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@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH

@  -LittleAutob... : (09 July 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Okay?

@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.

@  Trpodeca : (07 July 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Man I just learnt about what seemed like a really cool show, only to realize it was a dream and it dosen't really exist.

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 01:02 PM)

Just something I read that I wanted to share. I heard "gray rock" mentioned in a video, so I looked it up and that was the definition.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 July 2020 - 12:20 PM)

It's a fancy way of saying "Ignore annoying people".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (07 July 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Bass XO has a habit of pasting random drivel here as if doing so were profound.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 July 2020 - 11:30 AM)

And this would be in relation to... what exactly?

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 11:25 AM)

"One strategy for dealing with a narcissist or sociopath is to act like a "gray rock," meaning that you become uninteresting and unresponsive. You don't feed their needs for drama or attention. You don't show emotion, say anything interesting, or disclose any personal information"

@  Nevermore : (06 July 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Oh wow. Studio Series Offroad Bumblebee is awesome. His articulation is amazing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (06 July 2020 - 11:18 AM)

Oof-

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

I got Studio Series 39 Cogman yesterday and woke up to find he'd decapitated my titans returns figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 July 2020 - 10:19 PM)

If I had a sarcasm powered mouth.. ooohh waaaiiittt...

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 05:01 PM)

Heh

@  Bass X0 : (04 July 2020 - 02:56 PM)

"If I had sarcasm-powered legs, I'd do a happy dance...!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 July 2020 - 02:39 PM)

The real clones were the friends we made along the way.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 01:47 PM)

So the Emperor in episodes 1 through 6 was a clone?

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:47 AM)

(And the 0th anniversary of the last time I couldn't do math.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Today is the 24th anniversary of the day we fought off an alien invasion with the help of Will Smith.


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#1 Guardian Prime

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Posted 12 July 2019 - 02:17 PM

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THE EARLY EDITION!

Because China got an English version first.

............................................

 

We've got another early episode.

With this one being Fluttershy/Angel focused.

Will Angel continue to be a little white turd of a brat?

Will he finally get what's coming to him?

Or will he actually be... well... an Angel?

 

An English version is already out in the wild,

With a few Chinese subs attached!

 

For those waiting for the US airing,

New episode will be on Saturday, August 31st,

11:30a.m. EST / 8:30a.m. PST

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SYNOPSIS!

 

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SHE TALKS TO ANGEL:

 

When Fluttershy and Angel Bunny's relationship hits the skids,

Zecora gives them a potion to help them understand each other.

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Come visit us in our Allsparkle Discord Chat as the new episode airs in the US!



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Posted 12 July 2019 - 02:48 PM

Well, here we go again.


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Posted 12 July 2019 - 06:53 PM

Spoiler

 

Really most of this season has been a let down. Guess I thought they'd put more effort to go out on a bang.


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Posted 12 July 2019 - 07:43 PM

Spoiler

 

Really most of this season has been a let down. Guess I thought they'd put more effort to go out on a bang.

 

It likely be the season finally that will have the bang, if not it means much of the creative spirt has finally bitten the dust or its going into whatever takes over from FIM but then there does seem to be a lack of creatively going around in the stuff coming in from the states of late.


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Posted 18 July 2019 - 04:46 PM

Seen this ep from Youtube, Ziacora is clearly the most powerful Earth Pony at least with her potions. At least we get to see Angel's personalty


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Posted 18 July 2019 - 08:09 PM

Seen this ep from Youtube, Ziacora is clearly the most powerful Earth Pony at least with her potions. At least we get to see Angel's personalty

 

 

...Zecora's a zebra, not an earth pony. Kind of an important distinction there.


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Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:43 PM

 

Seen this ep from Youtube, Ziacora is clearly the most powerful Earth Pony at least with her potions. At least we get to see Angel's personalty

 

 

...Zecora's a zebra, not an earth pony. Kind of an important distinction there.

 

 

Well she's one of a kind in MIPFIM, I doult that going to change anytime soon


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Posted 22 July 2019 - 11:51 AM

Well if it is it would have to be really soon.

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Posted 31 August 2019 - 12:07 AM

Reminder. This ep is next for airing in the US.  August 31st.  Usual time.



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Posted 31 August 2019 - 11:20 AM

FnuAwToday at 11:03 AM
Too much coffee. Time going too slow.

FnuAwToday at 11:16 AM
I'm boooooored.

DvandomToday at 11:19 AM
You're Pinkie-ing.

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:23 AM
Morning.

