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@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 07:43 PM)

@Fenix Twilight Sure. Just not a good one.

@  Fenix Twilight : (25 October 2020 - 04:02 PM)

@Sukoshiko Well his clothes left an impression on you didn't they?

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 October 2020 - 06:09 AM)

I just read "Tesla Cybertruck" like AC/DC's "Thunderstruck", now it won't get out of my head, so I inflict it on all of you as well.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Tesla Cybertruck: amazing or just silly looking? I can't decide.

@  Sukoshiko : (25 October 2020 - 12:24 AM)

Weird question: I had to deal with a guy today... I'm not exactly up on modern fashions... or even archaic fashions... But this guy... Tuxedo Jacket and shirt, studs in all the button holes except the bottom one, blue jeans, and cowboy boots... Take a moment to imagine that get up. And this was to a business meeting, trying to impress someone. What look is that? Who on earth would dress that way? (I mean on purpose)

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:04 PM)

I think the few up here were lost to bad placement, poor weather, and the usual language trap.

@  TM2-Megatron : (24 October 2020 - 04:25 PM)

There are 5 spread around southwestern Ontario, all run by the same company. I've only been to the one in my area, but it seems to do good business even in non-pandemic times. On long weekends, when they do triple features, there's a normally a lineup to get in Friday and Saturday nights

@  Telly : (24 October 2020 - 01:51 PM)

there been one outside of my town for as long as ive been alive at least. its gone through its share of owners and periods of being closed down, but its been open for the past decade at least

@  Otaku : (24 October 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Bias from personal experience, but drive-in theaters are nearly extinct.  I grew up near one but it went out of business in the late 80s, and was torn down and replaced with some other business by the early 90s.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 07:47 AM)

Out here, I mean. Couldn't comment on their popularity in place where they actually exist.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 October 2020 - 06:44 AM)

I wouldn't know. They've only come back into vogue with the social distancing from the plague, and while some places have made an effort to shoestring the places together, it's all largely too distant to be accessible.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:46 PM)

I'd hate to see ours replaced by condos. They're a great way to spend an evening, whether with family or on a date. And they've never been as common in Canada as the US, so we cna't afford to lose as many

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:45 PM)

Largely they were either poorly placed or bought out and torn down to be replaced by something other than over priced short term parking. Mostly condos.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:14 PM)

I guess your winters are worse, so they have a shorter operating season. Drive-ins in the Toronto area can usually operate until early or mid-December; maybe even into early January if there's no real snowfall, and open up again sometime in March.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 09:13 PM)

THere's really only 1 left in the entire province?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Ha! It's probably faster for me to drive to your drive in than to make my way to the only one left in quebec.

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Fortunately we still have a drive-in theatre that's exempt from the closures about a 10 minute drive away

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 October 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Theatres around here are closed again for at least another couple weeks (wouldn't be surprised if it's extended by another month or so, either), but that's what they've been doing here as well. Playing the old classics

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 October 2020 - 02:36 PM)

I got Earthrise Megatron, he's better then I thought he'd be though Netflix Megatron is still tops.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:44 AM)

The original Rocky movie is also showing. May go next weekend. That’s how you get people back in the theatres - show the old classics every adult loves.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2020 - 10:35 AM)

They did a limited run showing of it up here too, back when the theaters were open... red zones suck.

@  Bass X0 : (23 October 2020 - 10:13 AM)

The original Back To The Future is showing in the Odeon in the UK now. I think I will go see it tomorrow.

@  Donocropolis : (23 October 2020 - 05:51 AM)

It was either the Bumblebee or Cliffjumper. Can't remember the colors.

@  Kalidor : (22 October 2020 - 06:43 PM)

What did it look like?

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 01:34 PM)

I swear I remember getting the Happymeal G1 minibot as a child, but I live 2.5 hours from St. Louis, which is the only place they apparently came out. It's possible that I got it on a family vacation, though, as we went to Six Flags pretty often.

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 October 2020 - 01:07 PM)

Conversely, I had the Gobot helicopter from Wendy's and I was absolutely convinced it was an actual Transformer.

@  Donocropolis : (22 October 2020 - 08:13 AM)

I used to rubber-band Hot-Wheels style construction vehicles together and pretend it was Devestator.

