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@  Paladin : (14 July 2020 - 06:18 AM)

the correct answwer to "who shot first" will always be "Harrison Ford if he ever hears that hugging question again."

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH

@  -LittleAutob... : (09 July 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Okay?

@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.

@  Trpodeca : (07 July 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Man I just learnt about what seemed like a really cool show, only to realize it was a dream and it dosen't really exist.

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 01:02 PM)

Just something I read that I wanted to share. I heard "gray rock" mentioned in a video, so I looked it up and that was the definition.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 July 2020 - 12:20 PM)

It's a fancy way of saying "Ignore annoying people".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (07 July 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Bass XO has a habit of pasting random drivel here as if doing so were profound.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 July 2020 - 11:30 AM)

And this would be in relation to... what exactly?

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 11:25 AM)

"One strategy for dealing with a narcissist or sociopath is to act like a "gray rock," meaning that you become uninteresting and unresponsive. You don't feed their needs for drama or attention. You don't show emotion, say anything interesting, or disclose any personal information"

@  Nevermore : (06 July 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Oh wow. Studio Series Offroad Bumblebee is awesome. His articulation is amazing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (06 July 2020 - 11:18 AM)

Oof-

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

I got Studio Series 39 Cogman yesterday and woke up to find he'd decapitated my titans returns figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 July 2020 - 10:19 PM)

If I had a sarcasm powered mouth.. ooohh waaaiiittt...

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 05:01 PM)

Heh

@  Bass X0 : (04 July 2020 - 02:56 PM)

"If I had sarcasm-powered legs, I'd do a happy dance...!"


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I'm tired of Starscream being portrayed as traitorous for the sake of being traitorous


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#1 Johnny Here

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 09:07 PM


I really wish he was an Autobot because I think he's starting to become one of my favorite characters.

I knew he had reasons for betraying Megatron in IDW but it seemed like they didnt delve too deep...I just got finished reading All Hail Megatron

I wish they'd make m him a double agent in the new IDW series

I just want him to have some actual values instead of power for the sake of power

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 10:50 PM

I really wish he was an Autobot

 

Then go watch Armada.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 01:20 AM

I knew he had reasons for betraying Megatron in IDW but it seemed like they didnt delve too deep...I just got finished reading All Hail Megatron
 

 

AHM was an attempt to go back to the cartoon setting, so you won't get what you want there.

 

You should keep reading the IDW (1.0) comics though. He's a major character in John Barber's Robots in Disguise and Mairghread Scott's various titles, with a lot of interesting motivation and character development.



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Posted 03 September 2019 - 03:46 AM

Yeah, he retains his self-serving traits there, but it's hardly for the sake of being treacherous (he even lampshades that in RID, I believe) and it just gets more interesting the longer it goes.

This topic reminds me of MW Thundercracker, whose function was Rebel Warrior. That must've been a fun job interview.


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#5 Pennpenn

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 04:10 AM

Kinda what he's there for, though. I mean, if you want plucky yellow mass market appeal, you pick Bumblebee, you want a speechifying cardboard cut out, you get Optimus, you want someone to hurl themselves off a moral event horizon without hesitation, you get Megatron, you want to include a character you blithely think will be infinitely popular just because she's the result of a subsection of fans randomly picking her component attributes several years ago you want [think of something later], you get Windblade, and if you want a character to be a treacherous or at least underhanded git, well that's Starscream.



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Posted 03 September 2019 - 04:40 AM

As much flak as AHM gets (most of it well deserved), I kind of loved that Megatron subscribed to the idea that if Starscream actually managed to kill him, he would axiomatically deserve to lead. And that he got Starscream to buy into it enough that he saved Megatron at the end instead of letting him be captured or killed. Very Klingon.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 05:02 AM

Isn't Autobot Starscream Thundercracker?

