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@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 01:33 PM)

Also you have Bayonetta and a bunch of Fire Emblem people.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 01:33 PM)

...I mean, Tales character. Probably up to/for it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2019 - 01:26 PM)

But what if I need to kill a god? Or several of them?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 11:25 AM)

Kratos is allowed, but only the one from Tales of Symphonia

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2019 - 10:56 AM)

So no Kratos?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 10:42 AM)

In any case I'd rather have another Fire Emblem character than another character from a PlayStation exclusive game who teeeeeechnically was in a spinoff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 10:39 AM)

Kong had his name on the games first, but Mario was the protagonist first. It's debatable.

@  Rycochet : (17 June 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Wouldn't Mario be the one spun off from the Donkey Kong franchise, given that Kong was first?

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2019 - 05:19 AM)

I would count Wario and Yoshi, but not DK (might be because I wasn't even aware DK was spun off from the Mario franchise until I was in my mid-20s, but whatever)

@  unluckiness : (17 June 2019 - 04:13 AM)

But to be fair, Corrin is the only one I particularly dislike and it's really more boredom due to their blandness as characters

@  unluckiness : (17 June 2019 - 04:09 AM)

It would depend on whether or not you count DK, Wario and Yoshi as part of the Mario franchise or separate. Scratch that, there are more Mario characters even with just the mushroom symbol people but it's a close call.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2019 - 02:55 AM)

You'd figure Fire Emblem would have enough characters in Smash. Kinda feels like there's more FE characters than Mario characters.

@  unluckiness : (16 June 2019 - 01:20 AM)

And for hug's sake, I hope that the new Fire Emblem's PC isn't one of the DLC

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 June 2019 - 04:11 PM)

Smash Bros could never touch a new franchise again, and I'd still have laundry lists of side characters and villains I'd love to see included.

@  unluckiness : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)


@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)

cuz i wanna fight a boat

@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:35 AM)

if we must have another zelda character, id want the king of red lion

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 10:38 PM)

I would unironically love Tingle in Smash.

@  Paladin : (14 June 2019 - 02:06 PM)

they HAVE to put Travis Touchdown in at some point now, right???

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 June 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Right after Shaq.

@  Locoman : (14 June 2019 - 12:36 PM)

When will we get Bluster Kong in Smash?

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 08:20 AM)

The last three DLC characters are Tingle, Charles Barkley and L Tetris block with Reverse L Tetris block as an Echo fighter.

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Pipe dream Smash entry: The Prince from the Katamari series. :D

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 06:35 AM)

The space/time around them gets frozen too! ....or something.

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 06:01 AM)

I still want to find out how freezing people suspends them in midair

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 June 2019 - 02:45 AM)

We really need Subzero or Scorpion in Smash. Violence aside, they are pretty big gaming icons as well.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 08:18 PM)

Given Nintendo's relationship with Tecmo, I'm still waiting for Ryu Hyabusa

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 June 2019 - 07:19 PM)

I'm still waiting for Doomguy.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 06:47 PM)

I just started watching High School DxD (don't judge me...) and I caught on the Nintendo Treehouse some request Rias for Smash lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 June 2019 - 11:25 AM)

I have having to watch a video to find out why someone wanted me to watch the video

@  Nevermore : (11 June 2019 - 04:58 PM)

I remember when the TPB for The Dark Age 2 was delayed for an entire year...

@  Trpodeca : (11 June 2019 - 03:55 AM)

I just wish they'd release the Astro City paperback trades.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:31 AM)

As an open-minded heterosexual, I wouldn't mind seeing more of that.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:29 AM)

Currently in the process of re-reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City. Big props for the issue featuring the "Dancing Master" and its portrayal of non-stereotypical gay characters.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 June 2019 - 05:25 AM)

Don't phone charges often contain special rapid charge circuitry, though? The voltage might be higher too, given the selfie stick probably has a very basic battery.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 June 2019 - 11:28 PM)

Glad to be of assistance!

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 10:32 PM)

*checks selfie stick and phone charger* huh. perfect fit. thanks!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 June 2019 - 09:58 PM)

I would use the USB-to-AC adapter that came with my iPhone, though I gather you must have a different brand of cell phone.

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:42 PM)

In that case a generic adapter is probably your best bet, then. Keep in mind a lot of hotels now have plain USB outlets in rooms too, though; but I guess that's not guaranteed

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 05:31 PM)

yeah, i just need something small to plug into the wall. im not sure im taking my laptop on my trip later this year and i want a way to charge my stuff

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:04 PM)

They also have wall outlets with built-in USB in addition to the two regular plugs; I installed those around my place so I have USB ports everywhere

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:02 PM)

You might be able to get a generic adapter to use with it at Radio Shack if you know the appropriate voltages or whatever

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:01 PM)

It came with a USB cable with no AC adapter? A lot of lower priced electronics do that, presumably assuming that USB is pretty ubiquitous

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 05:00 PM)

Yeah, must be, I guess.