FnuAwToday at 11:23 AM
Hi
Yeah I've been going Pinkie at the mailbox all morning.

DvandomToday at 11:24 AM
Faust's DC Superhero Girls six characters don't map exactly onto the Mane Six, but there's a lot of similarities.

FnuAwToday at 11:26 AM
Huuuug the clock even went backwards for a bit.

DvandomToday at 11:27 AM
Nissan Versa!

ScavengerToday at 11:28 AM
wave

DvandomToday at 11:29 AM
Heh, must've been looking away when Grogar hoof-faced Cozy last week.

FnuAwToday at 11:30 AM
Snakes can't blink!

DvandomToday at 11:30 AM
I wonder who attacked the giraffe.
Canon that predators try to eat other critters. And implication that they must succeed.
OTOH, they're casting it as a choice, rather than being obligate carnivores.

FnuAwToday at 11:32 AM
Zecora exists!

ScavengerToday at 11:34 AM
am i supposed to know the blonde in the old navy commerical?

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:34 AM
No idea who that was.

ScavengerToday at 11:34 AM
well, the animals do have sentience

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:35 AM
Old Navy commercials get really weird.

ScavengerToday at 11:35 AM
first girafs, elephants, and koalas

DvandomToday at 11:35 AM
Salamander?

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:37 AM
Bacon Chocolate Chip cookies. Yummy.

DvandomToday at 11:39 AM
Specifically mentioned as vegan.
(Codependent relationship ahoy)

ScavengerToday at 11:40 AM
bacon cookies could be tasty
but how does pinky get bacon?

DvandomToday at 11:40 AM
This is gonna be a body swap episode, innit?

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:41 AM
Probably.

DvandomToday at 11:41 AM
Snakes can chew in Equestria.

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:41 AM
Burp!
Yup, body swap.

DvandomToday at 11:42 AM
Yep. Body swap. One of those plots that gets hauled out when the writers are out of ideas.

FnuAwToday at 11:42 AM
This has potential though.

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:46 AM
Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers.

DvandomToday at 11:46 AM
The Stare still works.
Everyone should be thinking Chrysalis at this point.

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:47 AM
"I wanna marry Discord"

DvandomToday at 11:51 AM
Lesson for Fluttershy is something she should already have known...Angel's life is full of terror and loneliness.

ScavengerToday at 11:52 AM
i can't recall from the pets adventure episode...can't animals talk to each other?

FnuAwToday at 11:53 AM
There can always be a language barrier.

DvandomToday at 11:53 AM
Yeah, I think they can. But the books are deuterocanonical.

ScavengerToday at 11:54 AM
i meant the episode
the spike and pets do stuff

DvandomToday at 11:54 AM
Ambitious snake.

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:56 AM
Ew. Snake slobber.

DvandomToday at 11:57 AM
Muriel later discovered she was into vore.

Guardian PrimeToday at 11:58 AM
Snoopy dance?

ScavengerToday at 11:58 AM
Snoopy Dance
DHX is doing Apple's new Snoopy cartoon
ok... animals can talk to each other... Angel's just an asshole

DvandomToday at 11:59 AM
Yep.
"Angel is an asshole" is in his series bible.
Zeroca's a bit of a jerk too.

ScavengerToday at 12:00 PM
yeah...but she's a jerk teacher

FnuAwToday at 12:00 PM
I enjoyed this more than I thought I would.

Guardian PrimeToday at 12:01 PM
Never a fan of body swap episodes, but this one was good.

ScavengerToday at 12:01 PM
so this cartoon is about a little girl who paints her wall, and because of the fumes (or the lead) hallucinates.
it was fun... an "angel" spotlight..and zacorra...before the end

FnuAwToday at 12:02 PM
I'm not a fan of body swap episodes either, but this one actually tried to have a serious plot beyond a series of body swap hijinks.

ScavengerToday at 12:02 PM
as they're doing lots of last bows for the secondary characters

Guardian PrimeToday at 12:04 PM
I gotta run, later.

FnuAwToday at 12:04 PM
Later.

DvandomToday at 12:15 PM
Later

ScavengerToday at 12:15 PM
yep.. dave and me gone...chat chat chat.. dave and me here... nada

Videomaster21XXToday at 12:19 PM
Bah, of course what I find fun about body swaps, the rest of you hate.

FnuAwToday at 12:21 PM
I wouldn't have hated a Rarity/Rainbow dash body swap episode. But I do really like what they chose to do here.
I like how Angel and Fluttershy stayed mostly calm when they realized what happened.

Videomaster21XXToday at 12:25 PM
I would have liked a ton of different swaps then this, but this wasn't exactly horrible.

