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It's all about that Bass XD.

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Will altering the moons orbit in any way help.

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or feed him after midnight

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Just don't drop him.

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man this chat is nothing but Bass X)

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Carefull, he is a Bass Xo.

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Aw, it's not even a shiny.

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A wild Bass X0 has appeared!

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I didn't even try this time.

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8ass X÷ has hijacked this conversation.

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Its Bass X0. I named myself after my three favourite Mega Man characters - Bass, X and Zero. I did consider going with Vile Bass X0, but that would have been going too far.

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Bass XO has been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.

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Do not taunt Bass XO.

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Please consult a technician before using Bass XO. Do not operate Bass XO while consuming alcohol.

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Bass XO is available at these fine retailers.

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Bass XO is not to be confused with Bay Sexo.

@  Fenix Twilight : (10 June 2021 - 08:38 PM)

It's good to be back, after that outage I think I'll try to post more.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 June 2021 - 12:16 PM)

I think Hasbro Pulse is broken. Dang Star Wars nerds!

@  tigerhawk : (10 June 2021 - 04:46 AM)

When I googled 'space bridge' I was disappointed. Maybe in a hundred years.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 June 2021 - 04:05 PM)

Bass XO is backward compatible with the Sega Master System.

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Bass XO has 9" long, dagger-like teeth and a 12,000 lb. bite force

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Bass XO doesn't feel pain. He can't be reasoned with!

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Bass XO has no known weaknesses.

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Base XO is definitely unstoppable.

@  Donocropolis : (07 June 2021 - 04:30 PM)

What about magnets? No one knows how they work or what they can do.

@  Bass X0 : (07 June 2021 - 02:22 PM)

Yes Cybershark, and now no force in the universe can stop us.

@  Cybersnark : (07 June 2021 - 10:03 AM)

Aaaan we're back!

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its alive! AAAALIIIIIIVEEEEEE! *maniacal laugh*

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WHAT!!! ALLSPARK!!! you IN LIVE!!!!!!

@  Donocropolis : (06 June 2021 - 01:53 PM)

Indeed. I was missing it.

@  Shockwave 75 : (06 June 2021 - 11:35 AM)

So glad the boards are back!

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It's alive! Alive!

@  wonko the sane? : (05 June 2021 - 08:32 PM)

Aw man, I missed this place...

@  Sabrblade : (05 June 2021 - 08:31 PM)

Now here in Manhattan, the spell is broken! And we live again!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (05 June 2021 - 08:16 PM)

Groovy.

@  Kaon : (05 June 2021 - 07:23 PM)

How is everyone

@  Kaon : (05 June 2021 - 06:42 PM)

test

@  tigerhawk : (24 May 2021 - 07:42 AM)

I'm making progress with tweezers. It's no great loss given Dai Atlas minor roles anyway, I really do prefer this mold for Titans Overlord and Sky Shadow,

@  unluckiness : (22 May 2021 - 09:57 PM)

Had that happen once. Drilled a 1 mmhole in the peg and superglued a rivet into it for something to pull on.

@  tigerhawk : (22 May 2021 - 09:44 PM)

pliers, superglue, heat, nothing has worked so far but I had to take yesterday off due to pfizer side effects.

@  unluckiness : (22 May 2021 - 07:04 AM)

is there enough plastic sticking out to yank it out with pliers?

@  tigerhawk : (21 May 2021 - 01:05 PM)

Oh great my Legends Dai Atlas fell and the gun snapped in two, the handle is stuck in the port on top of the vehicle mode.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2021 - 04:14 AM)

Also, our compound terms are legendary among foreigners, because we throw them together as a single word, with no spaces and usually without hyphens too.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2021 - 04:12 AM)

You can have straightforward sentences that are a literal word-replace translation of stuff like "I go to school", but once you throw in perfect tense and prepositions, you end up with insane constructions where the main verb is at the very end of a very long sentence, so you have to listen to the whole sentence until you have any clue what is going on.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2021 - 04:10 AM)

And I stand by that. German sentence structure can be utterly insane.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2021 - 04:10 AM)

Fun fact: When I was teaching German kids English, I kept telling them that English grammar and especially sentence structure is more logical than German.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 12:05 PM

It will be brutal

 

It wasn't Disney+, per se (although I am getting it), but they're already winning the war against Netflix, as far as my own TV is concerned. Netflix is no longer the place I go to for bingeing TV anymore, as they've lost most of the good shows, and I really don't care too much about most of their original content. Couple that with their increasing prices, and it was a no-brainer. I added both Britbox and CBS All Access for less together than what Netflix was costing me alone.

