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@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 06:18 PM)

"Prowl". There, that's at least fifteen.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Or do you want people to spam the Squawkbox with lists of 100 characters?

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Oky, just one question: If I were to say "Yes, I could", how could you be sure I'm not lying?


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#81 Patch

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Posted 09 January 2020 - 01:13 PM

I dunno. Jennifer Hudson is, what, 38? I had no issues believing her character had a promising youth, but grew older and experienced hard times, homelessness, having no friends, and generally losing hope for the future. As a Millennial, I found her very relatable.

I did notice that they didn't name the narrator cat, and that bothered me slightly, if only because I kept waiting for him to get an introduction song of his own, and when he didn't, I wondered if I hadn't just missed his name earlier in the movie.

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Posted 10 January 2020 - 06:41 PM

It would have been funny if they'd put a little end-of-credits stinger where he starts singing about himself and then Rum Tum Tugger or someone cuts him off right before he says his name.  (Would also have been a good running gag during the movie.)

 

BTW, if anyone is wondering why this movie was rushed out despite the wonky CGI, apparently it was the studio's insistence because . . . they wanted Cats to go up against Rise of Skywalker.  Because they thought "Young girls don't like STAR WARS, they will all flock to our movie!"

 

Which seems like questionable logic to me, especially when the current trilogy has a female lead.  (I mean, Cats flopped in the box office so obviously it didn't work.)


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#83 Copper Bezel

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Posted 10 January 2020 - 09:41 PM

Oh that's delicious. They wanted to go up against Star Wars. Brilliant. No way this plan could have backfired.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#84 Axaday

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Posted 10 January 2020 - 10:10 PM

Frozen 2 was moved to get away from Star Wars.



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Posted 12 January 2020 - 01:17 PM

Frozen could probably slaughter almost any other movie...except a Star Wars movie. That was probably a wise decision on their part. :)
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#86 Nutjob R/T

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 04:19 PM

What is it about movies with singing felines rendered in CGI that makes the directors not understand how songs should relate to on-screen actions?

Jog in a straight line and sing about events that aren't happening.
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#87 Axaday

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 05:18 PM

What is it about movies with singing felines rendered in CGI 

 

How many movies are in that set?



#88 Nutjob R/T

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 07:03 PM

Uh, two. So far.
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#89 Confuzor

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 07:05 PM

CATS and...?

Edited by Confuzor, 12 January 2020 - 07:07 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2020 - 07:54 PM

Cats II: Cat Harder

2 Cats 2 Furriest

Cats II: The New Catsch

Cats: Pig in the Catty

I Still Cats What You Cats Last Cats


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#91 Axaday

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Posted 12 January 2020 - 09:48 PM

I guess it could be the Lion King?  But I don't understand how the rest of the post applies.



#92 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 04:06 AM

Saw Cats. Yeah, the CGI was bad when the cats first came out but I got used to it. Uuuuuugh on the roaches! But after that, it was ok. I wanted Mistopholespelling magic to be bigger. I spent most of the film wondering which celebrity he and the pack leader cat were. Turns out they were theater folk and not movie stars?

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 04:38 AM

I guess it could be the Lion King?  But I don't understand how the rest of the post applies.


-comments about how songs in Cats were given to wrong characters, thus undermining the purpose of the song, which were applied correctly during the original performance

-comparison to Lion King, where songs that made reference to on-screen actions in the original film, were simply sung verbatim with none of the surrounding activity to be seen

-implication: CGI felines have a deleterious effect on filmmakers re: music
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#94 Axaday

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 07:16 AM

I didn't notice that in Lion King and haven't seen Cats.



#95 Confuzor

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 11:23 AM

The lyrics for the Macavity song describe hin as a ginger, but he is very clearly a dark brown cat played by naked Idris Elba.

#96 Axaday

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 12:04 PM

Well, I don't like that, but Copper Bezel likes it so now I like it too.



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Posted 13 January 2020 - 12:06 PM

I love "An American Tail" and I love "There Are No Cats In America", but there is an error that really bothers me in Verse 3.  Do you hear it?

 

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Posted 13 January 2020 - 04:30 PM

 

-comparison to Lion King, where songs that made reference to on-screen actions in the original film, were simply sung verbatim with none of the surrounding activity to be seen

 

 

Did any part of the Lion King deviate enough from the original for that to be the case?!


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Posted 13 January 2020 - 06:27 PM

Well NONE of the scenes from the song "Can you feel the love tonight" occurred at night for one.



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Posted 13 January 2020 - 06:41 PM

I don't like that and I don't want to see Copper Bezel like it either.





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