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 04:59 PM)

maybe having bluetooth has something to do with it?

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 04:58 PM)

the one i got has an on/off button, and came with a usb to attach to my laptop to charge it. its this one https://www.walmart....ility/432985497

@  TM2-Megatron : (09 June 2019 - 04:51 PM)

Selfie sticks have power? I thought they were to just hold the phone away from you

@  Telly : (09 June 2019 - 04:44 PM)

need some technical help.how do i charge my selfie stick without using my laptop? is there some kind of portable charger? i know it sounds like a dumb question, but i dont know very much about this stuff

@  MEDdMI : (08 June 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Different songs or overdosing don't work for me. My brain can play multiple songs at once. Best to do something else to distract me.

@  Xellos : (08 June 2019 - 05:36 PM)

Still, the worst is having the last song I hear before going into work being stuck in my head all day.

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#1 Greebtron

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 10:22 AM

Wasn't sure if this should go in the collection forum or general.  


To keep links to a minimum, I will post each subfolder with a written list of contents.


MP 400 Dungeons & Dragons


Development Bible

5 In Search Of The Dungeon Master full script
6 Beauty And The Bogbeast full script
7 The Prison Without Walls full script
8 Servant Of Evil full script
9 Quest Of The Skeleton Warrior full script
10 The Garden Of Zinn full script
11 The Box full script
12 The Lost Children full script
16 The Girl Who Dreamed Tomorrow full storyboard
17 The Treasure Of Tardos full script
18 City At The Edge Of Midnight full storyboard
19 The Traitor full script
20 Day Of The Dungeon Master full script
21 The Last Illusion full script
22 The Dragon's Graveyard full script
23 Child Of The Stargazer full script
26 Dungeon At The Heart Of Dawn full script
28 Requiem full script
33 Cave Of The Faerie Dragons full storyboard
CBS Notes 24/01/84
CBS Audience Scores (Season 1)

MP 600 GI Joe


05 Cobra Stops The World outline and full script (In three parts. Only known example of both outline and full script available online)
06 Jungle Trap full script with story-editing and Hasbro-mandated changes
44 Flint's Vacation, Act II storyboard
4057 GI Joe: The Movie (February 12th, 1986 draft)




MP 700 Transformers
4023-4024-4025 More Than Meets The Eye full script (revised 13.03.84)
01 Transport To Oblivion full script (final)
02 Roll For It full script (final)
03 Divide and Conquer full script (final)
04 Fire In The Sky full script (final)
05 S.O.S Dinobots full script (revised Friedman)
06 Fire On The Mountain full script (revised Friedman)
07 War Of The Dinobots full script (final)
08 The Ultimate Doom, part 1 full script (final)
09 The Ultimate Doom, part 2 full script (final)
10 The Ultimate Doom, part 3 full script (final)
11 Countdown To Extinction full script (final)
12 A Plague Of Insecticons full script (final)
13 Heavy Metal Wat full script (final), full storyboards
24 Day Of The Machines full script (revised Friedman)
25 Enter The Nightbird partial script (revised Friedman, missing pages 40-42)
26 A Prime Problem partial script (missing pages: Cover, Cast, 1, remaining pages after 34)
27 The Core partial script (missing all pages before 15)
28 The Insecticon Syndrome full script (revised Friedman)
29 Dinobot Island, part 1 full script (revised Friedman)
30 Dinobot Island, part 2 full script (revised Friedman)
31 The Master Builders full script (revised Friedman)
32 Auto-Berserk full script (revised Friedman)
33 Microbots full script (unedited)
34 Megatron's Master Plan, part 1 full script (revised Friedman)
38 Blaster Blues full script (revised Friedman)
39 A Decepticon Raider In King Arthur's Court full script (revised Friedman)
41 The God Gambit X 2 (unedited original + revised Friedman)
42 Make Tracks (revised Friedman)
61 30 Seconds Over Megatron AKA Starscream's Brigade full script (unedited)
62 The Revenge Of Bruticus (final)
106 Fight Or Flee full script (final)
115 Return Of Optimus Prime, part 1 full script (final)
116 Return Of Optimus Prime, part 2 partial script (final, missing pages 12-18)
Cast list file (01-116)
Synopsis file (01-116)
4034 The Transformers The Movie scripts: Second Ron Friedman outline and draft + undated Sunbow revision draft





