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@  wonko the sane? : (24 September 2020 - 02:15 PM)

Gnarly.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 September 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Beast Era, a blonde rat called Sunsqueaker.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 September 2020 - 01:00 PM)

And then Knockout was in the wall again.

@  Sabrblade : (24 September 2020 - 12:53 PM)

Knockout: "Ooh, sorry, Lord Megatron. The correct word was... 'Decepticon'."

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 September 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Knockout: *while doing a crossword puzzle* Lord Megatron, whats a ten letter word for disappointment? | Megatron: ...... Starscream.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 September 2020 - 01:20 PM)

@Bass X0 Shockwave did it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 September 2020 - 11:56 AM)

At least it's not Suntwerker.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 September 2020 - 11:19 AM)

I read that name as "suntweaker" the first time, and was terrified for a moment...

@  Bass X0 : (23 September 2020 - 03:41 AM)

Prowl did nothing wrong.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 September 2020 - 01:50 AM)

Smashy, Stabby, Selfy, and Shieldy.

@  Xero Prime : (22 September 2020 - 08:52 PM)

RunFast, MuckyTrail, TrackBreaker and Sunstreaker

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 September 2020 - 06:16 AM)

Runamuck, Fasttrack, Sunstreaker, and Trailbreaker.

@  Nevermore : (22 September 2020 - 06:13 AM)

Cardboard and plastic.

@  Paladin : (22 September 2020 - 05:52 AM)

what's IN Wave 3, anyway?

@  Telly : (21 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

i dont think theyre due for release until november. at least thats when target says ill get trailbreaker and sunstreaker. thought the wiki says theyre out in singapore

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2020 - 06:01 PM)

Has wave 3 actually reached anywhere yet?

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 September 2020 - 04:40 PM)

A few more Bearimy's for Earthrise wave 3 to reach the UK

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 05:07 PM)

Cheers pal.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 September 2020 - 04:42 PM)

Welcome aboard!

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 04:38 PM)

Hey, new to the boards

@  RichardT1977 : (20 September 2020 - 02:29 PM)

I had an idea for a Spiral Zone/Go-Busters crossover fanfic...

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.


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#61 The Predaking

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Posted 25 February 2020 - 11:01 AM

There is a lot of stretching that you would have to do to fit just what I have read into the G1 cartoon continuity.


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Posted 25 February 2020 - 11:12 AM

Y'all arguing over this as if more than 0.1% of the people who're gonna buy this are gonna care about how this fits into the greater continuity.


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Posted 25 February 2020 - 11:28 AM

Good point!

 

Buy it, read it, and decide for yourself.


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Posted 25 February 2020 - 11:43 AM

There is a lot of stretching that you would have to do to fit just what I have read into the G1 cartoon continuity.

 

The longstanding conception was that the FSRLTF manga, at least, took place after Season 2 before Scramble City, as described here.

 

Plus, let's not forget just how many continuity errors were had by the G1 cartoon in and of itself. ;)


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 25 February 2020 - 04:45 PM

But regardless, the earlier manga was put into the cartoon continuity by the big Kiss Players timelines of 2006/2007. Citation 51 specifically links to FSRLTF #2.

"The Autobots built Metroplex" is not a manga-original concept at all. That is clearly not the intention that exists in the original text and you know it.


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Posted 25 February 2020 - 05:20 PM

 

There is a lot of stretching that you would have to do to fit just what I have read into the G1 cartoon continuity.

 

The longstanding conception was that the FSRLTF manga, at least, took place after Season 2 before Scramble City, as described here.

 

Plus, let's not forget just how many continuity errors were had by the G1 cartoon in and of itself. ;)

 

 

That last part is true enough. It's also why I think that any debate about whether a piece of media is "in continuity" with a different piece of media is a foolhardy argument.

 

It is, except when it isn't.

Like everything else.


