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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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Posted 05 August 2019 - 11:03 PM

Well, you said someone was going to get hurt.

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 04:21 AM

Chapter 9: Dreadwing/Stealth Assault/Ace Evader (1994) and ATB Megatron (1995)

Another "barely-released" figure (or more specifically, a two-pack) that was actually redecoed from a two-pack originally released in 1994.

In the United States, the original 1994 release was marketed as "Dreadwing", with the second included figure, Smokescreen, only acknowledged by name on the back of the packaging, while the front of the packaging merely features an "Includes robot/jet fighter!" call-out. Both Dreadwing and Smokescreen also consititute some of the earliest instances of the aforementioned practive of "name-slapping", with Dreadwing (a single individual stealth bomber) considerably deviating from his Generation 1 namesake (the combined jet form of Decepticons Dreadwind and Darkwing), and Smokescreen (a Decepticon fighter jet) having virtually nothing to do with his Generation 1 namesake (an Autobot sports/racing car).
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In Europe, Dreadwing was given various bizarrely technical names, whereas Smokescreen wasn't even acknowledged as an individual character at all: The English/Spanish/Portuguese packaging marketed Dreadwing as "Stealth Assault", with even the bio on the back of the packaging referring to him by that name, while Smokescreen was merely identified as "robot/jet fighter" on both the front and the back of the packaging.
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That name wasn't made up by Hasbro UK on the spot, however: The same article from Go Figure! magazine that first identified the "Hero" figures of Optimus Prime and Megatron as "Combat Hero Optimus Prime" and "Combat Hero Megatron" also referred to the otherwise nameless figures' combined form as the "Stealth Assault ATB" (described as a "two-deception combination", featuring a captialization and a spelling error).
Stealth-Assault-ATB-Go-Figure-Magazine.j

The name "Dreadwing" does appear on the same poster distributed by Hasbro UK that features the European 1994 Generation 2 line-up that also identified the European "Sureshot" and "Archforce" figures as a "Hero Autobot" and a "Hero Decepticon", respectively:
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One theory is that Hasbro had originally intended for the combined "Stealth Assault ATB" to be named "Dreadwing", mirroring his Generation 1 namesake's status as the combined form of Dreadwind and Darkwing. However, the then-recent Darkwing Duck series by Disney, which had its own toyline by Playmates released in 1991, might have caused Hasbro to refrain from using the name "Darkwing", which would partially explain the rather odd naming choice of "Smokescreen".

Meanwhile, the French/Dutch/German packaging essentially gave the set the same treatment, except instead of "Stealth Assault", Dreadwing was marketed as "Ace Avader", and accordingly referred to as such in the bio on the back of the packaging. Even worse, Smokescreen's very existence as a separate jet/robot wasn't even acknowledged in the French version: While the German version more or less accurately translated the English version's call-out "Also includes robot/jet fighter!", except simply identifying him as a "Flugzeug" ("plane", thereby omitting the "fighter" portion), and the Dutch version misinterpreted the call-out as alternatively referring to the two individual figures included, making it "Inhoud: Robot én een vliegtuig" ("Contains: Robot and a plane"), the French call-out, "Replique de l'avion furtif" ("replica of a stealth plane"), instead felt the need to highlight Dreadwing/Ace Evader's own alternate mode while ignoring the second figure entirely.
Ace-Evader-FR-NL-DE.jpg

Another oddity is that the toy's instructions labeled it as a "Heroic Autobot", despite being labeled as a Decepticon on its packaging. This affected not only the United States "Dreadwing" version, but also the European "Stealth Assault" and "Ace Evader" versions. Could this be another hint at a last-minute identity change?
Dreadwing-Stealth-Assault-Ace-Evader-ins

Like with the Cyberjets, I couldn't find any evidence that Dreadwing/Stealth Assault/Ace Evader was ever available in Italian packaging, nor could I find an Italian market name for him.

For 1995, Hasbro had intended to release redecos of Dreadwing and Smokescreen that were to be marketed as "Megatron" and "Starscream" (that dreaded name-slapping yet again), presumably as a counterpart to Laser Optimus Prime. Although the cancellation of the Generation 2 line prevented a wide-scale release of this two-pack, it was available in a limited test market in Ohio. Like the other 1995 releases, the packaging features the "post-G2" packaging design lacking the actual "Generation 2" moniker, and like the US release of Dreadwing before, the product is primarily marketed as "Advanced Tactical Bomber Megatron", with Starscream only identified by name on the back of the packaging, while the front of the packaging only features the now infamous "Includes robot/jet fighter!" call-out.
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The decos for Megatron and Starscream are very similar, but not entirely identical to their redecos later released by Takara for the version of the Beast Wars line (specifically the portion marketed through the Beast Wars II cartoon in Japan), as "BB" (Dreadwing/Megatron) and "Starscream" (Smokescreen/Starscream).
G2-ATB-Megatron-BWII-BB.jpg G2-Starscream-BWII-Starscream.jpg