MP 900 Defenders Of The Earth


Show bible

06 Root Of Evil full script

03 Escape From Mongo full storyboard

29 Terror In Time full storyboard

38 Audie And Tweak full script

39 The Defense Never Rests full storyboard

45 The Golden Queen, Act II storyboard

48 The Future Comes But Once, Act I storyboard

58 The Deadliest Battle partial storyboard (Missing KShin's anti-drug speech at the end)

59 100 Proof Highway, Act I storyboard





MP 5205 Jem


33 Trick Or Techrat: We Can Change It, version 2 storyboard





MP 5206 Inhumanoids


01 Cypheroid dialogue script

02 The Surma Plan dialogue script

03 Cult Of Darkness dialogue script

04 Negative Polarity dialogue script

05 The Evil Eye dialogue script

06 Primal Passions full script

07 The Masterson Team dialogue script

08 Auger For...President? dialogue script

09 The Evil That Lies Within, Part 1 dialogue script (The Inhumanoids episodes 1-3)

10 The Evil That Lies Within, Part 2 dialogue script (The Inhumanoids episodes 4-6)

11 The Inhumanoids, Episode 11 full script (Part 4, Act II of The Evil That Lies Within)

12 The Evil That Lies Within, Part 4 dialogue script (The Inhumanoids episodes 10-12)

13 The Evil That Lies Within, Part 5 dialogue script (The Inhumanoids episodes 13-15)





870108 Visionaries


01 The Age Of Magic Begins dialogue script

02 The Dark Hand Of Treachery dialogue script.  Includes separate script for Jonathan Harris (Mortdredd) ADR session.

03 Quest For The Dragon's Eye dialogue script (Act III missing)

04 The Price Of Freedom full script

05 Feryl Steps Out full script

06 Lion Hunt dialogue script

07 The Overthrow Of Merklynn dialogue script

08 The Power Of The Wise dialogue script

09 Horn Of Unicron, Claw Of Dragon dialogue script

10 Trail Of The Three Wizards dialogue script

11 Sorcery Squared dialogue script

12 Honor Among Thieves dialogue script

13 Dawn Of The Sun Imps dialogue script



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Posted 06 June 2019 - 05:06 PM

Took a chance and came up with two more TF scripts: The actual script scan versions of 30 Seconds Over Megatron (Starscream's Brigade) and Revenge of Bruticus. As opposed to the Word file transcripts that have been around forever.
One thing about Revenge that is glaring on the scan version that we couldn't pick up on the Word version: On page 42, the whole bit about Bruticus' fail-safe mechanism was a story editor insert. As Larry Strauss has written it Prime sneaks up on his opponent, shoots him in the spine and paralyses him. Then points a gun at his head and says "Temporary paraylsis. Sing the password or I'll make it permanent!".
Between this and what we've told about War Dawn. I think the office was starting to regret telling the writers to up the violence level ahead of the movie.

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 06:40 PM


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 09:30 PM

That's pretty awesome. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 08:44 AM

OK, it's movie time. 



In addition to a mirror of the Ron Friedman draft script from the auctions, I've bought and put up the undated Sunbow revision draft from Script City.  This is the actual scan of the script that has been floating around in transcript form for ages.  Which, if someone typed up the whole thing off a paper copy way back then, shows some serious dedication.


GI Joe The Movie:

Put up the script scan from the Shout Factory DVD.  This is the penultimate draft from February 12th, 1986.  The final draft is dated February 26th and the only reasonable way to get a copy of that is to put down $50 at Buzz Dixon's convention table (He sells copies of that and some of his other scripts).


I've read through it and here is a highlight list of deleted/changed scenes:


pg. 54 The infamous Zarana topless scene


pg. 68 takes time out from the story to have a whole page of reference on Cobra-La and their wholly organic society.  I get the feeling a lot of this started out as Friedman's ideas from the original outline that Buzz Dixon cherry-picked for this script.  It's in the same whacked-out wheelhouse as the TFTM draft.


pg. 85 After Cobra Commander has been mutated,the Crimson Twins ponder: (In speech gimmick) "After we eradicate G.I Joe --- and the rest of the world how -- will we establish -- a financial empire --(Both) in a society that doesn't use money! (they look at one another) we must dwell on this!"


pg. 114 As Falcon breaks into the Terrordrome's radio room, he fights with a Tele-Viper who is trying to jam a soldering iron into Falcon's eye with "DIE MAGGOT!" appearing on the visor.  Falcon moves, sending the soldering iron into an open socket, electrocuting the Tele-Viper.


pg. 123 Hector Ramirez makes his cameo as the American and Soviet envoys at the UN are shouting and accusing each other about the spores in orbit.


