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@  Sabrblade : (18 October 2019 - 11:04 PM)

With visuals presented by the Cybernet Space Cube

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:51 PM)

And don't forget to sign up for a cybersecurity seminar while you're there

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Well you can always strap on some cyberlimbs and go into cyberspace for a cyberpunk experience

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 October 2019 - 04:28 PM)

You know that "cyber" doesn't mean "cyborg", right?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 October 2019 - 04:16 PM)

So where's the Cyborgs on CYBERtron?

@  The Doctor Who : (18 October 2019 - 03:47 PM)

Click here and we can send you notifications about your desire to discontinue notifications!

@  Benbot : (18 October 2019 - 10:40 AM)

Why does every damn website want to send me notifications? NO, no one wants your popups! Quit asking!

@  Echowarrior : (18 October 2019 - 09:19 AM)

Amazon in the US has pretty good benefits, though, and even the temp workers had forty hours a week to start with. Even with minimum wage, that's pretty good pay.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2019 - 01:20 AM)

Oh, the turnover rates are high here as well.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Amazon.com and .ca, on the other hand, can be pretty terrible. I know from your squawkbox posts that you guys have your issues with Amazon over there, although you're lucky to have stronger government regulations and a union there. I gather the warehouse workers in the USA and Canada have it pretty crappy, with very high turnover, close to minimum wage pay, and no unions

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:38 PM)

Amazon.de doesn't really have the same issue. I've ordered from them (and UK, FR, IT and JP) several times, and their packaging is much better

@  Nevermore : (17 October 2019 - 05:22 PM)

I'm not sure how it works on the customer's end. As packers, we sometimes have items that are flagged as "overwrap", which means we absolutely have to put them into a box even if they're already in pretty sturdy manufacturer packaging.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 03:05 PM)

Yeah, I really do wish amazon had an option to upgrade packaging for an extra buck or something. I hate their bubble mailers

@  Benbot : (17 October 2019 - 07:17 AM)

That's how it works. I just hope my order from Amazon doesn't arrive crushed because they idiotically stuffed it in an envelope.

@  Telly : (16 October 2019 - 10:48 PM)

my walmart is acting true to form. as soon as mirage arrives from amazon, my walmart gets his entire wave in after months of having wave 1 clogging the pegs....

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2019 - 05:18 PM)

I stirred up some trouble at work, complained about the blatant neglect of employee safety. Was asked to take photos and write down the locations so the matter could be properly escalated. Made me feel a little better.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2019 - 02:55 PM)

I got stabbed in the eyelid by a mudwasp, pulled down a tree, and then got ice cream. You know, all told: not a bad day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 October 2019 - 09:17 AM)

Burrunjor

@  Paladin : (15 October 2019 - 08:04 AM)

your mom.

@  Benbot : (15 October 2019 - 08:02 AM)

What's your favorite Paleolithic megafauna?

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:06 PM)

Together with the Rhino G1 sets, probably the most expensive DVDs I ever bought

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 10:01 PM)

I've still got the age-old Rhino sets

@  Telly : (14 October 2019 - 09:09 PM)

i didnt find that at any of the ones around here, so i had to settle for seasons 1 and 2 of duckman for $3

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 07:45 PM)

Heck, I got the season 2/3 set for $3 (?) from a Dollar General discount bin :p

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2019 - 07:29 PM)

The series is pretty cheap on DVD, too, which at least will work internet or no. The complete series set seems to be OOP, but there's a Season 1 set as well as a combined 2 & 3 set.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Woot! Beast wars!

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2019 - 06:08 PM)

Yay! Tubi now has the first season of Rescue Bots and the full run of Beast Wars FINALLY available.

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 02:16 PM)

Just like me in a game of Civilization. Don't have gunpowder? Time for your cities to burn.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 01:51 PM)

He dubbed the peoples that saw him as bad news cannibals and savages before enslaving and wiping them out too.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 01:40 PM)

And if they had been unfriendly: he would have simply slaughtered them with diseases they couldn't fight, and technology they couldn't match until they as a people did not exist. There's something about european backgrounds that drive us to exploit.

@  Rycochet : (14 October 2019 - 11:02 AM)

He described the peoples he encountered as some of the most friendly and giving in the world, so naturally, he ate all their food, enslaved them and put them to work looking for gold that did not exist, until they as a people did not exist.

@  Paladin : (14 October 2019 - 09:57 AM)

he landed by coincidence in front of long-term residents.

