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@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 05:07 PM)

Cheers pal.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 September 2020 - 04:42 PM)

Welcome aboard!

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 04:38 PM)

Hey, new to the boards

@  RichardT1977 : (20 September 2020 - 02:29 PM)

I had an idea for a Spiral Zone/Go-Busters crossover fanfic...

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.

@  Rycochet : (17 September 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Red Dwarf of Transformers? An interesting, innovative and genuinely funny series that descended into a self referential mess of cliches that continues long after it should have been put out to pasture and rendered nerly everyone thoroughly unlikeable? That seems about right.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM)

MTMTE and Lost Light are the Red Dwarf of Transformers stories, as opposed to the others which are more like Star Wars and Star Trek.

@  Kalidor : (17 September 2020 - 01:37 PM)

Anyone in CONUS want a Skylynx for $100 shipped?

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 September 2020 - 01:34 PM)

Maybe an acquired taste in that's in that it's from a fan raised on the UK run where Transformers wasn't taken so seriously in many stories, especially some Earthforce standalones.

@  Paladin : (17 September 2020 - 09:47 AM)

so, terrible?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Yeah I think at that point Lost Light is just the '86 movie without the soundtrack.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 September 2020 - 02:28 AM)

So, exctly what Triangleman just said.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 12:36 AM)

A few of the same characters.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 12:07 AM)

Now having actually read Galaxies #10, I don't actually see what it has in common with Lost Light at all besides featuring Ultra Magnus, Chromedome, and a spaceship.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 05:33 PM)

So, it's exactly like Lost Light, then.

@  Bass X0 : (16 September 2020 - 01:52 PM)

What if Lost Light was stripped bare of its charm and humor? Galaxies #10 is the answer.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 01:49 PM)

I didn't mean "*exactly* 15 years ago and no other time."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 September 2020 - 12:27 AM)

I mean, the comment was about a linewide gimmick of 15 years ago, not a gimmick only present in a minority of toys from that year.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:14 AM)

I'd like a western take on the UT for it's twentieth, like a annual CG or anime movie on Netflix that is a condensed retelling similar to the film Macross/Robotech: Do You Remember Love.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:11 AM)

Giant Planet had them, Energon had a few. I've been disappointed in Siege for not having something for the Micromasters, Earthrise has with the base bots but they've been wasted here.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 September 2020 - 10:47 PM)

Wasn't 15 years ago Cyber Keys rather than Minicons?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 September 2020 - 09:38 PM)

By and large, even the worst Minicons have some unique engineering or design elements. The nostalgia factor aside, Micromasters got pretty samey after you got several, especially the "proper" 89 series.


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#1 Jalaguy

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 12:42 AM

Discuss the issue here!

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 03:39 AM

I feel like this is the first time in a long time that we're getting a Prime based on the cartoon and not the movie.  He has a personality beyond "stoic" here!


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 06:04 AM

This could have been some disposable piece of trash but man, it's just so much fun and exactly what you'd hope a TF/GB crossover should be. This should be ongoing.

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Close enough, old boy.

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#4 MrBlud

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 05:36 PM

I love Starscreams bizarre and unending usage of Pete Venkman

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 06:41 PM

I love Starscreams bizarre and unending usage of Pete Venkman

Well, it's how Peter introduced himself. He'd have no other reason to shorten it, a day or so after meeting. (:



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Posted 06 September 2019 - 11:21 AM

I hope this was as much fun to write and draw as it was fun to read.

 

Can we keep this Optimus? I'm sure there's a high probability he says things like "Lay it on me, man!" and slam dunks on his fellow Autobots.


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Posted 28 September 2019 - 02:12 PM

And the finale is out this week. I hope everyone had fun with the intimate cast we assembled.



#8 Bass X0

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 07:16 AM

Ive never liked the IDW renditions of the Ghostbusters. Theyre very cartoon accurate with the Transformers in this mini but not cartoon accurate with the Ghostbusters.

IDW made their own redesigns for both Transformers and Ghostbusters; which is fine. So why did they half-ass it be having cartoon meets comic - why not both be cartoon or both be comic?

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 08:32 AM

Because this is part of IDW's ongoing Ghostbusters continuity which is not a cartoon adaptation????????????????????????????????????????????

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 10:34 AM

Because this is part of IDW's ongoing Ghostbusters continuity which is not a cartoon adaptation????????????????????????????????????????????


But they saw fit to make the Transformers based on the cartoon which isnt in IDW continuity. Why one and not the other? Cartoon designs meets comic designs is jarring to me.

We didnt *need* yet another throwaway G1 universe.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 06:48 PM

We didnt *need* yet another throwaway G1 universe.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 07:35 PM

You could make a crossover like this work within an existing universe, I'm sure, but I'm glad they went with a new one. It'd be a hard time working out a way to have Optimus Prime and Ectotron fighting ghost Decepticons and still fit it into the G1 cartoon continuity.

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Posted 01 October 2019 - 08:57 PM

This was never going to be attached to any ongoing continuity because you can't just have Ghostbusters sitting around in your core TF universe forever. It doesn't work that way. It might work that way if the Ghostbusters were owned by Hasbro like GI Joe, but then people would complain a lot more, for different (and largely still stupid) reasons. 

 

And really, in terms of what designs they went with... for both GB and TF, this is ultimately just... "the way Dan Schoening draws them". Which is excellent. 


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 09:12 PM

The IDW Ghostbusters canon seems to be pretty open to "these things actually happened" so odds are we'll be staying in a Ghostbusters Universe where the Transformers exist as robots in disguise even though they won't interact at all outside of any further crossovers.

 

Unless all the Cybertronians get sucked into an alternate Universe or something.


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Posted 01 October 2019 - 09:33 PM

These are the versions of the Ghostbusters that appear in every IDW Ghostbusters story. Even the standalone series about the cartoon or reboot versions mention the times those versions crossed over with these guys.

 

Which now that I think about means the cartoon Ghostbusters are already canon and technically could've been used, but like I said, this is really just the next story of the main IDW Ghostbusters, which happens to guest star Transformers.



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Posted 02 October 2019 - 11:45 AM

Also Ghostbuster Optimus Prime is a toy based on the cartoon model, so.


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Posted 02 October 2019 - 04:14 PM

To offer some reasonable criticism, it would have been improved if you could've arranged for a Ray Parker, Jr. / Stan Bush rock duet. But that's a minor issue.


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Posted 02 October 2019 - 04:42 PM

If you're all alone/in the eye of the storm/what you gonna have?

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Posted 02 October 2019 - 09:25 PM

Matrix Buster?

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 05:36 AM

Ive never liked the IDW renditions of the Ghostbusters. Theyre very cartoon accurate with the Transformers in this mini but not cartoon accurate with the Ghostbusters.

IDW made their own redesigns for both Transformers and Ghostbusters; which is fine. So why did they half-ass it be having cartoon meets comic - why not both be cartoon or both be comic?


1. The IDW version is because of likeness rights.
2. Its the 35th anniversary of the GB movie - which is what Dans designs stand in for in the comics, as likenesses are unavailable.
3. If you wonder what its like to deal with likeness rights, imagine this: every time you post about Transformers your post goes to a moderator who will not allow it if you misspell the names of one of the bots; but the correct spelling changes regularly and without warning.
4. As for why the cartoon bots, its their 35th anniversary too.



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