Recommended additional reading:
  • TFU.info features some photos of ATB Megatron and Starscream >here<.
  • Transformers At The Moon features a gallery of ATB Megatron >here< and of Starscream >here<, including comparisons with all other decos and releases of those sculpts.
Acknowledgements:

Edited by Nevermore, 18 August 2019 - 07:53 AM.

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:55 AM

Also added scans of a Hasbro UK poster to chapter 3 that refers to "Sureshot" and "Archforce" as "Hero Autobot" and "Hero Decepticon", respectively.
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Posted 18 August 2019 - 08:56 AM

Chapter 10: The Power Masters/Powermasters, part 1

We've reached the final "proper" chapter. Due to its length, I'm going going to split it up into two parts again.

Among the 1995 figures, these are without a doubt some of the oddest. Apparently, they were such a late addition to the 1995 line-up that they weren't even featured in Hasbro's Toy Fair 1995 catalog! Despite their name, the "Power Masters" have no relation to the Generation 1 Powermasters. Instead, their shared gimmick is a pull-back engine similar to the Generation 1 Jumpstarters, the Battlechargers and the Throttlebots. And like the latter two subgroups in particular, they also not only have very simplistic transformations, but also less than impressive robot modes. A widespread rumor among the fandom claims that they were designed entirely in-house at Hasbro, without Takara's involvement. This is in part fueled by the fact that they allegedly only feature Hasbro copyrights, with no mention of Takara whatsoever. But this is actually not entirely true, as you will see.


Anyway. Due to the cancellation of the Generation 2 line, the Power Masters were never released in the United States, but they were released in Europe. They're often claimed to have been "European exclusives", but this is not accurate either. More on that later.

The assortment consists of two Autobots, Meanstreak and "Ironhide" (again, another case of name-slapping, with no resemblance to his Generation 1 namesake), and two Decepticons, Bulletbike and Staxx. Here they are in their English/Spanish/Portuguese packaging:
Powermasters-wave-1-Meanstreak-EN-ES-PT. Powermasters-wave-1-Ironhide-EN-ES-PT.jp Powermasters-wave-1-Bulletbike-EN-ES-PT. Powermasters-wave-1-Staxx-EN-ES-PT.jpg

As you'll notice, the assortment's name is spelled "Powermasters" as one word on European packaging, which is not at all unusual for the 1995 European releases (see also the "Lasercycles", "Autorollers" and "Gobots").

For the French/Dutch/German packaging, the assortment was given an additional French name as per usual, in this case "Les Maitres du Bitume" ("the masters of asphalt"; a slight misspelling there, as the French word "maître" should actually be spelled with an circumflex accent above the letter "i"). Likewise, the individual characters were also given additional French names again: Meanstreak was named "Fulgure" ("streak"), Ironhide was named "Depisteur" (a possibly made up word that roughly translates as "tracker"; again a slight misspelling, as the verb "dépister" it's derived from is spelled with acute accent above the first "e"), Bulletbike was named "Side-Car" (the English word, spelled as one word in the cross-sell but with a hyphen in the toy's own bio), and Staxx was named "Routard" ("backpacker").
Powermasters-wave-1-Meanstreak-FR-NL-DE. Powermasters-wave-1-Ironhide-FR-NL-DE.jp Powermasters-wave-1-Bulletbike-FR-NL-DE. Powermasters-wave-1-Staxx-FR-NL-DE.jpg

For GiG's Italian packaging version, the assortment name was changed to "Turbomaster" (no plural-"s" again because of Italian grammar rules), which is particular odd because the actual Turbomasters released in Europe in 1992 were also named "Turbomaster" in Italy. Again, the individual characters were also renamed for the Italian market, with Meanstreak becoming "Rocket", Ironhide becoming "Proton", Bulletbike becoming "Superbike", and Staxx being the only one who was actually given a "genuine" Italian name, "Tuono" ("thunder").
Turbomaster-wave-1-Rocket-IT.jpg Turbomaster-wave-1-Proton-IT.jpg Turbomaster-wave-1-Superbike-IT.jpg Turbomaster-wave-1-Tuono-IT.jpg

