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@  Rycochet : (17 January 2020 - 06:15 PM)

I both love and hate that the Alien franchise seems to have had more luck finding a niche as a line of children's toys than it has at producing worthwhile films.

@  Donocropolis : (17 January 2020 - 06:35 AM)

I've seen them on the shelves at Walmart. They're pretty great looking retro Aliens toys. https://www.walmart....-Vary/934039489

@  fourteenwings : (17 January 2020 - 01:11 AM)

IIRC somebody on here mentioned an unbranded Alien toy a couple of weeks ago? It seems like it was actually part of a collection for the Alien movie series by Lanard. Mattel's making some stuff too.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 January 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Is it really a worse name than say, HMS Spanker?

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 January 2020 - 02:36 PM)

'Boaty McBoatface' was a actual thing?! Wow.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 January 2020 - 02:00 PM)

Might be worth bringing back this thread.

@  ThunderWear : (14 January 2020 - 01:53 PM)

Of course I had the idea to download all the pdfs like a week too late. Anyone got an archive?

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 January 2020 - 12:48 PM)

The Collector Club is dead. Seems like it all came down shortly after New Year

@  ThunderWear : (13 January 2020 - 11:06 PM)

I can't get to the collector club website. anyone else? I was literally going to download all the fiction to finish reading.

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 January 2020 - 04:50 AM)

News today is all 'there's a CHANCE it would snow in July' and 'dogs COULD bite back'.

@  Benbot : (12 January 2020 - 10:05 PM)

Holy crap, do many people get hurt by them?

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2020 - 02:11 PM)

Even in fallout, they never carpet bombed with nukes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 January 2020 - 12:43 PM)

I hope the stockpiled nuclear weapons of the US and Russia are accounted for then.

@  Nevermore : (12 January 2020 - 12:22 PM)

Geez. 1760 (!) bombs from World War II that had not detonated and were still armed have been found. That's only the numbers for the federal state of Germany I live in, and only for the first three quarters of 2019. For all of 2018, the total number was 2811 (!!) bombs.

@  CVReynolds : (11 January 2020 - 11:05 PM)

I've been wanting a Tarantulas that turns into a more realistic tarantula for a long time. Maybe Takara will someday do a Masterpiece, which would be neat. But I really want to see a modernized look like in the IDW comics.

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We need more Waspinators.. and rattraps.

@  Ashley : (11 January 2020 - 07:09 PM)

I'm on board with that

@  Dekafox : (11 January 2020 - 06:17 PM)

What I'm hearing is we need Cyberverse Waspinator

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 January 2020 - 01:27 AM)

He's appeared across more branding changes than Waspinator, so maybe it's more the other way around.

@  Ashley : (10 January 2020 - 12:01 AM)

is C3PO the Waspinator of Star Wars? he'll live forever, because it's funny for him to suffer

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He's still waiting for them to be funny.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 January 2020 - 10:35 PM)

Why?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 January 2020 - 04:02 PM)

I've been watching South Park, Family Guy and The Simpsons with a straight face for a decade now.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 January 2020 - 03:18 PM)

If that's what it takes to get you to take the medication, sure.

@  Bass X0 : (09 January 2020 - 01:52 PM)

If I go crazy, will you still call me Superman?

@  fourteenwings : (09 January 2020 - 11:37 AM)

I mean, it is easier to protect HDDs, and you can retransfer the data over and over forever?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 January 2020 - 10:45 AM)

Not in this comparison. He's making his own files, so they're (presumably) not restricted by DRM, so he can copy them as many times as he wants. It's potentially more reliable in the long term than hoping the specific copies you originally bought never accrue any damage for the rest of your life.

@  Echowarrior : (09 January 2020 - 10:44 AM)

I prefer physical copies too. Easier to protect something physical and tangible.

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 January 2020 - 09:55 AM)

I prefer having physical copies.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 January 2020 - 08:56 AM)

I have plenty of physical media I turn into digital media for my plex server. Just finished ripping Ultra Seven

@  fourteenwings : (09 January 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Isn't the general consensus that we're supposed to be over physical media anyways?

@  Paladin : (09 January 2020 - 08:17 AM)

i still don't own a Blu-Ray player.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 January 2020 - 07:35 AM)

My current TV works just fine. I don't see a need to upgrade. And by the time I do, the Next Big Thing will probably be out anyway.

@  Benbot : (09 January 2020 - 03:58 AM)

Me neither. I'm no rebel, though. I'm just poor.

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 January 2020 - 03:38 AM)

I haven't gone 4K yet, I'm a rebel.