@  Bass X0 : (21 October 2020 - 05:26 PM)

When I was about four years old, my parents bought me Bugbite and tried to tell me it was Bumblebee. I was not yet a fan of Transformers, but I knew that wasn't Bumblebee. I didn't even have the real Bumblebee at that time.

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 October 2020 - 01:39 PM)

It would come with two soundtracks: the eighties classic and one featuring dubstep and the VAs are popular Youtubers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 12:13 PM)

But yeah, reading it: I came off as a bit of an ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:52 AM)

I just couldn't think of worse music than disco...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 11:35 AM)

What were you trying to imply with the mocking sarcasm, though? Nobody suggested that '80s music was any more "of it's time" than '70s music.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 11:18 AM)

I said that disco wouldn't fare much better with the same context: media is property of it's time; biases, culture and limitations are all inherent in that. Some stuff can be brought forward because of an inherently timeless nature or the simplicity with which it was made but lots of media is a time capsule of the period of when it was made.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 08:46 AM)

I'm not sure what you're trying to imply, or what you even think I said.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2020 - 08:11 AM)

Yeah, cause disco would make the transition so much better...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 October 2020 - 07:17 AM)

I feel the '80s music would be jarring when running over current-day CGI instead of well, '80s visuals.

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 October 2020 - 05:39 AM)

Not a remake, reanimated scene for scene, like that fan vid titled they were always real to me.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2020 - 04:37 AM)

Because we need more remakes these days.

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 October 2020 - 01:36 AM)

Be a hoot if these Studio Series 86 toys led to Transformers The Move Reanimated like Pokemon Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution.

@  Paladin : (20 October 2020 - 05:15 PM)

only takes three pounds to be a cereal killer.

@  Kalidor : (20 October 2020 - 04:54 PM)

5 pounds is a lot of cereal! /deadpan

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 October 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Seems the area near my work place is due to be gentrified. Electric car ports, fifty pound haircuts and five pound bowls of cereal in breakfast cafes I'll bet.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 October 2020 - 11:31 PM)

@ZakuConvoy Lumines Electric Symphony. So still halfway interesting, and it’ll play on the PS TV

@  Demovere Xeno : (19 October 2020 - 10:36 PM)

@Maximus: I paired the Battle Patrol with Ironworks and they look good together, though the Off Road Patrol would probably fit best as vehicles you're likely to find at a construction site.

@  ZakuConvoy : (19 October 2020 - 09:39 PM)

So...was it something like Tearaway or Gravity Rush or was it just a FIFA or a Madden?

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2020 - 08:26 PM)

Sounds like they need to clean more often.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 October 2020 - 06:51 PM)

From the depths of Walmart's backroom comes...a Playstation Vita game in 2020?

@  Telly : (19 October 2020 - 02:20 PM)

and my bow

@  Donocropolis : (19 October 2020 - 11:49 AM)

<GIMLI> And my axe! </GIMLI>

@  Donocropolis : (19 October 2020 - 11:47 AM)

He's got my vote!


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#41 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 07:56 PM

I am dutifully impressed.

Though between the panel-popping and how you have to use arm-shuddering excessive force to split the legs out of planet mode....

Maybe the perfect spherical Unicron just can't exist?

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Posted 07 September 2019 - 08:03 PM

...I think I really want this thing. That transformation and robot mode do more for me than the HasLab version, and I like the size. Gonna come down to the price to fully win me over.



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Posted 08 September 2019 - 05:32 AM

Wonderful design! Several "That's really neat!" moments. Had to kill the sound a few minutes- that music.


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Posted 08 September 2019 - 01:02 PM

I am dutifully impressed.

Though between the panel-popping and how you have to use arm-shuddering excessive force to split the legs out of planet mode....

Maybe the perfect spherical Unicron just can't exist?

 

I think the problem doesn't lie in the shape of the final form but how they excute the transformation, this and the Hasbro verisons both involve a lot of panels to be moved about because they are trying to recreate the G1 movie desgin while the Armada desgin kept things simple, besides there is no such thing as prefection because if there was than there would not be a need to keep redesgining things over and over again, good example MP OP, he had what at least three verisons offically all based on his G1 desgin!