@  Sabrblade : (14 October 2019 - 09:55 AM)

He said the world was round-o! (He said the world was round-o!) He said it could be found-o! (He said it could be found-o!) That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo! (That hypothetical, calculated, son-of-a-gun, Columbo!)

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 09:22 AM)

In the year 1492, Columbus gave us the day off skoo

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2019 - 08:59 AM)

How often do people actually celebrate Columbus or the Pilgrims? Usually it just feels like celebrating the first break in the school year and a nice dinner with the family.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2019 - 08:29 AM)

You've got like two more weeks until the american thanksgiving. Canadian thanksgiving is literally a harvest festival.

@  CVReynolds : (14 October 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Hey, everyone. Come together to enjoy this national holiday made to celebrate a mass-murderer who never set foot in the USA. What fun!

@  Benbot : (14 October 2019 - 07:25 AM)

that's perfect!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 October 2019 - 02:22 AM)

A school-bus combiner called Valedictorion.

@  TriBlurr : (13 October 2019 - 12:16 AM)

Honor-Roll

@  Arazyr : (11 October 2019 - 08:18 AM)

I like that one.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 October 2019 - 10:39 PM)

Oh, how about Dropout?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (09 October 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm beginning to put together The TF Roll Out Short Hot Rod's Presentation!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 October 2019 - 02:35 PM)

Truant.

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 October 2019 - 12:26 PM)

Haslab Unicron may change the direction of Cyberverse or the netflix series.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 October 2019 - 11:31 AM)

Bluecheesewagon

@  Benbot : (09 October 2019 - 07:09 AM)

Those are too friendly--what if he was a Decepticon?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 October 2019 - 07:23 PM)

Cheesewagon

@  Dekafox : (08 October 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Bus-Top has a very GoBot vibe

@  Bass X0 : (08 October 2019 - 10:51 AM)

I actually never heard of the name Megalodon until recently.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 02:47 AM

Take all of this with a grain of salt:

 

For some time now the staff of TFNation have been dropping cryptic hints of something big to come. Fans have speculated that this year's TFNation could have an officially sponsored exclusive product.

 

The Twitter account of TFNation mascot Genny has tweeted about the resemblance of Brunt to the Mark V Guardian Droid from the Marvel G1 comic, though no identifiable plastic has been leaked on Chinese social media.

 

Now, the TFNation Twitter account has separately tweeted '10 years', '2 months', and '25 days', which has recently been interpreted by fans as the length of time between the finale broadcast date of Transformers Animated, 23 May 2009, and the first day of TFNation this year, 16 August 2019.

 

What could it be?

 

 


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#2 Rycochet

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 07:10 AM

I love how nineties the Guardian units all look, given how they were early to mid eighties. Can't say I think any of them look like Brunt though.

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 08:47 AM

If anything, Brunt oughta get a simple redeco into this:

 

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I mean, the idea practically goes without saying.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 09:22 AM

Here is my predictions, in order of likelihood:

 

1) Trial and Error, the unofficial fanmade graphic novel finale to Transformers Animated released at a previous TFnation, is getting reprinted, and said reprint has been officially approved by Hasbro, making it the canonical Animated finale.

 

2) Some sort of Animated revival, like a direct-to-tv movie finale is being produced, and it will be announced/have a trailer/have some early footage shown there.

 

3) Similar to the above, but it's been completed, and will have a surprise viewing there (less likely because we'd have heard of it).

 

4) An exclusive run of Animated toys is being released at the convention, perhaps the unreleased-in-the-west molds, like Wingblade Prime, Hydrodive Bee, and Blackout (if this was happening, we'd likely have seen some leaks by now).


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Posted 05 July 2019 - 10:28 AM

Erector and whoever from that Micromaster two-pack


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#6 The Phazer

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 01:34 PM

Seems like it's a script read performance of the Animated S4 opener.

 

Have to say, I really doubt Hasbro UK will ever be on the ball enough to actually produce an exclusive.



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Posted 05 July 2019 - 01:36 PM

snippet of Sari's hair

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 01:41 PM

https://twitter.com/tfnationltd/status/1147203633701896195

 


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Posted 05 July 2019 - 01:55 PM


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Posted 05 July 2019 - 03:31 PM

Welp, sucks for all of us who can't go overseas to attend this. :(


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 03:54 PM

Welp, sucks for all of us who can't go overseas to attend this. :(

Oh hey, it's me with practically every hugging geek thing of interest ever. Especially in the last 3 years.