Now regarding those aforementioned copyrights, you'll notice that all three European packaging variants (English/Spanish/Portuguese, French/Dutch/German, and Italian) feature the standard "© 1994 Hasbro International Inc. All rights reserved." note, but lack the "Manufactured under license from Takara Co., Ltd." note at the very end that can be found on the contemporary European packaging for the "Heroes", the "Mini-Jets", the "Gobots" and "Laser Rod Optimus Prime". As noted above, some fans have interpreted this as to mean that these toys were designed in-house at Hasbro, without Takara's involvement. Hoooowever, the European packaging for the "Lasercycles" (which can be seen in chapter 4) as well as for the "Autorollers" and "Stealth Assault"/"Ace Evader" don't mention Takara either, and I don't think anyone is seriously going to argue that any of those were designed without Takara's involvement!
Autorollers-Road-Block-Excavators-Rollo- Stealth-Assault-Ace-Evader-copyrights.jp

Continued in part 2!


Recommended additional reading:Acknowledgements:

Edited by Nevermore, 18 August 2019 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 09:04 AM

Chapter 10: The Power Masters/Powermasters, part 2

Now as I said before, the "Powermasters" were never released in the United States, but they were released in Australia and New Zealand, in the same packaging that would have been used for their intended US market release. Similar to other assortments whose names were spelled as one word in Europe but as two words in the US, the "Powermasters" were spelled "Power Masters" on their Australian/New Zealand packaging, and generally, the packaging uses the same overall design as all the other 1995 releases.
Power-Masters-wave-1-Meanstreak-NZ-AU.jp Power-Masters-wave-1-Ironhide-NZ-AU.jpg Power-Masters-wave-1-Bulletbike-NZ-AU.jp Power-Masters-wave-1-Staxx-NZ-AU.jpg

Here is a direct side-by-side comparison between all four figures' English/Spanish/Portuguese European packaging and their English-only Australian/New Zealand packaging, highlighting the considerably different sizes of the cardbacks.
Power-Masters-wave-1-Meanstreak-UK-NZ-AU Power-Masters-wave-1-Ironhide-UK-NZ-AU.j Power-Masters-wave-1-Bulletbike-UK-NZ-AU Power-Masters-wave-1-Staxx-UK-NZ-AU.jpg

What's really weird is that the English-only packaging for the "Power Masters" that was available in Australia and New Zealand was also available in the United Kingdom, as gray imports just like the Cyberjets detailed in chapter 5. And like those Cyberjets, these imported Power Masters also sport import stickers by MBC Ltd., that prolific importing company.
Power-Masters-wave-1-Ironhide-UK-import. Power-Masters-wave-1-Bulletbike-UK-impor

As you can see in these photos, the "United States" packaging for the Power Masters does include the "Manufactured under license from Takara Co., Ltd." note that's missing from the European packaging versions, which further disproves the notion that these were supposedly Hasbro-only creations.

Now this is the only wave of Power Masters/Powermasters in existence. Various mock-ups that have come to light depict Ironhide's package art in a color scheme more reminiscent of Meanstreak or Staxx, with the character's name alternately as "Belzone", "Pothole" or "Light Speed" (and the assortment even named "Superfast" in one instance, which was also an early working name for the Go-Bots assortment, as noted above). Fun Publications' "Ask Vector Prime" Facebook column (which had specifically consulted with a contact at Hasbro for this answer) confirmed that this was merely an early color scheme for the toy that ultimately ended up as Ironhide, thus making him even more of a case of name-slapping.
Power-Masters-wave-2-Belzone-US-mockup.j Power-Masters-wave-2-Pothole-US-mockup.j Power-Masters-wave-2-Light-Speed-US-mock


Acknowledgements:
  • Big thanks to Liokaiser1989 of Antique Transformers and More for letting me use his photos.
  • On top of that, very special thanks go out to Jeremy of Soundwaves Oblivion, who even went so far and took all-new, high quality photos for me to use here!

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 09:13 AM

Some minor maintenance and updates:
  • Added a scan of the 1995 Hasbro Toy Fair catalog that refers to Laser Optimus Prime as "Lazer Optimus Prime" and a new/better photo of the European French/Dutch/German version of "Laser Rod Optimus Prime" to chapter 8
  • Added a brief section including photos regarding the instructions of Dreadwing/Stealth Assault/Ace Evader to chapter 9
Also, two more "epilogue" chapters are coming in the following weeks.

Edited by Nevermore, 18 August 2019 - 09:16 AM.

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Posted 18 August 2019 - 06:07 PM

According to this TFW2005 thread, the unreleased Go-Bots Racing Rig was later released as part of Target's "Kool Toyz" range, which I find somewhat dubious since all the images for Target's "Kool Toyz" range I could find show that it's a sub-line branding for Hot Wheels, a Mattel line.
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Posted 18 August 2019 - 06:23 PM

There's a "similar" (but not really) truck that they probably thought was the same one.

