Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  Echowarrior : (17 May 2021 - 09:54 PM)

I've had to do fix fics for my own fix fics.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 02:19 PM)

"Fix fics" are their own entire category of fanfiction.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 May 2021 - 01:32 PM)

Is fanfic "fixing" an author's story? (Often it is, I think.)

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 May 2021 - 12:15 PM)

I don't think people repainting and such are nessicarly "Fixing" a toy, just modding it to their likes. The problem is when they go around claiming to have "Fixed' it, that I feel it becomes a problem.

@  CORVUS : (17 May 2021 - 08:41 AM)

"I was gonna buy some Toyhax labels for Earthrise Auto-Whatsit, but since I'd be disrespecting the artistic expression of the designers, I think I'll just forget the whole thing."

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:41 AM)

Like, in general, not going into specific bands or covers. Because I could point out plenty of repainted toys I didn't like as much as the original, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:39 AM)

Is a musician covering a song "fixing" it?

@  Nevermore : (17 May 2021 - 05:15 AM)

So, then, isn't redecoing or retooling an existing toy also "fixing" someone else's art?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 10:07 PM)

A toy is not on the same level as a piece of drawn art, true, but it is 100% an entertainment product.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 02:58 AM)

Oops, All Berries

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2021 - 12:47 AM)

Nope, Chuck Berry

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 10:42 PM)

Nope, Chuck Testa.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 10:41 PM)

English needs to revive Chuck Finley in everyday text

@  Xero Prime : (15 May 2021 - 09:09 PM)

English needs to revive Mindy in everyday text.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 08:07 PM)

English needs to revive book in everyday text.

@  Sabrblade : (15 May 2021 - 04:00 PM)

English needs to revive Mook in everyday text

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 03:42 PM)

English needs to revive Mork in everyday text

@  CORVUS : (15 May 2021 - 02:21 PM)

English needs to revive Morn in everyday text

@  Nevermore : (15 May 2021 - 12:38 PM)

English needs to revive Gorn in everyday text

@  Sabrblade : (15 May 2021 - 09:46 AM)

English needs to revive Gore in everyday text

@  Bass X0 : (15 May 2021 - 09:45 AM)

English needs to revive Gort in everyday text

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 May 2021 - 06:52 AM)

English needs to revive bort in everyday text

@  Telly : (15 May 2021 - 01:12 AM)

English needs to revive bork in everyday text

@  NovaSaber : (15 May 2021 - 12:15 AM)

English needs to revive dork in everyday text.

@  Sabrblade : (14 May 2021 - 09:34 PM)

English needs to revive pork in everyday text.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 May 2021 - 09:26 PM)

English needs to revive porn in everyday text.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 May 2021 - 09:10 PM)

English needs to revive ■orn in everyday text.

@  Patch : (14 May 2021 - 05:53 PM)

:cheet

@  Nevermore : (14 May 2021 - 06:09 AM)

ń

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 May 2021 - 04:49 AM)

#

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 May 2021 - 03:50 AM)

4

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 May 2021 - 11:46 PM)

h

@  Telly : (13 May 2021 - 09:08 PM)

g

@  CORVUS : (13 May 2021 - 08:54 PM)

i

@  Trigggerr : (13 May 2021 - 07:46 PM)

h

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...


Photo
* * * * - 3 votes

The ongoing destruction of Vic Mignogna's career.


311 replies to this topic

#41 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20816 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Some bilingual part of Canada
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:32 PM

Ironbite-it's basically declaring him a piece of shit and there's nothing he can sue for.

 

This statement is defamatory and false
because Mr. Mignogna is not a piece of shit (that is another name for feces, thus it
is impossible for him to be a "piece of shit")


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#42 LBD "Nytetrayn"

LBD "Nytetrayn"

    Quyzbuk

  • Supporter
  • 19219 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toronto
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 04 August 2019 - 09:41 PM

Ironbite-it's basically declaring him a piece of shit and there's nothing he can sue for.

