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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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#1861 Undead Scottsman

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 02:54 PM

If it's not desirable, then it's a pretty poor bonus and the question becomes why include it at all?


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#1862 D Buster Prime

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 02:57 PM

Is there anything actually unique about that bundle besides the cover (which itself is hardly an exclusive since the art was already posted publicly)? After all, it is just a re-release of IDW's TFTM adaptation from 2006-2007.

I see no reason why there should be. You weren't paying for this. You paid for Unicron. This was just a bonus.
Because things like this are supposed to provide an added value to the purchase to promote it.

If there is no added value, what is even the point?

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#1863 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 03:18 PM

I would suggest that because something has no value to you does not mean it has no value to folks who have never read these issues before.


-ZacWilliam, if this free bonus gift has no value to you and that matters to you for some bizarre reason send them a letter and see if they'll cancel your Unicron I guess.

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#1864 D Buster Prime

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 04:15 PM

I don't mean literally nobody, but likely a significant portion of the target buying audience.

As opposed to a new exclusive comic, or a physical exclusive variant, for example.

P.S. No need to be snarkily make things more personal with the canceling pre-order remark. Different opinions are totally cool, bro. Let's talk about toys, not each other. :-)

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#1865 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 05:41 PM

Opinions are fine, I'm just saying I think the opinion:
"This free digital comic they gave me as a bonus gift for spending hundreds of dollars on a gigantic action figure is something I already read, where's the value there?" is a dumb thing to grouse about online.

-ZacWilliam, it's like complaining that the air freshener that came in the new car you just bought could have been a more original shape then "evergreen" tree. You could, but really?

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 06:28 PM

For me, it's how Hasbro advertised it that was off-putting. They were like "Order Unicron from HasLab directly and we'll give you this super duper special incentive comic (complete with an all new cover) in an exclusive offer you won't find anywhere else!"

 

...Only for said comic to be a reprint of preexisting material, with the only actual new piece even being posted on HasLab ahead of time for anyone and everyone to see (and to save a copy to their hard drive if they wanted to), making the whole incentive offer feel far less special and "exclusive" than Hasbro made it out to be, especially when every single other bonus included with the Unicron figure actually is something new.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 07:30 PM

Opinions are fine, I'm just saying I think the opinion:
"This free digital comic they gave me as a bonus gift for spending hundreds of dollars on a gigantic action figure is something I already read, where's the value there?" is a dumb thing to grouse about online.
-ZacWilliam, it's like complaining that the air freshener that came in the new car you just bought could have been a more original shape then "evergreen" tree. You could, but really?

"Grousing about how opinions about toy collecting is dumb is dumb."

See, I can do it, too. It's a cycle of escalating dumbness that does not lead to any fruitful conversation...unless one's idea of fruitful conversation is just verbally high-fiving people who see things exactly the same way as you do.

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 08:52 PM

I don't do that.

 

I high-five with gifs

 

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Posted 14 November 2019 - 09:15 PM

unless one's idea of fruitful conversation is just verbally high-fiving people who see things exactly the same way as you do.

 

Welcome to literally all discourse in 2019.



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Posted 14 November 2019 - 09:40 PM

Isn't that mini out of print? I didn't think it was available at the moment on Comixology in any other form. 

 

I may be super wrong. And it may not be relevant. 


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Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:11 PM

Isn't that mini out of print? I didn't think it was available at the moment on Comixology in any other form. 

 

I may be super wrong. And it may not be relevant. 

 

Well, there are... shall we say, "other means" of finding it. :ninja


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:46 PM

Wrong emote, ye'll find it on the high seas. :drunk


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Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:16 PM

Re: the previous page, I can't believe 1:1 anime figures are a thing.  People really buy those?  



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Posted 15 November 2019 - 05:44 PM

Opinions are fine, I'm just saying I think the opinion:
"This free digital comic they gave me as a bonus gift for spending hundreds of dollars on a gigantic action figure is something I already read, where's the value there?" is a dumb thing to grouse about online.
-ZacWilliam, it's like complaining that the air freshener that came in the new car you just bought could have been a more original shape then "evergreen" tree. You could, but really?

"Grousing about how opinions about toy collecting is dumb is dumb."

See, I can do it, too. It's a cycle of escalating dumbness that does not lead to any fruitful conversation...unless one's idea of fruitful conversation is just verbally high-fiving people who see things exactly the same way as you do.

Apparently yours is, judging from how offended you are that someone didn't think your complaint was valid.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:41 PM

if it's an unappealing incentive, just don't download it, I dunno

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 07:15 PM

Download all the copies of it and mail them back to Hasbro.



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Posted 15 November 2019 - 11:45 PM

Can always give code to someone that might want it...

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 01:08 AM

Opinions are fine, I'm just saying I think the opinion:"This free digital comic they gave me as a bonus gift for spending hundreds of dollars on a gigantic action figure is something I already read, where's the value there?" is a dumb thing to grouse about online.-ZacWilliam, it's like complaining that the air freshener that came in the new car you just bought could have been a more original shape then "evergreen" tree. You could, but really?

"Grousing about how opinions about toy collecting is dumb is dumb."See, I can do it, too. It's a cycle of escalating dumbness that does not lead to any fruitful conversation...unless one's idea of fruitful conversation is just verbally high-fiving people who see things exactly the same way as you do.
Apparently yours is, judging from how offended you are that someone didn't think your complaint was valid.

If one person's favorite pizza topping is pepperoni another person's is sausage, and they get both order plain pizzas, but instead both sausage pizzas for the same price... it's not unreasonable for one person to say, "Yay, I got my favorite pizza," while another person says, "Not what I would have preferred."

Why can't multiple opinions be valid? Because it's the Internet?

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 05:45 AM


No ones saying anything like that.

What you're saying seems more akin to: "that little plastic table thing that came in the box with the pizza I ordered, to help keep the box top from touching the cheese, has 3 legs and I would have preferred one with four."

-ZacWilliam, we're not saying it's an opinion you can't have, just that most people find it a fairly silly inconsequential thing to complain about. No one bought the pizza for the little table-spacer.
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Posted 16 November 2019 - 07:41 AM

I don't do that.

 

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