ScavengerToday at 12:32 PM
fluttershy and angel have seen a lot of wierd shit

DvandomToday at 12:34 PM
And they know that whenever Zecora is involved, weird happens.



Yeah I'm gonna have to disagree. I thought this was great.

Maybe it's because I'm not the biggest fan of body swap episodes, so I wasn't disappointed with the lack of typical body swap hijinks. This had enough plot to keep me engaged.

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Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:07 PM

I'm still bummed about this episode.

 

I know a few of you, if not the majority of you, seem to dislike bodyswaps, but I love them. I really wanted an episode like this for the longest time and we get... this.

 

I don't hate the episode now. It's fine for what it gave us. It's just. Let's say you never saw the episode and I showed you the part where Fluttershy is in Angel's body going through the Everfree forest.

 

Would you have ANY IDEA that was Fluttershy in there? I really doubt it. Fluttershy in his body, and especially since she couldn't talk, doesn't really give you anything all that new or interesting to watch.

 

I feel the fun of a bodyswap is to see characters have to act in ways they normally wouldn't act as. The obvious answer to this is what a fan did, as I believe you've probably seen the fan animation of Rarity and Rainbowdash switching bodies.

 

There we get Rainbowdash acting as Rarity and dressing up in pretty dresses, while Rainbow Dash messes around with being a unicorn. Heck if I was able to see Rarity trying to be 'Fashionable' while in Dash's body and Rainbow trying to be athletic in Rarity's body, that would have been great!

 

But instead we got, "Angel" basically just being a bunny, and "Fluttershy" acting like a jerk. Something we've seen her do... what seven other times now?

 

We could have Twilight and Spike swap. Maybe Discord swaps with someone and has to deal with just being a normal pony while other pony deals with having Discord's powers. Heck we could go really off the wall and have something like Sweetie Belle and Princess Luna swap. Now Luna as Sweetie Belle feels she's getting a break from being a princess, and Sweetie dealing with just what it means to be in such a position.

 

There was a lot of fun stuff we could have gotten. But instead we got... this.

 

Again, I don't think this was bad, but man is it lacking compared to what we could of had.


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Posted 01 September 2019 - 09:26 PM

I based my expectations on the episode solely on the title. I was not expecting what we got. I liked it, I mean, even angel bunny is getting chracter growth.

To videomaster: yeah, the core concept could have been done to, and been much more entertaining with, any two other ponies/characters. But this was the combination that made sense. It's a weird enough world that if two beings walked up to you and said "help us, we switched bodies." You wouldn't have cause to disbelieve. Then off you go to twilight's for a cure. In this case you weren't SUPPOSED to be able to tell because it would have ruined the core lesson for the characters. The entire point was literally to walk a mile in each others shoes. If fluttershy made it clear who she was when she came across twilight and spike: boom, episode done. Plus we did get to see how angel would behave in fluttershy's body; and it ended with someone getting eaten... Not the random you expect, but still pretty random.
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Posted 02 September 2019 - 08:28 AM

It's not hard to stop the episode from ending though.

 

Rarity and Rainbow Dash: Help! Twilight we swapped bodies because of such and such!

 

Twilight: What? Oh no! Don't worry I'll help, I just have to study some things to make sure I reverse this properly or it could have dangerous side effects!

 

Boom, give you just enough time let things play out.

 

That or she just tells them it's best to let magic like this run it's course. I mean they came up with a bullshit way to prevent magic from just growing new hair. >_>


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Posted 02 September 2019 - 10:51 AM

You're not wrong. (love that rarity rainbow dash short from agrol.) but fluttershy as angel couldn't communicate with anyone else, and angel as fluttershy had a vested interest in NOT swapping back. I agree: it would have been more fun with others, but this one WORKS on a bunch of different levels.


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Posted 02 September 2019 - 11:09 AM

You raise points I'm finding really interesting.
 

Let's say you never saw the episode and I showed you the part where Fluttershy is in Angel's body going through the Everfree forest.
 
Would you have ANY IDEA that was Fluttershy in there? I really doubt it. Fluttershy in his body, and especially since she couldn't talk, doesn't really give you anything all that new or interesting to watch.


You mentioned this in the stream, and it's where I started to realize how much I appreciate this episode.

You're absolutely right in your assessment of the scene, that if you showed that clip out of context we wouldn't have any idea what's going on there. What that tells me is that the plot is meaningful. The plot here isn't just a series of actions. In that scene at least, the plot forms an invisible layer hanging over the actions, flavoring what you're seeing. It's more sophisticated screenwriting that what, say, G.M. Berrow would have done.
 