 
This statement is defamatory and false
because Mr. Mignogna is not a piece of shit (that is another name for feces, thus it
is impossible for him to be a "piece of shit")

Ohhhhhhh... this is THAT story, is it?

Honestly, if that was the best my defense could come up with, I'd strongly consider just telling them to lock me up right there.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

qjWUWdm.gif1edr1cF.gif0g9jaoG.gifuWt4fLV.gif


#43 Detour

Detour

    Too lazy to change the avatar but Graham Linehan is a sack of sh

  • Supporter
  • 20816 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Some bilingual part of Canada
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 04 August 2019 - 09:57 PM

 

 

Ironbite-it's basically declaring him a piece of shit and there's nothing he can sue for.

 
This statement is defamatory and false
because Mr. Mignogna is not a piece of shit (that is another name for feces, thus it
is impossible for him to be a "piece of shit")

Ohhhhhhh... this is THAT story, is it?

Honestly, if that was the best my defense could come up with, I'd strongly consider just telling them to lock me up right there.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

That's not the defense. :D

 

Vic Mangina is the plaintiff. This is an attempt at a civil suit for defamation.

This is from the letter Vic's attorney sent Ron Toye, Monica Rial's fiancé.

https://drive.google...DyMICcjjONsnrWG

 

It's becoming quite notorious in the lawyer side of the world.


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


#44 Skids

Skids

    Get your quest on.

  • Supporter
  • 2070 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rocky River, Ohio
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 04 August 2019 - 10:25 PM

This has been the most interesting of train wrecks. I been keeping tabs on this since it involves some of my favorite voice actresses and Convention gone to in the past.  So its like EEK.

 

On why it didn't come to light.  The main factor is this guys popularity level.  He was over with fans.  Ever since he did his Full Metal Alchemist role.  He was voice actor equivalent to the Beatles in music popularity.  If you were attend a con to try to get an autograph.  Good luck since the lines were always huge and non stop.  Plus with the conventions and for general public. He did stuff that portrayed himself in very good PR light Besides the basic general voice actor panels. He had religious, christian theme panels. I never attended them but remember seeing Christian Volleyball with Vic one year and a mass panel.  Which seem really odd for Convention to do.  But in way in present hey he is willing to help out some of our religious fans on their sacred day of the week. So cons beside money he was good PR person in a way.

 

Now eventually I did hear about his womanizing through out the years.  More so in comedic panels which were run by former staff members of various conventions. Granted these weren't great detail stories just jokes and if your not paying attention you would miss it.  So people knew and got the impression about him but their was no evidence for attendees to really do anything about this unless they were directly involved.  With the attendees accusing him part.  From what I seen posted.  Its more subtle and you have to pay attention or you can miss it.  From pictures it like he's doing at the gray point.  Where its like they may not realize at the time or its enough of oh its rush accidental slip since has to handle so many fans. Plus you have the fans in fan mode and not thinking clearly or if they are.  Caught off guard.  Its just more mess instead of clear creeping.  Which factor into why its taken so long to come out. 

 

With the sexual pursuit stuff and convention staff allowing it.  While its easy to say we want money lets cover this up.  Theirs more factors to it.  He's the guest, if he is acting in the wrong.  The correct staff has to be made aware of it. With how convention itself has that set up.  If guest is harassing you at the convention.  You have to let the convention staff and the proper authorities know.  Especially at the time of the convention where they can do stuff.  So its as when the con is active.  Plus if any of this was happening at hotel, bar, or restaurant. As long as the voice actor is not represent the convention. I think legally it fall under the staff and owners of those business. That Plus anime conventions do have a lot of adult scene going on.  Beside hentai, 21+ panels, Burlesque, and erotic cosplay.  Their is sub culture trying to hook.  So I can easily see him cover his track.  Saying some groupies are trying to hook up with him. With those possibilities while not right.  I can see making the convention at least for a few years be confuse on the situation.

 

This just a nightmare and train wreck thats just get worst and worst.