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Posted 08 September 2019 - 04:38 PM

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 05:46 PM

I get the impression Haslab Unicron ultimately ended up being hampered by the desire to keep the arms as the equator and transform "like in the movie".

Everything about this Zeta Unicron pushes my buttons. Sure its got fiddly bits, but for that much more of a cleaner bot mode, I can live with it. Also those proportions are throroughly lovely. Its kind of a shame this also feels more toyetic than the official one.

Hopefully the photoshopped colors at the end are closer to what it'll end up with, those feel more "right" to me than the teal and color of strained peaches of Haslab.

Edited by Confuzor, 08 September 2019 - 05:47 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:35 PM

I get the impression Haslab Unicron ultimately ended up being hampered by the desire to keep the arms as the equator and transform "like in the movie".

 

I agree on that fact, but then I think what the Haslab one could really benefit from it becoming more a shell former, just have the shell parts removable to give it a much cleaner look but then back in the 80s, I don't think when they were making the scene where Unicron transforms, anyone thought that someone would attempt to copy the transformation and make it a toy, let alone the biggest Transformer toy EVER!!!


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Posted 09 September 2019 - 10:33 AM

Transformation video. Much less shellforming than i expected. Very very impressed. Think I'm in.

 

Comes with a second open planet mouth and energy beam effect that combine into a stand, ab crunch, opening mouth, eye LEDs, diecast side toes and shoulder joints.

 

Wow. That is very impressive. It makes a much cleaner robot design. Love how they did the collar and no huge turtle shell hanging off the back. Very impressed. 


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Posted 09 September 2019 - 12:10 PM

I wonder how many people are going to pull their support from the Haslab Unicron after seeing this.  If I actually cared about having a Unicron toy, this is the one I would get.



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Posted 09 September 2019 - 12:39 PM

At the moment, I'm not planning to pull my support from Haslab because it's big and official. But I will likely get this one too because it looks so much better. Love the engineering and how clean the robot mode is. I do hate the turtle shell on Haslab Unicron. 


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 09:04 AM

There's somehow room in my life (and house) for both this and the real deal.  My only real concerns about this are the planet deco at this point, since Zeta has a ton of experience with large scale combiners, so the joints should be fine.  And that Core Star has a unreleased G1 Unicron style LED in the top of his head for the planet maw makes me kind of giddy.


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:09 PM

Was it an LED?  I always figured it was lightpiping (making Unicron the first toy to have some).  But then, I've only ever seen photos.



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Posted 10 September 2019 - 11:17 PM

The test shot had a hole on the back of the head that the youtuber said was a battery compartment


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 12:00 AM

At the moment, I'm not planning to pull my support from Haslab because it's big and official. But I will likely get this one too because it looks so much better. Love the engineering and how clean the robot mode is. I do hate the turtle shell on Haslab Unicron. 

 

wont be long before we can an entire solar system made up only of unicrons!

 

i hope some of the floppiness of the panles and tightness of joints will be fixed on the final version. and does it come with a dinobot damaged ass?? that should be a no brainer

 

i think ill be getting this one. its bound to be cheaper, and the way the panels fold away is far more practical than hasbros. love how they hide away instead of just stack up on top of each other. looks like itll be easier to handle too. there is such a thing as a toy being too big, and i think hasbros is over that

 

sometimes practicality has to take precedence over coolness


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:29 AM

wont be long before we can an entire solar system made up only of unicrons!

 

Then I bet there is two things happening in that Solar system:

1. Primus likely s***ing himself over the fact there is so many Unicrons

2. Unicron's devouring each other to become the surpeme Unicron!


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 08:46 AM

Was it an LED?  I always figured it was lightpiping (making Unicron the first toy to have some).  But then, I've only ever seen photos.

Yeah, the Hasbro and Takara versions of G1 Unicron had Shockwave/Galvatron style 9v electronics inside, with lights inside the head that lit up the eyes and the top of the noggin a la G1 Galvatron, which was supposed to be tied into a electronic voice changer gimmick in the chest.  The button to activate it was his "belt buckle" of sorts.


