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@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 01:01 PM)

In the U.K., it’s more like you but two, you only get one given how expensive they are.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Transformers are Buy 2 Get 1 free at Target this week.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 04:29 AM)

2019 has been one long South Park episode.

@  Sjogre : (16 November 2019 - 10:46 PM)

Okay, that actually sounds pretty fun.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 12:49 PM)

It was set in the forties, featured Nazi's as the villains and had Kiko fight mostly Ice Age animals and a mythical dragon that now ruled the island guarding Kongs treasure.

@  Paladin : (15 November 2019 - 11:37 AM)

and it was ALSO eleven hours long.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 10:55 AM)

In a alternate reality Peter Jackson made Son of Kong.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

To be fair to boba: everyone else to go into the sarlacc was a sacrifice. Stripped almost naked and tossed, and didn't have body armor, a jetpack and a weapon.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2019 - 06:54 AM)

Nah, he just has to keep up his plot insurance payments so he can shoot his way out of the Sarlacc again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P


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Nerf Dart Rights Management

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:00 PM

So many of you may be familiar with Nerf foam-shooting guns. You may or may not know that the default Nerf dart, the Elite (and all its recolours) are Empirically the worst dart to fire from a Nerf gun, from both a performance and cost basis. Their accuracy is poor and depending on where you're buying refills, you could be sending from a quarter to fifty cents spiralling off into oblivion.

Once you crack the gun open and crank up the power, the fishtailing and spiralling gets even worse.

So the Savvy buyer will pick up a Nerf gun from the shelf, turn slightly to one side, and pick up a hundred pack of Dart Zone darts for ten bucks or less. Less than a dime for a more consistent grouping.

Competitive types will buy off-brand Waffle Heads in bulk and end up at pennies a shot for a dart that still holds a tight group even when thrown at doubke or triple the stock velocities.

This interferes with the Gillette business model, of course, where you take a thin margin on the gun and make it up with fat margins on the reloads.

So, then, behold: The Ultra dart.

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It's halfway between Elite and Mega in both diameter and weight but shorter in length. It uses a styrofoam style stiff material for the dart body that's actually more fragile than the old foam. And it's ten bucks for a pack of twenty.

The most important bit is the multi-lobed tail end, though. It fits into the gun like a key.

If a dart is loaded that doesn't fit the lockout shape, the gun skips it.

And most importantly, that shape has been patented, so Hasbro has a legal stance against aftermarket groups making and selling better replacements for far less.

Pre-release testing has shown there's only a marginal increase in accuracy, and every dart out of the starter gun tumbles. Admittedly the stater gun uses flywheels, but a well-built wheeler firing Waffles can be a tackdriver.

But that gets back to the core of the issue; Giving this gun better ammo to see if it's the darts causing the issue would require disabling the DRM, the Dart Rights Management system.

On the other other hand, there's now a sizable Not-Nerf supply of arms in the Elite standard caliber, both for sale as Ready-To-Fire Walmart models, and high-end high performance customized kits.

So after the wall of text, do you have any opinions? Do you have any opinions I haven't already said? Have I shot myself in the foot already?

Edited by Nutjob R/T, 30 September 2019 - 04:06 PM.

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:15 PM

Well, if you shot yourself in the foot: at least it was a foam dart.

 

I think it's pretty crappy of them, really. Darts that expensive will hurt more when they get lost, and will inevitably drive people AWAY from the nerf brand. I dunno who they think their core demo is, but lots of kids aren't going to get refills now, either before or after the gun purchase, and for the adults which imbibe, they're either going after A dart gun (cause they want something quick for a office war or something.) or a specific model because they want to mod it.

 

Personally, I see this being a mistake in their product roll out which might cost them a hell of a lot of goodwill and customers.


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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:22 PM

I actually did manage to shoot myself in the foot, the danged thing went and double-posted on me
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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:25 PM

Admittedly the stater gun uses flywheels, but a well-built wheeler firing Waffles can be a tackdriver.

Is this English?  What in the hell does this even mean?


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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:27 PM

 

Admittedly the stater gun uses flywheels, but a well-built wheeler firing Waffles can be a tackdriver.

Is this English?  What in the hell does this even mean?

 

The gun nerf did their ammo testing with used a flywheel. A well built flywheel can throw waffles (or something equally innocent.) with the same or similar force to a nail gun.


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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:33 PM

The initial dart gun in the line

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is powered by batteries. It spins a wheel to build kinetic energy, then shoves the dart into contact with the wheel to spit the dart out at high speed.

Compared to the compressed air system, this flywheel-based system tends to be less precise in store-stock guns. Your groups will deviate more.

However, if you modify a flywheel gun with aftermarket parts and electronics, you can greatly improve the precision.

This increase in precision is compounded by using aftermarket "Wafflehead" darts, which themselves have less deviation than stock Nerf darts. So a modified Flywheel gun firing aftermarket Wafflehead darts can have an extremely tight grouping, if you're willing to take the time and effort to tune everything up.

Edited by Nutjob R/T, 30 September 2019 - 04:37 PM.

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 05:02 PM

Nerf is serious business yo


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Posted 30 September 2019 - 06:08 PM

Calling it now, the dart keying system is going to be imperfect, resulting in legit darts not being fired.


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Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:05 PM

I'd be shocked.

SHOCKED!

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Well not that shocked.
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Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:12 PM

Oh, and just to compare: This is what I mean by Wafflehead, compared to an Elite type head.

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For some reason, the shape of the head and the weight distribution keeps it flying a lot straighter, and practically eliminates pinwheeling and spiralling shots.
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Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:47 PM

Yeesh, this is a pretty blatant anti-consumer design choice. Gross, Hasbro. =/

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 09:54 PM

What do the feathers mean, though

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 10:09 PM

Softness. The waffle tip, you see, has three softs, while the solid Elite tip has only one soft.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 30 September 2019 - 10:10 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 01 October 2019 - 12:58 AM

 

Admittedly the stater gun uses flywheels, but a well-built wheeler firing Waffles can be a tackdriver.

Is this English?  What in the hell does this even mean?

 

Obviously, the gun uses spiral energy to harness the power of spinning.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:34 AM

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 01:57 AM

In all seriousness, congrats Hasbro! You've made it so I won't buy any more Nerf guns because the convenience of compatibility with my collection is more important than brand loyalty to me!


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 08:08 AM

China doesn't care about your patents.  This is a non-issue.  If it's a good blaster, there will be aftermarket darts.  But based on what I've read so far, it doesn't sound like it's any better than the standard Elite blasters.  I'm sticking with Rival--you can't beat a 100 ball capacity Nemesis, especially when modded.



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Posted 01 October 2019 - 08:51 AM

Also, er, the Elite line isn't going anywhere.  The Ultras are the showcase line, but they're just a subline like Mega or anything else.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 08:53 AM

... Odd thing about Rival

Nerf is top of the heap for those rounds.
Every other supplier, you get different amounts of squish and uneven texturing

So with variable squish they react differently to the ejecting force and with uneven surface they'll have different drag effects as they rotate
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Posted 01 October 2019 - 09:59 AM

... Odd thing about Rival

Nerf is top of the heap for those rounds.
Every other supplier, you get different amounts of squish and uneven texturing

So with variable squish they react differently to the ejecting force and with uneven surface they'll have different drag effects as they rotate

 

I think Headshot is on par with Nerf.  Or at least close enough that the price difference makes it no contest.





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