 

Admittedly, Disney+ is a cost on top of that, so I AM paying more overall than I was before dropping Netflix, but having gotten a three-year deal that comes out to less than $5 a month, I'm not complaining.

 

Amazon Prime is another story. Right now, we ARE watching TV there more than we were on Netflix, but even if we weren't, the free shipping and other features on Amazon itself would tip the scales just a bit.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 12:23 PM

There was clearly some care put into the casting of the shows, at least. Which makes it all the more odd that both dubs were never brought over by Disney, and the Disk Wars dub being buried after its one showing in Asia.


Wasn't Disk Wars like, heavily focused on its toyline gimmick? Maybe they couldn't figure an American release of the toyline in addition to all the other Avengers products coming out, and figured it wasn't worth it without the toyline. Especially since it wasn't part of their cartoon shared universe.

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 02:25 PM

 

There was clearly some care put into the casting of the shows, at least. Which makes it all the more odd that both dubs were never brought over by Disney, and the Disk Wars dub being buried after its one showing in Asia.


Wasn't Disk Wars like, heavily focused on its toyline gimmick? Maybe they couldn't figure an American release of the toyline in addition to all the other Avengers products coming out, and figured it wasn't worth it without the toyline. Especially since it wasn't part of their cartoon shared universe.

 

It was, but after, what, 5 years since its premiere, I think they could chuck it out.  After all, the original 90s shows aren't really a "shared universe" in the way they tried with the Disney XD shows (and even then...I'm not sure it's a priority with the launch of Disney+ and its inclusion of the "proper" MCU).



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Posted 12 September 2019 - 03:15 PM

 

It will be brutal

 

It wasn't Disney+, per se (although I am getting it), but they're already winning the war against Netflix, as far as my own TV is concerned. Netflix is no longer the place I go to for bingeing TV anymore, as they've lost most of the good shows, and I really don't care too much about most of their original content. Couple that with their increasing prices, and it was a no-brainer. I added both Britbox and CBS All Access for less together than what Netflix was costing me alone.

 

Admittedly, Disney+ is a cost on top of that, so I AM paying more overall than I was before dropping Netflix, but having gotten a three-year deal that comes out to less than $5 a month, I'm not complaining.

 

Amazon Prime is another story. Right now, we ARE watching TV there more than we were on Netflix, but even if we weren't, the free shipping and other features on Amazon itself would tip the scales just a bit.

 

Disney owns Star wars, Marvel, Fox, and all of Disney's library.  When they launch, all of the above will most likely disappear from the other channels.  Not all at once, but they will disappear for sure.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 03:33 PM

 

 

It will be brutal

 

It wasn't Disney+, per se (although I am getting it), but they're already winning the war against Netflix, as far as my own TV is concerned. Netflix is no longer the place I go to for bingeing TV anymore, as they've lost most of the good shows, and I really don't care too much about most of their original content. Couple that with their increasing prices, and it was a no-brainer. I added both Britbox and CBS All Access for less together than what Netflix was costing me alone.

 

Admittedly, Disney+ is a cost on top of that, so I AM paying more overall than I was before dropping Netflix, but having gotten a three-year deal that comes out to less than $5 a month, I'm not complaining.

 

Amazon Prime is another story. Right now, we ARE watching TV there more than we were on Netflix, but even if we weren't, the free shipping and other features on Amazon itself would tip the scales just a bit.

 

Disney owns Star wars, Marvel, Fox, and all of Disney's library.  When they launch, all of the above will most likely disappear from the other channels.  Not all at once, but they will disappear for sure.

 

 

It's already happening. This is known.



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Posted 12 September 2019 - 04:26 PM

 

 

There was clearly some care put into the casting of the shows, at least. Which makes it all the more odd that both dubs were never brought over by Disney, and the Disk Wars dub being buried after its one showing in Asia.


Wasn't Disk Wars like, heavily focused on its toyline gimmick? Maybe they couldn't figure an American release of the toyline in addition to all the other Avengers products coming out, and figured it wasn't worth it without the toyline. Especially since it wasn't part of their cartoon shared universe.

