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@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.


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#1 Confuzor

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:22 AM

IGN has previewed a few of the figures from the Siege sequel, now apparently subtitled EarthRise.

https://www.ign.com/...g-optimus-prime

Gotta be honest, the presence of such a hardcore G1 Optimus really makes me wonder what the point of Voyager Siege Prime was. Also I really hope we do see a Cybertron mode Bumblebee eventually, but seeing as those recent leaks are looking to be true, I'm doubting it.

Edited by Confuzor, 01 October 2019 - 11:25 AM.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:26 AM

there is a big daddy, everything else is details

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:26 AM

Yes.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:31 AM

Ironworks is unexpected and great. Grapple's claw is wonderful. Optimus looks good, even given the limits to that Combat Deck.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:37 AM

I'm a little bummed that we're already done with space vehicles. I could have used more of those.

Ever since we learned that the Ruckley comics tie into the Netflix show, I've figured that both the comics and the Siege toyline were prequel/teaser/filler for that new show; like how the 07 movie got a prequel comic that was really only interesting when it was on Cybertron. Now we're on Earth already. I wonder whether some of EarthRise will be the Netflix cast.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:38 AM

once again Hasbro proves they are incapable of moving past 1987.

 

more and more I consider quitting.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:38 AM

I'm pleasantly surprised by Ironworks; looking forward to linking him up with the Siege Weaponizers for some wild and outlandish base modes :)



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:39 AM

Dull as it may be, if this line actually pulls off "Masterpiece, except fun", I might just bite.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:44 AM

once again Hasbro proves they are incapable of moving past 1987.

 

Ironworks is from 1989. The Hot Rod Patrol is from 1990. 


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:49 AM

Glad to see Grapple looks good, even if his legs are a lil skinny. And Weaponizer Micromaster Bases (Baseizers?) are a neat idea I hadn't considered. Hope we get one of the fire station base.

Outside of liking his headsculpt, that Optimus isn't doing much that Stegetimus didn't already do for me. Having big, boring, grey box with no Roller, no paint apps outside of the stripe, and no design flourishes to make it more interesting doesn't help either.

Those Micromasters both look like Stege Swindler, functionally useless arm articulation and all, and you don't even seem to be able to make a goofy looking gun out of them anymore. So so much for those improving I guess. Can't wait to buy them anyways bc they're relatively cheap and I need them to populate the bases and also I'm an idiot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:49 AM

so we'll have to go through all of G1 again for Earthrise until finally Snapdragon is a tail-ender.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:50 AM

Uhuhuhuhu. HUhuh. Huhhuh.

 

This sucks.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:55 AM

Big Daddy: orange flames, orange robot parts. Other guy, who I'll assume is Little Daddy: blue flames, GREEN robot parts. That bugs me for indescribably petty reasons.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:55 AM

Ironworks is amazing.  :love

 

And I guess my movie Big Daddy is getting shunted to my meager SG collection.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 11:57 AM

Ironworks is a neat surprise, but I really hope Part 3 moves away from G1.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:05 PM

‪Shit. I knew that was the main theory for Deluxe Ironworks but I kinda didn't expect it to be real. Irontread rename makes sense. Micromaster base weaponizer. I want it. Hope there are more. :)

On the one hand this is a quick pass on "space vehicles" but on the other hand their "space vehicles" were largely half-assed "close as we can get to their earth modes" anyway:

I'll say this, for doing G1 again they DO look to be be doing it well. If they have to do Prime again and Grapple again any least they really really well done. Things like Big Daddy and Ironworks here are what I want more of though.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:05 PM

Wow, that Ironworks looks sweet.

 

Grapple and the Micromasters seem okay.

 

Prime... eh. I liked the Studio Series trailer better.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:06 PM

once again Hasbro proves they are incapable of moving past 1987.

 

more and more I consider quitting.

 

I don't understand this sentiment.  Comparing Siege to G1 is no different than saying Justice League (2001) is the same thing as Superfriends.  Is it because it's the same characters with recognizable designs?  Do you want Batman to dress up like a bird?  Anyway, I respect your opinion, I just don't get what you want.  I wish they would do more of a Cybertron-based story, but no matter what, Earth is going to factor in eventually.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:09 PM

That Optimus Prime looks like the Optimus they've been getting incrementally closer to since Combiner Wars.


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