#45 unluckiness

unluckiness

    We must kung-fu fight!

  • Citizen
  • 21173 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Philippines
  • Faction::Minicon

Posted 05 August 2019 - 12:45 AM

Oh boy you're both siding here.

 

Ironbite-come on man, be better then this.

Yes, I am saying both sides of this are shit here.

 

If every single thing that the defendants say about Vic was true, they were fully aware of his predatory behavior yet took part in covering for him, putting up the illusion that everything is alright and allowed a known predator to go about his predator business for two decades in exchange for a paycheck. Sorry, I can't hitch my wagon up with people who think that is acceptable regardless of ongoing legal proceedings. I'm sure they won't notice one less pair of torches and pitchforks and I have plenty of contempt for as many sides pop up.

 

Can't think of any better than not throwing my lot in with either predators or predator-enablers.


Edited by unluckiness, 05 August 2019 - 04:45 AM.

XgxCpmP.png


#46 HellCat

HellCat
  • Citizen
  • 29756 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 05 August 2019 - 03:36 AM

I don't defend Vic but it's well known that Funimation has never exactly been a well run ship. Marchi herself has been connected to rewriting dub scripts to reference Gamergate and patriarchy when they were never there in the first place.

In a world where we had the Weinstein controversy I can well believe Vic was getting away with crap for years and Funimation themselves were turning a blind eye to it. Vic was one of their most bankable stars due to Ed and Broly. Rial? The third dub voice of Bulma.

Hell, speaking as someone who works partly as an entertainment journalist I can tell you how quickly those circles will lock you out if you rock the boat or say the wrong thing.

#47 Xellos

Xellos

    Go Home Club

  • Citizen
  • 1482 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 05 August 2019 - 06:53 AM

As someone who only watches dubs and majority is from Funimation, I am at least glad that those rewrites are very few (and I believe they changed the Gamergate one for the physical release).

On to the Vic thing, I am still on the sidelines with is, as there is a lot of shit going everywhere in this.

It does make sense with the firing after the big "news" story, as we see that all the time. It is all about image. Plus, in reality, they are all pretty popular, so who do you go with, the guy who is in two or three shows a year, usually in secondary roles, or Marchi and Rial who at least work on like 90% of the stuff they bring out? Business wise, they made the "safe" decision.

Don't like how that stuff works, but I can see why they did it.
"Cry Havoc, and let slip the perspicacious death paw equipped cat girls of war!" - Hououin Kyouma - Steins;Gate

#48 Benbot

Benbot

    What a nerd

  • Supporter
  • 5674 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Never Past Bedtime Land

Posted 05 August 2019 - 12:51 PM

I had to look up his Wikipedia page because I have no idea who he is, but damn his list of credits is long.  What is it with anime dubbing that they basically hire the same 5 people to do all of them?  



#49 LBD "Nytetrayn"

LBD "Nytetrayn"

    Quyzbuk

  • Supporter
  • 19219 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toronto
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 05 August 2019 - 02:06 PM

 

 

Ironbite-it's basically declaring him a piece of shit and there's nothing he can sue for.

 
This statement is defamatory and false
because Mr. Mignogna is not a piece of shit (that is another name for feces, thus it
is impossible for him to be a "piece of shit")
Ohhhhhhh... this is THAT story, is it?

Honestly, if that was the best my defense could come up with, I'd strongly consider just telling them to lock me up right there.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"
 
That's not the defense. :D
 
Vic Mangina is the plaintiff. This is an attempt at a civil suit for defamation.
This is from the letter Vic's attorney sent Ron Toye, Monica Rial's fiancé.
https://drive.google...DyMICcjjONsnrWG
 
It's becoming quite notorious in the lawyer side of the world.

Right, my bad. Does that make them prosecution, then? Or does that term apply in a civil case?

Either way, though, my point remains -- just lock me away.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

qjWUWdm.gif1edr1cF.gif0g9jaoG.gifuWt4fLV.gif


#50 Dave Zero1

Dave Zero1
  • Citizen
  • 2639 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 05 August 2019 - 02:09 PM

Ironbite-it's basically declaring him a piece of shit and there's nothing he can sue for.