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Posted 11 September 2019 - 07:10 PM

Man. HasTak should look at that video and think, "Why didn't we think of that?!"

 

I'm an admitted "official" apologist but there are so many things about this that are done better than Hasbro's. I think credit must also be given that they were obviously working on this at the same time as the official Unicron so they weren't just "improving" on something that had already been mostly figured out.

 

 

Given the recent MP-44 release, and other previous successes like managing to make the "impossible" Mainframe Dinobot character design a transformable model, I find it incredibly hard to believe that it comes down to "HasTak didn't think of it".

 

The reality of the matter is that the two companies had very different design goals in mind.  HasTak wanted to create the "iconic" Unicron: one that faithfully replicating the planet mode that was seen for the majority of TF:TM, and also approximates as best as possible his big transformation scene and recreating his arm transformation.  They also wanted him to top the charts as the biggest Transformers figure they'll ever make, which comes with its own engineering restrictions.  The HasTak toy is a dominant centrepiece in either mode, appropriately massive in both robot and planet modes.

 

ZetaToys' design is a more "purist" approach, and instead focuses almost exclusively on the robot mode, at the expense of the planet mode proportion and detail, and lacking any of the iconography of Unicron's big scene in the movie, for the sake of avoiding as much kibble as possible.  Their toy is significantly smaller that HasTak's, and can get away with engineering quirks that the larger toy cannot (I really can't imagine trying to support 20lbs of weight on Zeta's eggshell panel heel spikes).  The planet mode is positively tiny.

 

Neither approach is inherently right or wrong, just a byproduct of a character design that is utterly impossible to produce in a 100% accurate and faithful way, so creative liberties will always be in play.

 

For what it's worth, my favour still lies heavily with the HasLab version.  The gorgeous planet mode really puts it over the top for me, and while kibbly, the robot mode sells its presence much better.  It's not just about sheer size, but the intricacy of the surface detail also helps to sell his enormity.  He's also stylized employing forced-perspective techniques, with larger forearms and shins, that make him look more imposing.  While Zeta's version is largely accurate to what we see on screen, as a toy, it feels visually "weightless".  I simply don't get the impression that he's a robot the size of a planet, due to his lesser surface detail and "normal" proportions.  The Zeta toy also looks like a nightmare to transform.  He seems shellformer-y in the worst way, with the planet mode looking like a bunch of strung-together eggshell panels that all have to clip together just so, or they start caving in with little provocation.  I have a high tolerance for complicated, fiddly transformations, but the impression I'm getting is that this will be one of those especially frustrating ordeals, balancing the relative fragility of the eggshell panels contrasting the strength of the ratcheted joints (I'd be happy to be wrong, in this case).


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 02:24 PM



 



Man. HasTak should look at that video and think, "Why didn't we think of that?!"

 

I'm an admitted "official" apologist but there are so many things about this that are done better than Hasbro's. I think credit must also be given that they were obviously working on this at the same time as the official Unicron so they weren't just "improving" on something that had already been mostly figured out.

 

 

Given the recent MP-44 release, and other previous successes like managing to make the "impossible" Mainframe Dinobot character design a transformable model, I find it incredibly hard to believe that it comes down to "HasTak didn't think of it".

I know there's a whole rest of an essay there, but I'm just going to say that there's a big difference between, "didn't think of it" and "can't do it."  I just don't think it ever occurred to them to use this kind of odd symmetrical transformation scheme because they were probably already focused on some other element going in, whether it be "fully accurate planet" or "replicate arm transformation from film."  Basically, I think they already started with different design goals in mind that never led them towards a transformation like Zeta's.

 

I also kind of have to call you out on the "Zeta is a shellformer in the worst way" when the HasLab one is very much the same.  Like, we've seen the transformation video.  We know the ridiculous extent of the real deal's shellformer-ing.  It's basically a lateral move between the two.  I'm still in for both, but c'mon.


Edited by Spark, 12 September 2019 - 02:32 PM.

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Posted 12 September 2019 - 03:10 PM

Zeta Toys took down any mentioning of this figure from their Facebook page.

 

Still up on their Weibo.


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Posted 12 September 2019 - 03:37 PM

I'm wondering if Hasbro Asia sent them a C&D or something.


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