I feel the fun of a bodyswap is to see characters have to act in ways they normally wouldn't act as.


Isn't that only half of it though? The way I see it, there's two main ways to do a bodyswap plot.

Type A: Characters attempt their old lives in the wrong bodies. Hijinks ensue.

Type B: Characters attempt each other's lives. Hijinks ensue.

This episode is very little Type A but very much Type B. We don't get much Fluttershy doing Fluttershy things in a bunny body (just the Stare, I think), but we get Fluttershy living an unfiltered experience of Angel's life.

Angel is more of a mix of Type A and Type B. He does attempt to do Fluttershy things, just with great apathy.

It is a little weird that this episode didn't pick one type or the other and didn't try to be more symmetrical about it. And it is surprising that it's all played more for drama and character development than for hijinks, but that's how this episode rolls.
 

The obvious answer to this is what a fan did, as I believe you've probably seen the fan animation of Rarity and Rainbowdash switching bodies.

There we get Rainbowdash acting as Rarity and dressing up in pretty dresses, while Rainbow Dash messes around with being a unicorn. Heck if I was able to see Rarity trying to be 'Fashionable' while in Dash's body and Rainbow trying to be athletic in Rarity's body, that would have been great!


I'm gonna watch that now. It sounds great.
 

But instead we got, "Angel" basically just being a bunny, and "Fluttershy" acting like a jerk. Something we've seen her do... what seven other times now?


Here's one point I fully disagree with. This wasn't just Meanshy again. Obviously there's a heavy similarity, but the small differences make it. It's not Meanshy's voice. I mean yeah, it's the same voice, but not the same "voice". The tone and cadence is noticeably different. It's definitely Angel's "voice" coming out of Fluttershy's voice, which is great voice acting.

The character's different too. Meanshy is highly aggressive, while Angel just doesn't give a toss about any of this.

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 08:48 PM

Type B': Character tries to live a BETTER version of the other one's life, hijinks ensue.  (Steven Universe in Lars's body, tries to fix what he sees as the problems Lars has.  Doesn't really grasp either the problems or how to solve them.)

 

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 09:35 PM

It was an okay episode. It was a basic Freaky Friday episode. It was nice to see Angle's point of view. I just can't help but think if these last few seasons were my first introduction to the world of MLP, I probably wouldn't have joined the fandom. I mean, episodes have been okay. But...that's pretty much it. They've been...okay.
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Posted 02 September 2019 - 10:39 PM

You're not wrong. (love that rarity rainbow dash short from agrol.) but fluttershy as angel couldn't communicate with anyone else, and angel as fluttershy had a vested interest in NOT swapping back. I agree: it would have been more fun with others, but this one WORKS on a bunch of different levels.

Like I said there isn't anything really wrong with the episode. My only real problems are I wanted something else, and I feel we didn't get enough of them swapped for it to really sink in.

 

Here's one point I fully disagree with. This wasn't just Meanshy again. Obviously there's a heavy similarity, but the small differences make it. It's not Meanshy's voice. I mean yeah, it's the same voice, but not the same "voice". The tone and cadence is noticeably different. It's definitely Angel's "voice" coming out of Fluttershy's voice, which is great voice acting.

The character's different too. Meanshy is highly aggressive, while Angel just doesn't give a toss about any of this. 

 

The small differences are what makes the episode work for what it gives us, but to me it's not enough to justify them going with this rather then a much better pairing to swap.

 

It's neat to see Angel's personality, but honestly I kinda had a grasp of it after seeing nine seasons of him. This is alright, but I didn't care that much about having Angel's personality confirmed.

 

It's a heavy similarity to the point it's a bit TOO heavy. I've still seen about seven different variations of Fluttershy being mean or uncaring.

 

It's the same problem I have with Maud. She's fine and all, but we have two other sisters Marble and Limestone that we could have given an episode to, and yet we never did, and I can confirm. We never do.


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 02:48 PM

It was an okay episode. It was a basic Freaky Friday episode. It was nice to see Angle's point of view. I just can't help but think if these last few seasons were my first introduction to the world of MLP, I probably wouldn't have joined the fandom. I mean, episodes have been okay. But...that's pretty much it. They've been...okay.

 

I can understand that, its a case of the show is showing its cracks as there was never a real overall plan in terms of a serious narrative across the seasons and I think they didn't expect for it to take off the way it did, plus there is just so much you can really do with the characters before you repeat the same thing over again.


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