 

It was, but after, what, 5 years since its premiere, I think they could chuck it out.  After all, the original 90s shows aren't really a "shared universe" in the way they tried with the Disney XD shows (and even then...I'm not sure it's a priority with the launch of Disney+ and its inclusion of the "proper" MCU).

 

 

The toy tie-in with the disks themselves is kind of overstated as well. The toys transform into robot-style versions of the heroes. Within the series itself, they never do.

In fact the only imitable things the kid characters do with the disks is wear them on watch straps and throw them to the ground (to release the characters within). The end credits alone feature CG renders of five the disks transforming, but that's all.

Disney could easily have released the series outside of Asia with no objection from Bandai; although ostensinbly conceived to sell toys, the characters appeared in print first, and as a result the series is solely copyrighted to Marvel.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 04:35 PM

the characters appeared in print first, and as a result the series is solely copyrighted to Marvel.


I don't think that's how it works. Like, Dragon Ball anime material has copyright attribution for Toei alongside Shueisha and Toriyama's Bird Studio.

edit: while I don't know the specific arrangements the Marvel anime were made under, copyright for adaptations doesn't default to "because the characters came from elsewhere, it belongs solely to the source material's publisher". For another example, the copyright notices on Harry Potter movies aren't simply "everything owned by Bloomsbury and Rowling".

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 07:18 PM

 

the characters appeared in print first, and as a result the series is solely copyrighted to Marvel.


I don't think that's how it works. Like, Dragon Ball anime material has copyright attribution for Toei alongside Shueisha and Toriyama's Bird Studio.

edit: while I don't know the specific arrangements the Marvel anime were made under, copyright for adaptations doesn't default to "because the characters came from elsewhere, it belongs solely to the source material's publisher". For another example, the copyright notices on Harry Potter movies aren't simply "everything owned by Bloomsbury and Rowling".

 

 

For the copyright info, I'm going off the details on the original Japanese end credits, which list, in English, the series copyrighted to Marvel alone. The credits could be wrong, but like the recent U.S. series they're also very specific about noting that Captain America was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Again, this information is written in English on the original Japanese version of the series.



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Posted 13 September 2019 - 01:51 AM

So, I'm going to assume by "In it's entirety" Is still going to mean "The Goliath Chronicles never happened?"


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Posted 13 September 2019 - 02:35 AM

For the copyright info, I'm going off the details on the original Japanese end credits, which list, in English, the series copyrighted to Marvel alone. The credits could be wrong, but like the recent U.S. series they're also very specific about noting that Captain America was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Again, this information is written in English on the original Japanese version of the series.


It's possible that they made some sort of agreement that Marvel would own it entirely, but that's not an automatic consequence of using characters that first appeared elsewhere, or else other adaptations would look that way as well.

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 07:43 AM

 

It's possible that they made some sort of agreement that Marvel would own it entirely, but that's not an automatic consequence of using characters that first appeared elsewhere, or else other adaptations would look that way as well.

 

 

 

I think the difference with Marvel is that they own the characters outright, in addition to publishing them. It's a similar situation with DC as the Big Two own outright most of the characters they themselves publish. That would be the difference with other adaptations and publishers.
 
The U.S. copyright website lists a few episodes of Disk Wars that Marvel copyrighted back in 2014. They only list episodes 1-6 so it's possible that other episodes might have also included Toei and/or Bandai too - it's uncertain with the information available.
 
The available evidence doesn't seem to preclude Disk Wars being off-limits, and the English dub's one-time showing was on a Disney channel, so it goes back to hoping that it turns up on Disney+ alongside most of the other past Marvel series.
 
Obviously all of Marvel's recent animated series have been owned by them, but Disney ended up with the distribution rights to most of the older Marvel animated series too (years before they even acquired Marvel itself), explaining why they'll be available on the service.
 
A famous instance where this is not the case is with the original 1967 Fantastic Four series; Disney now own the characters, but don't have distribution rights to this show so it's in limbo.


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Posted 13 September 2019 - 10:07 AM

I think the difference with Marvel is that they own the characters outright, in addition to publishing them.


That can't be it. If other publishers don't own their characters despite owning the stories they came from, then who owns the characters?

Like, looking at Dragon Ball again, Toei probably doesn't own the characters since the manga's copyrights are only Shueisha and Bird Studio (like in the pictures here, for example), so your reasoning of "own the characters" = "own the adaptation" doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 11:16 AM

That can't be it. If other publishers don't own their characters despite owning the stories they came from, then who owns the characters?Like, looking at Dragon Ball again, Toei probably doesn't own the characters since the manga's copyrights are only Shueisha and Bird Studio (like in the pictures here, for example), so your reasoning of "own the characters" = "own the adaptation" doesn't make a whole lot of sense.


