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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:15 AM

 

 

 

The ultimate Dark Fate is nobody from the first two knew how to save their money & still has to keep appearing in this hugging franchise.


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:31 AM

Calling this "Terminator 6" is like calling last year's Halloween movie "Halloween 11".


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:33 AM

The ultimate Dark Fate is nobody from the first two knew how to save their money & still has to keep appearing in this hugging franchise.


Linda Hamilton got $50million from her divorce from Cameron and is getting even more money from him for this since he's producing. Arnold is still worth a good $400million. Junkie Furlong has to slum con apppearances but the most he's in this movie is his 1990s face CG'd onto someone else for flashbacks.

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:52 AM

Looks like it could be cool.  :)


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 09:39 AM

Yeah, this oddly looks more appealing to me than the last three. Like it seems to know how seriously to take itself, where T3 and T4 looked like misses on opposite ends of the field.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 10:12 AM

Im...not impressed ...Im just kinda whelmed

 

Like thats the villain we are supposed to be afraid of? Arny had presents, Patrick was meniceing in his cold stare and delivery this guy.though looks goofy and that sucks all the tension out of the film and makes the film look dull and lifeless

 

But what do I know I'm also a fan of Genesis for how bonkers it was with its story and way over the top its action was


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 10:21 AM

The concept for Genisys was sound, but then they hugged it up by cramming too much crap in there, making an over-the-top story that was convoluted and confusing. If they stuck to just merging the timelines, Genisys could have been amazing.  



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Posted 23 May 2019 - 10:48 AM

Unfortunately every Terminator sequel has looked interesting from previews. It's when they have to put all the bits together...

I'm almost more curious about this as an indirect preview of whether Cameron can actually pull off the various Avatar sequels.
 
 
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 10:59 AM

Didn't they already do 'robot thinks they're human' in the Christian Bale one?



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Posted 23 May 2019 - 11:22 AM

Let's just hope they don't spoil the whole movie or clever twist with a future trailer.  That's been a constant theme with Terminator sequels.



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Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:15 PM

Maybe this one technically knows she's not human but has had a singularity moment.
 
 
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:28 PM

i like the way the villain looks...hes a regular guy...perfect as an infiltration unit.\

 

i think this looks fun, but then again i also really liked genisys. 

 

and salvation (though salvation was fixed with a comic series that i cant remember the name of.)


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 12:45 PM

Maybe this one technically knows she's not human but has had a singularity moment.

Yeah, that's how I was taking it.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 01:05 PM

Just once I want a Terminator movie to acknowledge that due to the constant time jumps back to the past and Skynet tech/code being brought to various points in the time stream that there is literally zero way to prevent Judgement Day from occurring even if Sarah and Kyle never manage to hook up at this point.

 

I'd also love if the fact Skynet is constantly sending back Terminators is more it's attempt to break the cyclical hell it finds itself trapped in (Since T3 and Genysis feature Post-War Skynet being uploaded into the systems of the past) than to actually try and change history. A movie about how Skynet is itself the victim, desperately trying to make the constant repetition of history end.



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Posted 23 May 2019 - 01:21 PM



Im...not impressed ...Im just kinda whelmed

 

Like thats the villain we are supposed to be afraid of? Arny had presents, Patrick was meniceing in his cold stare and delivery this guy.though looks goofy and that sucks all the tension out of the film and makes the film look dull and lifeless

That's a valid poi-

 

But what do I know I'm also a fan of Genesis

...nope, nevermind then.  I am speaking with a madman and logic won't penetrate.


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 01:37 PM

I'm intrigued by the concept of this (villain) terminator that can separate the polyalloy outside from the endoskeleton inside, and effectively operate as two separate units.

 

(Incidentally, it took me a few views to realize that's what's going on with this guy)

 

Still not sure I'll go see it, as I haven't even been able to see any MUST-SEE movies this year, but I'd like to



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Posted 23 May 2019 - 01:45 PM


This Terminator is 100% a Pretender. That is all.

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 02:28 PM

So is this some unseen but escapes t-800 Arny or a human arny that the t-800s used as a model?



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Posted 23 May 2019 - 02:48 PM

Watched the trailer, I'm not quite sure what to make of this movie, then I'm more a fan of the original over the sequels because the original just works, a killing machine from the future is sent back to murder the mother of the resistance leader before he born and someone also goes back to protect her and he ends up being the father to said resistance leader. T2, I never really liked, about the only thing going for it was the visual effects than story, T3 over the top yet forgettable mess of a movie, but hey, at least Judgement day happened, T4, the breath of fresh air the series badly needed but they didn't really build upon it that much, thou I think it was pretty much set in the early days of the war, T5, wasted potental, from story to actors. With Dark Fate, I'm trying to keep an open mind but I get the feeling in the end, the original film will still be superior to all of the sequels, I do think we likely already seen whatever plot twist the movie comes up with.


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 02:59 PM

I'd also love if the fact Skynet is constantly sending back Terminators is more it's attempt to break the cyclical hell it finds itself trapped in (Since T3 and Genysis feature Post-War Skynet being uploaded into the systems of the past) than to actually try and change history. A movie about how Skynet is itself the victim, desperately trying to make the constant repetition of history end.

It's like Ripley's arc in the Aliens tetralogy if you don't ignore the latter two for some reason.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 23 May 2019 - 03:00 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 




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