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#67 Chris McFeely

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Posted 26 February 2020 - 05:29 AM

I would assume the talk of "establishing a parallel canon separate from American G1" is a way of saying that these manga are the starting point of the larger Japanese G1 continuity, which is a separate continuity from the US one.

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Posted 26 February 2020 - 05:34 PM

I would assume the talk of "establishing a parallel canon separate from American G1" is a way of saying that these manga are the starting point of the larger Japanese G1 continuity, which is a separate continuity from the US one.

 

I'm with Chris here: Occam's razor.



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Posted 10 March 2020 - 07:14 PM

My copy came in the mail today from Amazon. I already read through it all. Its a little campy but all in all I really am digging it. Cant wait for the next two volumes!

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Posted 10 March 2020 - 08:35 PM

It IS on Comixology! Wooooooo!  :love  :)  :o  :thumbsup


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Posted 10 March 2020 - 09:43 PM

It IS on Comixology! Wooooooo!  :love  :)  :o  :thumbsup


Bought it both physical and media, as I want it in both forms.

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Posted 11 March 2020 - 12:10 PM

 

It IS on Comixology! Wooooooo!  :love  :)  :o  :thumbsup


Bought it both physical and media, as I want it in both forms.

 

It would be weird if you bought both and didn't want it in both forms.

 

My copy came in the mail today from Amazon. I already read through it all. Its a little campy but all in all I really am digging it. Cant wait for the next two volumes!

I had time to get about half way in, but it really stresses the point that Hirofumi Ichikawa made decades ago that Transformers has always skewed much younger in Japan than in the US, right from the start.  The Marvel G1 comics were never what I considered great, but they definitely aimed for an older market.  I'm super curious to see where it goes, though, having never sat down and sifted through all the scanlations back in the day.


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Posted 11 March 2020 - 03:06 PM

As someone who did this for a couple translations, I can really appreciate the work and effort done here by Brandon at a much larger scale (and more expertly I might add).

 

 


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Posted 24 March 2020 - 02:11 PM

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 05:25 PM

I guess I shouldnt be surprised it kept the Japanese reading style but I am a bit disappointed.

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 07:28 PM

I don't think an official translation has done that in 15 years?



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Posted 24 March 2020 - 07:33 PM

I remember when Blade of the Immortal was released when mirror flipping the manga was still commonplace. It was more than a little awkward.

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 07:49 PM

I don't think an official translation has done that in 15 years?


Quite possibly.

This is the first manga Ive ever bought so Im decades behind the times.

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Posted 24 March 2020 - 11:43 PM

The only recently release manga that reads left to right I can think of were the Astro Boy Omnibus releases by Dark Horse from 2015 to 2017 and that was only because they were reprints of the manga's original release from 2002 to 2004 and rightly figured anyone still a fan of Astro Boy wouldn't be used to reading right to left.


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Posted 25 March 2020 - 10:51 AM

Mine came two days after the release date, and I love it! It's obvious that it was made for kids, but I don't care. I just love reading G1 media I've never gotten to read before.

I already have Vol. 2 pre-ordered and can't wait for that too!

 

As for the continuity discussion, I'd always heard that the manga (til Masterforce) was in continuity with JG1, it was just like the adventures that were happening "off screen" or "between episodes". Which is how I'm choosing to see it, as it's finally given me an excuse to add my Omnibots to my 86/87 display!

 

The Marvel G1 comics were never what I considered great, but they definitely aimed for an older market.

Or did they just not pander to kids?

 

I guess I shouldnt be surprised it kept the Japanese reading style but I am a bit disappointed.

 

The only recently release manga that reads left to right I can think of were the Astro Boy Omnibus releases by Dark Horse from 2015 to 2017 and that was only because they were reprints of the manga's original release from 2002 to 2004 and rightly figured anyone still a fan of Astro Boy wouldn't be used to reading right to left.

My son got a couple box sets of the Pokemon manga by VIZ for Xmas and they all read right-to-left too.




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