Between blowing up the Terrordrome and arriving at the second B.E.T battle.  There are intercut scenes where Falcon, Slaughter and the Renegades are in running battles with various Cobra vehicles, all the while their radio is being jammed to prevent them warning HQ.


pg. 142-144 No ambiguity here, Duke is dead


pg. 145 As Serpentor makes his triumphant homecoming, the Crimson Twins try to sell a digital watch to a Cobra-La Noble.  This comes back up on pg. 171 during the final battle,  where Shipwreck points out that ALL the Cobra-La Nobles they've taken down have digital watches.


pg. 147 Duke's funeral.  Where his coffin is raised up by hover-thrusters, above which Hawk, Scarlett and other Joes create a "bed" of lasers from their pistols.  The thrusters cut out, the coffin drops and is vaporised.  The following scenes of Falcon demanding to go on the mission to Cobra-La and being refused appear to have audio editing to remove references to Duke.


pg. 183 Serpentor is dead.  After we last saw him spinning out of control on his Air Chariot.  The next time we see him is when Golobulus is fleeing Cobra-La and stops to pick up his body, claiming "Death cannot defeat you, Serpentor! I shall reclone you more powerful than ever!"

I guess if Sunbow had gotten a season 3 and Hasbro demanded Serpentor be brought back, their out was to make him Weyoun without the charm.


Get a nice little parting quip from Shipwreck after Cobra-La's explosion, as he pulls himself out of the snow "That tears it!  I want a transfer to Tahiti!"

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 11:25 AM

This is pretty awesome.  I wish we had access to Ron Friedman's super early Joe and TFTM movie scripts, the one with the shapeshifting Nemesis Enforcer among other things.

Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 09:36 AM

Right, the last major piece for the time being dropped through my letterbox this afternoon.  The old BCI Eclipse box set of D&D which has scripts and storyboards to cover 19 out of 28 episodes (including Requiem).  I've only had time to read The Dragon's Graveyard so far.  Knowing how harmless and inoffensive the big three US networks wanted things, I can see why they lost their minds over this script.

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 11:47 AM

One last thing before I give my wallet a rest.  Cleaned out Script City and added the Defenders Of The Earth' early show bible and script for the aired pilot Root Of Evil.  These were both from the early days of the project under Larry Parr.  The production of the show ground to a halt for most of 1985 until Bryce Malek and Dick Robbins were tasked to relaunch it once they finished on Transformers.


That is part of why TF season 3 has such as a different lineup of both staff and freelancers:  Everyone had moved on to something else.

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:42 AM

Since updating forum posts is probably not gonna cut it, I decided to put a blog site together for easier browsing:



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:47 AM

Love your database and look forward to seeing how it will develop as you obtain more information.
For Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends and Dungeons & Dragons in particular, where were you able to find the episode airdates?
Confirmed airdates for the early Marvel Productions network series have proven to be hard to verify over the years. Most such airdate information I see elsewhere really look like the dates have been guessed, as they are invariably based on the episodes' production order, and seemingly air on consecutive weeks with no pre-empting, both of which are on the verge of stretching credibility.
Will you be adding information on the 1982 Hulk series in the future?

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 09:50 AM

Spider-man and D&D I got from wikipedia, and yeah I probably should take those airdates down when I get the chance.  Between Steve Gerber's allergy to deadlines on The Prison Without Walls and the controversy over The Dragon's Graveyard both causing production delay, those airdates are impossible.


If a show is not listed on the timeline, that is purely down to there being insufficient information to justify starting a new sheet.  So I'm at the mercy of collector' bias in terms of what has been saved over the years.  The Hulk show is tricky because nearly every combination I try in a search gives me a lot of the 80's live-action series or the 90's cartoon.


As I say on the blog, if anyone out there has material but doesn't want to do a full scan.  Then just a photo of dated cover sheets would be appreciated so it can be added to the timeline.

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 07:26 PM


Love your database and look forward to seeing how it will develop as you obtain more information.
For Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends and Dungeons & Dragons in particular, where were you able to find the episode airdates?
Confirmed airdates for the early Marvel Productions network series have proven to be hard to verify over the years. Most such airdate information I see elsewhere really look like the dates have been guessed, as they are invariably based on the episodes' production order, and seemingly air on consecutive weeks with no pre-empting, both of which are on the verge of stretching credibility.
Will you be adding information on the 1982 Hulk series in the future?




Managed to find some old fan sites from the 2000's for both Amazing Friends and the Hulk cartoons. 


From there I got the Hulk bible, which includes story ideas from Don Glut at the end of it.  Those story ideas?  Dinosaurs, Frankenstein's Monster and a Jeckyll & Hyde story.  Oh Don, never change  :p


Managed to piece together the storyboards for Origin Of The Spiderfriends into a single PDF from saving, converting and merging 98 jpg files.  If anyone wants to see what storyboards looked like once an animation director had slugged them, this is the best example.


Also was able to merge the Heavy Metal War storyboards into a single file as well.  I wanted to do the same with the three parts of Cobra Stops The World, but it's password-protected.

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