 
This statement is defamatory and false
because Mr. Mignogna is not a piece of shit (that is another name for feces, thus it
is impossible for him to be a "piece of shit")

I beg to differ, Mr. Mignogna can be eaten, digested then defecated and thus become a literal piece of shit.

#51 Xellos

Xellos

    Go Home Club

  • Citizen
  • 1482 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Earth
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 05 August 2019 - 02:41 PM

I had to look up his Wikipedia page because I have no idea who he is, but damn his list of credits is long.  What is it with anime dubbing that they basically hire the same 5 people to do all of them?

No. 6 people..
Well, while, like many industries of its type, it is very competitive, but it also helps to be local, available, and be good and quick at your job, which is why there are scores of people you hear all the time. Especially now with the simuldub, they are doing a massive amount of more shows in shorter times than the 00's and early 10's, so they need reliability. Also, there have been a bunch of new or lesser used voices that are leads or all over the place now, too.

One of my favorite things was trying to guess voices before looking them up. Much easier to find the info online now when compared to the times I thought that Steve Blum was the alias of David Lucas, and not vice-versa.
"Cry Havoc, and let slip the perspicacious death paw equipped cat girls of war!" - Hououin Kyouma - Steins;Gate

#52 Kalidor

Kalidor

    »\_(ツ)_/»

  • Owner
  • 60887 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Cannonball's Pirate Crew

Posted 05 August 2019 - 04:14 PM

 

I had to look up his Wikipedia page because I have no idea who he is, but damn his list of credits is long.  What is it with anime dubbing that they basically hire the same 5 people to do all of them?  

No. 6 people..

 

 

Well, NOW it's 5. 



#53 Echowarrior

Echowarrior

    I write stuff...just not as much as I used to.

  • Citizen
  • 11204 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Indianapolis
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 05 August 2019 - 09:16 PM

...it's okay to still enjoy the stuff he worked on, right? I mean, I won't be down on anyone who disliked anything Mignogna's taken part in - we're all allowed to like or dislike a given fictional work - but FMA:Brotherhood's one of my favorite anime titles, and I don't want to disavow it simply because of accusations or worse against the lead VA.


William Rendfeld
That Echowarrior guy...
Author of "Transformers: Armada (Revisited)"- Allspark Fic of the Month for December 2005. Archive here.
"In matters of style, swim with the current. In matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Credited to Thomas Jefferson.
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Credited to Winston Churchill.

#54 Chimp Sausage

Chimp Sausage

    The meat that will save us all

  • Supporter
  • 4826 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Unsanitary Meat-packing Plant
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:10 PM

eWyGDWr.png

Macross dub: Hikaru was voiced by Vic, Misa by Rial. This is the only thing I know those two from, so this screenshot is amazing.

#55 Chimp Sausage

Chimp Sausage

    The meat that will save us all

  • Supporter
  • 4826 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Unsanitary Meat-packing Plant
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 05 August 2019 - 10:13 PM

...it's okay to still enjoy the stuff he worked on, right? I mean, I won't be down on anyone who disliked anything Mignogna's taken part in - we're all allowed to like or dislike a given fictional work - but FMA:Brotherhood's one of my favorite anime titles, and I don't want to disavow it simply because of accusations or worse against the lead VA.


Dude, I still watch The Cosby Show. It's okay. Don't let internet warriors ruin your enjoyment. It's not condoning the actor's behavior.

#56 unluckiness

unluckiness

    We must kung-fu fight!

  • Citizen
  • 21173 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Philippines
  • Faction::Minicon

Posted 06 August 2019 - 01:12 AM

Alright, I've seen enough. Full disclosure: I'm not a lawyer. I am a medical doctor by profession and before that, I was a psychologist. In both these fields I worked in, I was trained to do two things: first, listen to the patient's story and work with that in mind but confirm it through other means. Second: even when spoonfed information, do your own research. I've said this upthread but I don't bother with dubs except Dragon Ball and I quit because they were too damn slow. I only knew Vic Mignona as the Edward doll in comedy skits on Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged series. No, I am not taking his side because I disagree with yours, and don't call me Stan.  