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 02:58 AM

TFW2005 admin Sol Fury's bullet points from "The Trial of Megatron" season premiere outline reading:
 

  • The Protoforms are handed over to the Cyber Ninjas and their new sensei, Dai Atlas.
  • Sari is not one of the protoforms. She’s something else.
  • A wake is held for Prowl.
  • Ultra Magnus dies and names Optimus Prime as his sucessor.
  • Sentinel Prime bribes Bumblebee with a spot on the Elite Guard to endorse him as Ultra Magnus’ successor. This drives a wedge between him and the rest of the team. He later reconciles by refusing to follow along with Sentinel’s bribery.
  • Ratchet and the other science bots build Sentinel Prime a “Powermaster” armor suit.
  • Ironhide and Jazz become members of Team Prime.
  • Omega Supreme has a hard time fitting in on Cybertron as people view him as a weapon of mass destruction. Omega decides to dedicate himself to saving lives.
  • The Decepticons attack the Energon farm Bulkhead came from. Obsidian leads the attack. A later raid sees Team Prime sans Bumblebee fight Strika’s Team Charr.
  • Sentinel gets played by Megatron, first leading the Elite Guard on a wild goose chase then distracting everyone with a public trial.
  • Rattrap (here named Rattletrap) is Megatron’s defence attorny. He gets Megatron off all charges.
  • Megatron launches Trypticon Prison into space.
  • Optimus (using the Powermaster armour) leads his team on Omega Supreme in pursuit. Bulkhead stays behind on Cybertron to fix the damage Trypticon launching caused.
  • Omega VS Trypticon leads to Omega being damaged and remaining in ship mode.
  • Optimus and crew (minus Ratchet) break into Trypticon prison and knock the rocket city’s power offline by overloading the power grid.
  • Megatron throws his soldiers into the city’s reactor in a desperate bid to keep the prison powered (Lugnut jumps in willingly)
  • After a showdown with Optimus Prime, Trypticon prison crashes to Earth – landing on top of Dinobot Island.

 
And a few more bits of information from Marty Isenberg's Sunday panel, some of which have already been published in the AllSpark Almanacs.
 

  • Powermaster Prime was a Hasbro request to allow Hasbro to release a larger size / priced character. Marty worked it into the premiere.
  • Hasbro also requested flames on Optimus, movie-style. This would have been a repaint on the toy. It popped up in the outline as signifier of a high honour awarded to Optimus.
  • Focus would have been on Mini-Cons, but the other Decepticons would have eventually come back.
  • Megatron was completely losing it at this point in the story. Described as "not quite Beast Machines genocidal, but on the way there"
  • Marauder Megatron was a Hasbro request, they wanted a triple changer design. Intended to make Megatron a huge threat to the point he didn't need minions.
  • Writers never figured out exactly where Sari was going. But her journey was the story of Transformers Animated - idea was the finale would have been the end of her journey.
  • Beachcomber was intended for Season 3. He was supposed to catch Longarm turning into Shockwave. His reaction? "Dude, not cool". Then Shockwave kills him. This was cut for time.
  • Beachcomber was then intended for a scene in Season 4. Blackout would have killed him.
  • If the Beachcomber scene hadn't happened in Season 4, he'd have died in Season 5. Marty didn't like Beachcomber.
  • Unicron considered "too big for Animated"
  • No plans to have had Megatron become Galvatron in Animated.
  • Shattered Glass episode was intended for Season 3. It got bumped when the Season 3 opener was made into a three party.
  • Marty doesn't remember who would have been on Slipstream's own team of Decepticons.
  • Optimus as a young leader was Marty's idea. He likes writing underdogs and characters with something to prove rather than big heroes.
  • Blitzwing as a character was born from Marty wanting to write a character who turns into anything. Because that didn't work as a toy, Derrick Wyatt suggested using a triple changer. Marty then came up with three personalities. Derrick was then inspired by He-Man's Man-E-Faces. In-show origin would have involved Blackarachnia and been told in Season 4.
  • There was a running joke about having a transforming character called "Tractor". He'd have been an Energon farmer.
  • Blurr was not intended to come back - he was "gone and dead" as far as Marty was concerned. But, the Botcon story where Blurr is revived "is canon. Sure. Why not?"
  • Team Charr were not specifically planned to be used (no stories built around them) but Marty thinks they would have "inevitably" been used.
  • Ratchet probably ran off with Omega Supreme as the Ark, and nobody else knew rather than him being intentionally given to Optimus.
  • Characters like Red Alert and Rodimus would have been recurring characters.
  • Marty thinks Obsidian in the treatment may have been a slip on his part, and could have been Strika in the final cut.
  • No plans for more flying Autobots.
  • Human villains were phased out - "fell by the wayside" - as the series progressed. Not a Hasbro pushback.
  • The timeslot for the Unicron Trilogy and Animated was based on a deal. The first run was on a decent timeslot but if the ratings were not good, it'd be moved to an earlier timeslot.
  • Cartoon Network wanted Marty and the crew to "age up" the show for season 3, to reflect the network's other shows at the time (specifically the new Ben 10 and Clone Wars)
  • Bulkhead was the first character Derrick Wyatt designed.
  • Lockdown was based on wanting a version of Death's Head that Hasbro could own.
  • Chances of actually seeing a new season "slim to none". Comic a smaller investment, but up to IDW to decide if they want to do it. Marty would be happy to write it.
  • Marty says if you want to know more, get the Allspark Almanacs.