To close off my contribution on this, my comments about the characters appearing in print first were intended to be specific to Marvel, in conjunction with the Marvel-only credit on Disk Wars itself.

Every contract will be different, with the original authors retaining either a large or more marginal stake in the final product. An example with Marvel itself would be the Spectacular Spider-Man series being copyrighted to Adelaide Productions (Sony), while at the same time the characters on the show were copyrighted to Marvel.

Disk Wars, as with the Marvel animated series starting with Ultimate Spider-Man in 2012, only lists one copyright, for Marvel, presumably covering both the series and characters within. Therefore, admittedly based only on what was shown on the Disk Wars credits and on the U.S. Copyright Office website (both of which could be red herrings), I still contend that it is not an unreasonable assumption that Marvel alone owns Disk Wars and can do with it as they see fit.

Hopefully as Disney+ progresses we will all get some clarity with regards the status of the Disk Wars and Future Avengers dubs.

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 12:04 PM

The Disney+ service is testing in the Netherlands at the moment & they've put together a full list of everything apparently available at day 1.

 

https://attractionsm...s-day-one-list/

 

 

it's likely this will be a bit different on release (distribution rights varying by region and all that) but still... there's a LOT there...


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 12:16 PM

As far as Muppets go, kinda miffed the Muppet Show isn't on there. Especially since Disney has yet to release the last two seasons on DVD.

 

Neither is the original Muppet Babies.

 

I hope the Muppet Christmas Carol has the VHS-only Scrooge song.


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 12:27 PM

As far as Muppets go, kinda miffed the Muppet Show isn't on there. Especially since Disney has yet to release the last two seasons on DVD.

 

Exactly what I was looking for. But I notice The Simpsons also isn't (aside from the movie), nor are there any obvious packages of Silly Symphonies/1930s-1960s theatrical shorts, so maybe this excludes "episodic" content?

 

It's sure aimed at kids/teens/parents. Not much in the way of "adult" movies (not THAT kind of adult, you know what I mean) from FOX, Touchstone, etc... they've got a huge library to draw from, but this seems like pure Disney Channel content.



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 12:42 PM

 
Neither is the original Muppet Babies.
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If I understand correctly the original Muppet Babies is a mess rights wise because of all the Movie, TV and song clips used. Apparently none of them were signed for later release so all those rights would have to be arranged and paid for now for any sort of release which is why there's never been one.

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Posted 18 September 2019 - 12:48 PM

 

As far as Muppets go, kinda miffed the Muppet Show isn't on there. Especially since Disney has yet to release the last two seasons on DVD.

 

Exactly what I was looking for. But I notice The Simpsons also isn't (aside from the movie), nor are there any obvious packages of Silly Symphonies/1930s-1960s theatrical shorts, so maybe this excludes "episodic" content?

 

It's sure aimed at kids/teens/parents. Not much in the way of "adult" movies (not THAT kind of adult, you know what I mean) from FOX, Touchstone, etc... they've got a huge library to draw from, but this seems like pure Disney Channel content.

 

Don't forget that this is just the initial lineup for the Netherlands. The U.S. and other countries will likely have some variation from what is seen here.


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Posted 18 September 2019 - 01:17 PM

Yeah, IIRC, some of the Marvel's films are tied up in some broadcasting rights and won't be available at launch.  That list also doesn't seem to feature any of the episodic content, so Disney might be doing some stress testing with the Netherlands smaller sample size.

 

But it'd SO be worth for the entire Love Bug series and oldies like That Darn Cat and original Tron reality available for streaming.  If our launch is close to the Netherlands list, it's definitely going to be worth it.



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Posted 18 September 2019 - 01:20 PM

 

It's sure aimed at kids/teens/parents. Not much in the way of "adult" movies (not THAT kind of adult, you know what I mean) from FOX, Touchstone, etc... they've got a huge library to draw from, but this seems like pure Disney Channel content.

 

That was intentional.  Disney+ isn't going to get much more mature than some older PG or PG-13 films or The Simpsons.  They've explicitly said that Hulu is gong to be the home for the company's more mature content that wouldn't fit in the demographics for Disney+





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