@  Ashley : (07 January 2020 - 11:50 PM)

the comic theme is amazing

@  Bass X0 : (07 January 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Sounds like Victor Caroli but I’m not sure.

@  Bass X0 : (07 January 2020 - 02:35 PM)

Should I recognise the narrator of the Mutant Hunt trailer?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 January 2020 - 04:30 AM)

I got me Titans Return Blaster, now watch them unveil Earthrise Blaster and Generations Perceptor, a retool of Titans Blaster.

@  ThunderWear : (06 January 2020 - 10:22 PM)

I recently switched to to the comic theme here at the Allspark and I'm so happy I just want to look at it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (06 January 2020 - 08:12 AM)

Can you not take so many lines to say anything?

@  fourteenwings : (06 January 2020 - 07:47 AM)

Iunno, maybe people having unique pronunciations of things re:how they understand language makes the world a more colourful place, rather than one where we correct every seemingly grievous error?

@  Nevermore : (06 January 2020 - 06:12 AM)

Others insist on "Michael Yackson".

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Because the very combination of those sounds is unknown to them, and thus they avoid it as if it were contagious.

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For example, the English "J" sound consists of sounds that exist in German: Basically, it's just a "d" sound followed by a very soft "sh". Yet there are many Germans who insist on calling the late King of Pop "Michael Checkson".

@  Nevermore : (06 January 2020 - 05:58 AM)

I'm talking about names that should pe easily pronouncable if you just bothered to pay attention to how it's done correctly instead of insisting on "I speak X language and this is how I prounounce it!"

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I'm not even talking about foreign names that have sounds that don't exist in the speaker's language.

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Something that really irks me is when people are persistently ignorant about the correct pronunciation of foreign names, especially when it's people they either admire or frequently interact with on a daily basis.

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The ongoing destruction of Vic Mignogna's career.


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#21 Detour

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 03:13 AM

This guy voices over for Japanese cartoons, I highly doubt he can pull a Cosby or Weinstein. 

Oh, sure, on the VA aspect it might be low on the totem pole.

 

But anime is big. And anime VO guests is big business for conventions.

And most of his predatory practices happened to take place AT CONVENTIONS.

 

Put it together, mate.

 

 

Funimation terminated his contract after an INTERNAL INVESTIGATION.


Edited by Detour, 04 August 2019 - 03:14 AM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 03:35 AM

He is allegedly a predator, indiscriminately preying on convention-goers, yet for almost two decades no victims, no parents, no security, no hotel staff, no coworkers, no convention staff and no convention owners filed a report with the police or even with convention security for any of this? As many attendees a famous voice actor would bring in, a known sexual predator would drive away, especially one so apparently notorious. Not to mention legal liability. Maybe one or two cons maybe if he only recently became popular, maybe if he was chummy with a con organizer or two. But two decades in dozens of conventions held by different companies, all over the world? That's not exactly much better than the corkboard you posted.

 

And what exactly did the INTERNAL INVESTIGATION say? 

 

Call me a skeptic but something stinks here. On both sides of the fence.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 03:55 AM

And what exactly did the INTERNAL INVESTIGATION say?

Let's ask the person who directed it!

https://drive.google...DHXnP0-QZZx0os-

 

And let's also check in with the VP of Operations at Funimation while we're at it!

https://drive.google...DHXnP0-QZZx0os-

 

Really love it how Mangina's lawyers are so out of their depths, they decided to sue Funimation itself for defamation!

We wouldn't have all this otherwise. His own lawsuit is helping make the case against him.

 

(is the whole of not only Funimation but its parent company Sony Pictures Entertainment also in on the conspiracy?)


Check the drive. It's loaded with affidavits, depositions, letters, court filings, court transcripts....

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You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 04:20 AM

It doesn't say what the findings were nor what he allegedly did. Just that one HR person thought it was grounds for firing and to be frank, I've never met any competent HR people.

 

Vice President says that, yes, we did fire him. Brilliant. So we know that he did get fired.

 

Look man, I don't even watch any dubs but Dragon Ball and I quit because they were more than a year behind. All this says to me is the US dub industry is full of predators, predator enablers or liars so hug them all, I'm sticking to subs. Even with Goku's granny voice. 


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 04:38 AM

Surely we as a society are now past "if it was a real thing they should have complained sooner".