 

I've already expressed doubt that this guy could get away with his so long and with only the "open secret" that was floating around. I agree with the other posters that pointed out that there are many reasons for this but it's unusual nevertheless. That said, I dug into the affidavits that Detour helpfully provided over a couple of lunchbreaks. Unfortunately, when I asked some questions about the contents therein in this very thread, I  was not answered so I decided to look into this myself.

 

I found it unusual that Denbow's affidavit only referred to what Vic did as "inappropriate conduct." Funimation and one of the victims in the affidavit are already being sued here, they have no reason to dance around this topic and by stating outright what Vic did and what convinced them that it was grounds for firing, they could have gotten the case tossed right then and there. But apparently, the case is still on. Unusual but not too out of the ordinary. As I read through them, I realize two things: this guy is a creep and that the opposition, regardless of how incompetent I was told they were would have filed affidavits of their own. I am maybe a half step up from a boomer when it comes to technology so I only had Google and Duckduckgo to go on so I do a little digging. 

 

Soon after I began looking through the results, I realize that both Vic and two of the defendants, Rial and Toy, have already undergone deposition and video of all of them was available online, which would have been handy to know beforehand. It turns out, Monica's story was that Vic lured her to his room, threw her on a bed and attempted to rape her. Thankfully, she was saved by a convention employee Stan Dahlin, who knocked on the door in the nick of time. This would surely be a slam dunk for the defence but looking through the Googledocs folder, there was no affidavit from the guy. Shit happens, maybe their counsel couldn't track the guy down or he wanted nothing to do with the case. Nope, it turns out that Stan did file an affidavit of his own. For Vic's lawyers.

VJEE1YB.jpg

Courtesy of Stan's Twitter, he says that he doesn't remember such an incident. 

 

Some people on Stan's twitter dug up that Faisal Ahmed, somebody who submitted an affidavit, has a record of falsely filing reports.

https://drive.google...uFEwfLEt5T-QTGA

It is, how you would say, "not a good look."

 

The affidavit from the twins is one of the more serious incidents it seems. They appear to have locked their twitters down so I can't verify anything but Tweeters have found that the twins at one point lived with Rial and Toy. Again, doesn't mean that the twins story is false but another raised eyebrow from me. One of the twins even worked at the same company Toye does, Tuttle Group which as it turns out also has the fiance of the other defendant, Marchi as a shareholder. Most damningly, it turns out, Toye was using sponsorship from this company as leverage over a convention as shown by leaked texts from knowyourmeme of all places.

https://imgur.com/HJVnHZ0

Oh yeah, this wasn't just a defamation case now, was it? I dunno what tortoise interference is but this I do know convincing people to break contracts is illegal. Dunno what happened there since it looks like Vic attended with no incident anyway. Why would a mortgage company care about japanese cartoons? It doesn't make any sense.

 

Aside from this, the shit comment upthread also piqued my interest since it's playground-level behavior at best. Surely nobody who passed the Bar in any country would be so petty. As it turns out, this was a response to one of Toye's tweets that the plaintiff is suing him for. One of 400 tweets that Vic's counsel took the time to respond to and refute each and every one of in a legal document. A bit excessive, but hey, splitting hairs is what lawyers do. And if these incompetent bozos who are mad their client is called poo can find a person that could make or break the case for either side, what does that say about the defendant's counsel?

 

Lastly, Paladin posted on the first page of this thread about how there was video of Vic flirting with a five year-old. Surely if that were the case, he'd be either locked up or the one on trial now. Twitter, and by extension, Youtube delivers though, here it is.

At about 9:20-9:30. He was on stage acting as a host in a costume contest of sorts making a lame joke in front of a room full of people.