There is nothing wrong with Starscream being treacherous if his reasoning is fleshed wanting to be and he has plans rather than being Megatron with high heels and wings, oh and a crown, because movie.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:10 AM

I think without Starscream's attempts to upstage Megatron and become leader of the cons, he would be another Soundwave or G1 cartoon Shockwave with very little development, the whole trying to take over as leader is a core staple of his character and I doult that will change anytime soon.


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Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:44 AM

Isn't Autobot Starscream Thundercracker?

There is nothing wrong with Starscream being treacherous if his reasoning is fleshed wanting to be and he has plans rather than being Megatron with high heels and wings, oh and a crown, because movie.

I kind of just want a character who's conniving and scheming on the side of 'good'.

Like Garak from DS9. Closest thing was Ptowl but he wasn't as charming.

Edited by Johnny Here, 03 September 2019 - 06:45 AM.


#10 Nevermore

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:48 AM

I kind of just want a character who's conniving and scheming on the side of 'good'.


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Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:55 AM

Isn't Autobot Starscream Thundercracker?
There is nothing wrong with Starscream being treacherous if his reasoning is fleshed wanting to be and he has plans rather than being Megatron with high heels and wings, oh and a crown, because movie.

I kind of just want a character who's conniving and scheming on the side of 'good'.
Like Garak from DS9. Closest thing was Ptowl but he wasn't as charming.

Well, then, that's definitely Prowl. Not sure "conniving and scheming" should really be romanticized by presenting it as charming, unless it's a character who somehow regularly bamboozles everyone to surprise them for their birthday.


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Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:55 AM

Read Marvel Grimlock. For a short while he schemed to take control of the Autobots because he thought he'd do a better job than Optimus. And, like Starscream, he actually got to be leader for a while.

Or watch RID Ultra Magnus, who also thought he should be the one carrying the Matrix, not his brother.

Neither of those are particularly charming, so, hmm, I guess who you actually want is IDW Getaway.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 06:57 AM

I kind of just want a character who's conniving and scheming on the side of 'good'.

"Optimus Prime has fallen! I, Starscream, am your leader now!"
"Nope."
"Definitely not."
"Not a chance."
"That's not how this works, Starscream."

replace Starscream with Dinobot and you've got the Beast Wars pilot

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:32 AM

I honestly don't want Starscream to take center stage in anything anymore.

 

Give it to someone else honestly.  Like Blitzwing or Octane or whomever.  Just not Starscream.


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Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:44 AM

I honestly don't want Starscream to take center stage in anything anymore.

 

Give it to someone else honestly.  Like Blitzwing or Octane or whomever.  Just not Starscream.

 

Oh dear. Then, you're not gonna be too thrilled about Cyberverse season 2, as the episode descriptions make it sound like he's the season-long main antagonist, playing a huge gambit against both Autobots and Decepticons alike kinda like in The Underbase Saga or the middle portion of TF: Cybertron.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:50 AM

Yeah. I think that spurred my response. Hopefully it's good nonetheless.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 11:22 AM

Honestly, Starscream explicitly having no real ideology beyond pursuit of power is something I really love. I see it as basically being his defining character flaw.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 11:52 AM

no real ideology beyond pursuit of power

And suddenly I want to hear a Starscream VA reading Trump tweets.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:10 PM

Honestly, Starscream explicitly having no real ideology beyond pursuit of power is something I really love. I see it as basically being his defining character flaw.

 

The issue I have with it is whenever it isn't treated as a flaw.

 

Like, when people insist that he must be insipidly treacherous because "that's how he was in the G1 cartoon" because "he's supposed to be" and can never be allowed to grow and mature from being one-dimensional to becoming multi-dimensional.


Edited by Sabrblade, 03 September 2019 - 12:11 PM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:12 PM

Sometimes shallow motivations are okay. Just look at the Kurgan from Highlander, he's evil for evil's sake and he doesn't need any deeper motivation than that. He is evil because he loves every single minute of it.


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