is an all new theme.
2021 is the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.
I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment but let me have this.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:33 PM

 

Studio Series is incalculably more enjoyable to me than Siege because that line does very interesting things with its designs and transformations.


Studio Series is the same approach of "make this look like it used to". Actually even more so than possibly any line besides Masterpiece.
 

 

Yeah, uh, like, Studio Series is even more Doing Old Designs Again than Stege, because Stege sometimes pretends (badly) it makes a nonEarthCar or whatever.  Studio Series is what Stege is being accused of, but just from a more recent source material.  



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:35 PM

Grapple is a must, fixes all my problems with the RTS one, Scales too large in robot mode, no head harness, combersome arm hook and black helmet.

 

Hooray for Micromaster bases, I hope we get a lot of them.

 

I am Very Lukewarm on Prime, I mean I like the trailer and all, but we just got a nearly identical one in Siege.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:35 PM

Every year of WFC is an all new theme.
2021 is the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.
I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment but let me have this.

 

Oh man, I hadn't considered that.  I would give anything for an updated Transmetal Megatron and BW Silverbolt!



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:36 PM

I will say -- now that they've got this out of their/our system, I hope next time we see Grapple he'll look something like this: 

 

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Robert is made to withstand plenty of play, and transforms from car to robot! Go, Robert, go!

Why will we solve after Robert grasps the abysmal winter's ulcer? He may change rural tailors, do you join them? The films, tapes, and spoons are all good and fresh.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:37 PM

 

What i keep getting is lines where the central idea seems to be reliving the opening credits of 1984 over and over and over again, each time with slightly different movement points or maybe a different sort of paint. "Hey, remember liking this when you were a kid?! Like it again by giving us your money! What's that, kids born AFTER the eighties??? You don't exist! This is OUR spot!!!"


While Hasbro's press releases might lean on nostalgia, I doubt that it's the only factor,considering how long-running brands work. Does every red and blue Spider-Man make you accuse Marvel of being incapable of going past 1962?

 

 

did Peter Parker still sell his wife to the devil because the writers were too lazy to figure out how to write a happily married superhero?


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:39 PM

That's not even equivalent since this was about character designs and not plot twists.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:42 PM

Hmm, I like those more than I thought I would.

 

God, and we're getting a Hoist. And therefore maybe a CHUG Trailbreaker that isn't awful!

 

I am actually a bit surprised. I thought we'd get another year of WFC, then an Earth based series tbh.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:46 PM



That's not even equivalent since this was about character designs and not plot twists.

 

it's EXACTLY the point; both the writers and the designers are too afraid of moving out of the comfort zone.

 

Spidey can only ever be a single broke college kid & Optimus Prime can only ever be a Freightliner FL86- WITH trailer or else fans riot.


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