 

It is clear that this situation is not as cut and dried as either side wants the public to believe, with a lot of crap the public is not privy to. None of this information adds up. He's probably not innocent; there's too much smoke to not be any fire, but this is a shitshow and I want no part in it. The third thing my vocation has taught me is that when you don't know, call a specialist so I say leave it to the courts to sort out. 

 

Why did I do this? Why did I waste 4-5 hours of my 80-hour work week looking this up when I barely know the guy and don't even watch dubs? There are three things I cannot stand: misrepresenting what I say, condescension and especially people thinking that they can pull one over me. This thread has all three, so call me petty, arrogant or whatever for doing this out of spite but hell, I already did the legwork so may as well put this up. Hey, maybe I can qualify as a pulitzer nominee now, seeing as all it apparently takes nowadays is digging through 140-character chunks of text and a handful of legal documents. Or do I not qualify because I don't have pictures of people involved in the case voguing?  

 

Well done, anti-Vic crowd, you've not only convinced me that your side condones hiding and covering for sexual predators until you don't but also possibly have reckless disregard for the truth, are actively concealing parts of it or are actively out to deceive, even if there is truth in there somewhere. Vic is definitely a creep but I want nothing to do with your ilk either.

 

Also, I looked into the Threadnought. Things just get lost in the jumble of reaction GIFs and replies and I couldn't make sense of it. Dude should maybe consider getting a blog instead. 


Edited by unluckiness, 06 August 2019 - 01:18 AM.

XgxCpmP.png


#57 Ironbite

Ironbite

    TIME JUDGED ALL!

  • Supporter
  • 29901 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Between the cracks in your wall
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 06 August 2019 - 03:08 AM

Awwww....you're adorable. And you still don't get it.

Ironbite-at all

xC9l3eY.gif


#58 unluckiness

unluckiness

    We must kung-fu fight!

  • Citizen
  • 21173 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Philippines
  • Faction::Minicon

Posted 06 August 2019 - 03:47 AM

Yeah, I freely admit that I don't get IT. Why would a primordial evil dress up like a clown, or even take a physical form at all? And the book was creepy in the bad way. The first movie was good and second looks promising but I probably won't be able to see it in theaters.  

 

But man, what if there were a way for people to communicate information to others that wasn't just driveby passive-aggression? Dude, that sure would make the job of getting IT easier.


Edited by unluckiness, 06 August 2019 - 04:11 AM.

XgxCpmP.png


#59 HellCat

HellCat
  • Citizen
  • 29756 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 06 August 2019 - 04:19 AM

I don't specifically side with unluckiness but this thread arguing this totally isn't trial by internet is only making the case for this being...trial by internet.

Over in the video review thread people are hating on Doug Walker. When I was heavily critical of him based on my own read just a few years ago, some now all too happy to hate on him were the ones telling me to lay off, I had a problem.

Personally I don't think Vic is innocent. But the mood in this thread only really says the internet loves a bandwagon.

#60 unluckiness

unluckiness

    We must kung-fu fight!

  • Citizen
  • 21173 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Philippines
  • Faction::Minicon

Posted 06 August 2019 - 04:30 AM

I'm not even saying Vic is innocent. I'm saying hat there's so many things about this case that raise more questions. If I were to hazard a guess, the inconsistencies are there to reduce the legal liability on the enabler's part. 

 

The way I understand it it, Vic already brought this affair to court. Either he loses the case and subsequently gets exposed and destroyed in a criminal court or Funimation and its voice actors get eaten by the monster who by their own admission they created and allowed to roam free but who is then rendered radioactive for the industry. I don't need to take a side in this and even if I did, it would not make a difference. I say let things play out.

 

Apparently, I'm not supposed to do this?

 

Is there a fourth choice? 

yw6bpc9.jpg

I swear, my moveset sucks. Don't put me in the game Nintendo.


Edited by unluckiness, 06 August 2019 - 04:41 AM.

XgxCpmP.png




Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users