Edited by SHIELD Agent 47, 20 August 2019 - 03:01 AM.

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#13 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 05:23 AM

"Rattletrap gets Megatron acquitted" is clearly the most interesting part of all that.

"We never really had an endgame for Sari" is the most disappointing.

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 06:20 AM

No part of this is satisfying. It might have been in its originally expected context of being followed by the whole season of episodes it was setting up for, but as things stand I feel like I was happier not knowing.

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 07:22 AM

Was this recorded?


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 07:51 AM

Something Marty talked about a bit was that "The Trial of Megatron" and the status quo it sets up don't represent the original concept for a fourth season - there had already been a bunch of back and forth with Hasbro by the time the treatments got written.

The crew's early intent back when the show was starting was that it would transition towards being more Beast-Era-y around S3, S4, and when the time came to properly develop S4, initially they were like "okay, Megatron is done now, let's move onto a new threat, maybe Predacons", but Hasbro wanted to keep Megatron, and more generally to keep things as mostly vehicular Autobots vs. Decepticons. Having enjoyed "This Is Why I Hate Machines", the crew also then considered a season 4 that would be primarily Cybertron-based, but again there was Hasbro pushback.

Ultimately, for the idea of the show continuing to even be entertained, Hasbro needed it to hew as close to the 2007 film as possible, so the crew essentially ended up constrained to "the five Autobots from the movie versus Megatron on Earth". Hasbro created some mockups of the five Autobots (seen in the Almanac!), including Ratchet in green and Optimus with flame deco. The crew didn't really want the flames, so wrote Optimus as getting them only temporarily during the opening episodes.

Edited by Jalaguy, 20 August 2019 - 07:53 AM.


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Posted 20 August 2019 - 11:03 AM

And now there's a petition going to get IDW to make Animated Season 4 in comic form.

 

https://www.change.o...season-4-comics


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 11:08 AM

Marty also stress that this was very much a first draft. They would have needed to hammer it into shape to fit into a real 3 episode structure, they would have needed to get all the proper Hasbro approvals. The lack of action in episode 1 I think would have had to change.

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 11:13 AM

Is it like, standard practice for Hasbro to make specific demands even before they could confirm whether or not it's actually getting made?

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 11:25 AM

No part of this is satisfying. It might have been in its originally expected context of being followed by the whole season of episodes it was setting up for, but as things stand I feel like I was happier not knowing.

 

I feel like you're perhaps coming at this with the wrong mindset. Like, this is NOT designed to provide any closure. Far from it. It's designed specifically to blow open the rather closed ending that we DID get. Season premier and all that. It's not SUPPOSED to be satisfying, it's supposed to be intriguing and make you wonder what's going to happen next.

 

Contrast to, say, Trial and Error, which Chris and I did unofficially. That project took some of the same broad brushstrokes (Sari's encounter with Prowl from the AllSpark, Megatron on trial, attacks on the Energon Farms) but specifically tried to tie it all up and put a bow on it. Different goals, so we produced a different story.

 

 

Is it like, standard practice for Hasbro to make specific demands even before they could confirm whether or not it's actually getting made?

 

100%. Hasbro generally asks for quite a bit of development before a project gets to the place where they're comfortable giving the green light.

 

 

"Rattletrap gets Megatron acquitted" is clearly the most interesting part of all that.

 

It played very well. It also highlighted a little in-joke in the Trial and Error book that I rather enjoyed. Marty had asked me not to share info about Rattletrap as the defender, so we of course respected that. But we did have Sentinel object to Optimus as defense counsel, with the line "we have perfectly good public defenders" while gesturing to a clearly overwhelmed Rattletrap dropping his notes. The joke works on its own I think, but has an extra layer once you find out that indeed that was another likely path for the multiverse to take.


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