"Guy does creepy shit for decades without facing consequences" is hardly shocking news. At this point, to imagine there's a conspiracy or a vendetta is bizarre. Which is not to say that every claim is automatically legitimate or that an appropriate and thorough investigation shouldn't be conducted before we denounce him as Satan, but really... there's some weird woman-hating "save the man" shit going on here.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 04:39 AM

I do not get this accusation of Monica being jealous about a role. I hardly think she was going "Yeah, I could play Broly!"

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 04:48 AM

Surely we as a society are now past "if it was a real thing they should have complained sooner".

"Guy does creepy shit for decades without facing consequences" is hardly shocking news. At this point, to imagine there's a conspiracy or a vendetta is bizarre. Which is not to say that every claim is automatically legitimate or that an appropriate and thorough investigation shouldn't be conducted before we denounce him as Satan, but really... there's some weird woman-hating "save the man" shit going on here.

Being skeptical of apparently hundreds of victims over three decades all over the world with not even a slap on the wrist on record, no emails, no texts for a guy who voices niche Japanese cartoons is not woman-hating. Letting the courts and not Twitter sort things out is not woman hating. Treating women as human beings who misremember, make mistakes or lie is not woman hating. Get over yourself.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 05:37 AM

Mignogna's behavior was an open secret for years. Conventions knew about it and warned volunteers. Coworkers knew about it. Contemporaries knew about it. That there are (seemingly) no victims is a testament to the dedication and vigilance of those who took the warning flags seriously and kept Vic on a leash.

 

But simply because there (seemingly) were no victims doesn't mean that Mignogna is somehow blameless for his actions or should not have been let go. You can hire a known Pyromaniac to work in a fuel refinery, and they can work there for many years without having actually set a fire, but sooner or later you just aren't going to want to deal with the hassle of worrying whether or not they WILL, when there are plenty of people out there that can do the same job and not even think about watching the place burn.

 

In the end, Mignogna's handlers were fed up with constantly dodging bullets and put him out to pasture.



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Posted 04 August 2019 - 06:37 AM

Surely we as a society are now past "if it was a real thing they should have complained sooner".

"Guy does creepy shit for decades without facing consequences" is hardly shocking news. At this point, to imagine there's a conspiracy or a vendetta is bizarre. Which is not to say that every claim is automatically legitimate or that an appropriate and thorough investigation shouldn't be conducted before we denounce him as Satan, but really... there's some weird woman-hating "save the man" shit going on here.

Being skeptical of apparently hundreds of victims over three decades all over the world with not even a slap on the wrist on record, no emails, no texts for a guy who voices niche Japanese cartoons is not woman-hating. Letting the courts and not Twitter sort things out is not woman hating. Treating women as human beings who misremember, make mistakes or lie is not woman hating. Get over yourself.
There are plenty of cases of people who've managed to do these sort of things without any allegations going far enough to trigger a prosecution... John K of Ren and Stimpy fame groomed underaged girls and he effectively got away with it. It was well known in his industry, he's all but admitted it and his victims have too.

There are a whole load of reasons victims don't file complaints with the police, being afraid having every detail of their personal lives put out in the open, being publicly destroyed by his fans, being afraid the police would take his side because of how they dressed, or because the were warned about him. Fear of repercussions, being laughed at or dismissed has stopped people coming forward about a great many crimes involving people who've later been convicted of other assaults, look at how long Bill Cosby got away with it.

I won't accuse you of woman hating, but let's not pretend that victims not coming forward and going to the police is somehow a big red flag that they may be liars or mistaken somehow.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 07:19 AM

This makes me think of 15 to 20 years ago when the guy who did the USA Dragonball Z music used to tell people that to try to get women to come talk to him / try to lure them to his hotel room. Or at least that was my impression of what he was doing.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 07:50 AM

First I should maybe clarify that when I said there was "woman-hating going on here" I wasn't necessarily pinning that on anyone in this thread, more on the actual drivers of the Save Poor Vic campaign.

Being skeptical of apparently hundreds of victims over three decades all over the world with not even a slap on the wrist on record, no emails, no texts for a guy who voices niche Japanese cartoons is not woman-hating.

Assuming that every complaint is fabricated isn't fantastic though.

Letting the courts and not Twitter sort things out is not woman hating.

No, obviously. And as I said, that's how this should go. The process shouldn't be driven by a bunch of gross dudes who don't want to see women standing up.

Treating women as human beings who misremember, make mistakes or lie is not woman hating. Get over yourself.

Characterising a significant group of accusers as all remembering wrong, making mistakes or lying doesn't seem like a great look to me.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:22 AM

Assuming that every complaint is fabricated isn't fantastic though.