 

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 10:57 AM

Since the "Gobots" were reportedly rather rare in the United Kingdom, it's unclear if these were ever released in English/Spanish/Portuguese packaging at all (or Italian packaging, for that matter); however, the "solid" versions were available in French/Dutch/German packaging. Just like with the wave 2 Cyberjets/"Mini-Jets", however, they weren't sold as "Optimus Prime" and "Megatron", but rather as "Firecracker/Turbo-Diablo" and "Blowout/Turbo-Comete". Even the package art for "Firecracker" keeps the original colors for the head. I don't have photo of the back of the packaging for that "Blowout", but since the eBay seller identified him as "Blowout" rather than "Megatron", I feel safe to assume that this is indeed the name printed on the back of the packaging.
Gobots-wave-2-Firecracker-FR-NL-DE.jpg Gobots-wave-2-Blowout-FR-NL-DE.jpg

Wish I still had my G2 Gobots and packaging, unfortunately I sold them on over a decade ago! (Possibly longer than that.) I bought mine in Toys R Us in the UK, and they had multilingual packaging similar to that style but with English language writing, the Generation 2 sub-branding,* and were all cast in transparent plastics. Of course I no longer have any evidence of this, but hope this information is useful.

 

* I didn't actually know until reading this thread that the Generation 2 title was dropped in 1995 in North America.


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Posted 19 August 2019 - 01:12 PM

* I didn't actually know until reading this thread that the Generation 2 title was dropped in 1995 in North America.

 

 

 

 

Wow, me either. 

 

Does that somehow make them G1 toys? 



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Posted 19 August 2019 - 05:17 PM

Wish I still had my G2 Gobots and packaging, unfortunately I sold them on over a decade ago! (Possibly longer than that.) I bought mine in Toys R Us in the UK, and they had multilingual packaging similar to that style but with English language writing, the Generation 2 sub-branding,* and were all cast in transparent plastics. Of course I no longer have any evidence of this, but hope this information is useful.

In other words, you had the wave 1 versions I covered in part 2 of chapter 7?
Gobots-wave-1-Firecracker-EN-ES-PT.jpg Gobots-wave-1-Blowout-EN-ES-PT.jpg

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 05:23 AM

Indeed I did.
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Posted 25 August 2019 - 02:59 PM

So the two planned "coda" chapters aren't going to happen anytime soon. Basically, I'm still missing a lot of (good) images, and on top of that, I was explicitly denied permission to use several images that were going to form a crucial part of those chapters.

It's not a big deal really - fortunately, the "main" portion of this topic is done.
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Posted 25 August 2019 - 04:38 PM

Well, its too bad about the coda chapters, but thank you for the extensive time and research you put into these! It was interesting to see how the wave system evolved on Transformers, and the background on some of the more obscure G2 figures was actually quite fascinating!
Again, Thank You!

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:11 AM

Apologies for bumping an old thread, but a bump over at TFW2005 resulted in new replies which in turn led to some minor additions.

 

- The early "gray" G2 Dinobots were released in Canada! Added a photo of a gray G2 Slag in Canadian packaging.

- I must have been overworked when I originally wrote that paragraph, but the "red" G2 Snarl in Canadian packaging obviously doesn't have recolored package art! The distinction appears to be this: Color variants with unchanged original color package art for the United States and Canada, only the last color variant of each figure with recolored package art to match the toy for Europe.  

- Someone recalls having purchased the orange G2 Constructicons at Mills Fleet Farm, thus putting another nail in the coffin of the "KB Toys exclusive" myth.


Edited by Nevermore, 06 April 2020 - 04:11 AM.

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Big thanks to my dad for playing along with this visual recreation.

#76 Have a Pickle

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 10:13 PM

Still one of the best "articles" ever. Great job, Nevermore.

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Posted 07 April 2020 - 07:44 AM

1) Weird. I figured a character called Meanstreak would be a Decepticon.

 

2) Take the most recent Brawn/Outback figure and remake it into Ironhide.



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Posted 07 April 2020 - 10:33 AM

Meanstreak does have the Decepticon-logo version of the TF logo on the sides of his car mode, if it helps.



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Posted 07 April 2020 - 12:13 PM

I prefer Peenstreak.

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Posted 07 April 2020 - 04:35 PM

Meanstreak does have the Decepticon-logo version of the TF logo on the sides of his car mode, if it helps.

I can kind of see it.





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