My assumption is the guy is skeevy and with a record that is not at all clean. Hell, his fiance pretty much laid that out. But being a horndog is not synonymous with being a pedophile and a rapist. Those accusations are farmore heinous and ruinous to one's reputation and have yet to be proven.  

 

 

No, obviously. And as I said, that's how this should go. The process shouldn't be driven by a bunch of gross dudes who don't want to see women standing up. 

It shouldn't be driven by a social media mob either.

 

 

Characterising a significant group of accusers as all remembering wrong, making mistakes or lying doesn't seem like a great look to me. 

Denial of somebody's right to innocence until proven guilty is an even worse look. Harboring somebody you know is a rapist and a predator is even worse than that. I'll change my mind when they dig up evidence of what they're actually accusing him of.

 

My rejection of this movement is because at the best case scenario for the industry, it tolerates or even protects predators to make a buck. The defendants in this case are every bit as scummy, albeit in a different way and I'm not tossing my lot in with either side of this for that reason.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:44 AM

Is it really innocent until proven guilty when practically everyone in this man's circle has admitted it was a known red flag? When the man's lawyers have confirmed it as such?

 

Even when he's not done anything, employers have a right to not want to deal with that bag of snakes.



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Posted 04 August 2019 - 08:48 AM

In America? Yes, it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunatly in this age of social media more and more things are being decided in the court of public opinion.

For criminal court. The rules are different for civil court.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 03:53 PM

Oh good Vic Stans here as well.

 

Look, Unluckiness and Sukoshiko, I understand how this feels.  Big betrayal right?  But guys, I take a look at the evidence, I take a look at the affidavits of those that have been entered in testimony and I can come to only one conclusion.  Vic is Hugged.

 

Ironbite-massively hugged.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 04:32 PM

~Both sides~

And other such horse shit so the usual crowd can feign ignorance and clean hands.

Gee gosh mister why would victims come out sooner when they were even more isolated and less believed in the past? The people immediately assuming they're lying, misremembering or acting in bad faith couldn't possibly have anything to do with that.

True story time. I was emotionally abused by a family friend and mentor, a church elder, with a track record of this that was an open secret. I suffered years of suicidal ideation from this and still have extreme anxiety and self worth problems.

I actually DID tell someone. Know what happened? I was told I had it wrong, I was overreacting and then had to be lectured BY MY ABUSER cause they went to them to talk it over. So I stopped telling ANYONE. It was more than a decade later before my mother, the person I'd told about the abuse, saw it in person happen to my nephew. THEN she believed me and couldn't apologize enough. But you know what happened when she went to the other church leaders about it?

Guess. It's funny. Nothing. Not a hugging thing. She was... overreacting, misremembering and you know the rest. This church elder on question then gave a hugging public speech to the congregation about respecting the church and knowing your appropriate role while staring down my mother the entire time.

My mother left that church that night and never went back. Last I heard he'd been promoted to the head of the congregation. I know at least 3 other families with similar stories. One of whom literally moved from the area to get away from him.

Abusers get defended all the time. They get away with it all the time. Pretending like thats proof that something doesn't add up is idiotic.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 04:40 PM

Ive only heard of Vic as a doll in Yugioh Abridged since like I said earlier in this thread, I dont bother with dubs. Ive asked questions about those the content of those affidavits in this thread and was ignored and accused. So kindly take the condescending attitude and labels and shove it.

Neither the plaintiff or the defences version of the stories add up to what they want me to believe so screw both of them. Something stinks here and its not just your attitude

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 04:51 PM

Oh boy you're both siding here.

 

Ironbite-come on man, be better then this.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 05:09 PM

It's odd; I've watched DBZ since I was a teenager, and most of you know how big a Trek nut I am (though admittedly I've never seen Star Trek Continues, despite touring the recreation of the TOS sets it actually used for filming a couple years back), but I've never heard of this guy. I've never really been one to follow celebrities or their personal lives that closely, though, not even those I highly respect.

 

It's a shame how many "open secrets" there seem to be as far as the behavior of certain celebrities go, and how many people are apparently willing to tolerate it for the sake of making a bit more money. I guess you need power to counter power, though, and generally our society chooses the wrong people to give power to. The people most likely to be principled enough to take a stand against these people are also the most likely people to have no power, no authority within organizations like studios or big conventions, and little to no wealth.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 05:37 PM

Thats the thing i find most unpleasantly sad. That this kind of 'open secret' was merely tolerated and 'dealt with'.

If the truth comes out and he is unquestionably guilty, then he should pay for it. It is just kindof concerning that this only came out once Vic was back in the limelight because of Broly.

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