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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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#21 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 02:00 PM

Mr. Fantastic fills the 'daddy' role. Tony Stark only got into it when Peter came along. Thanos is a bad guy too.

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Ugh, I realize it's almost impossible to get a new FF movie in the MCU without starting with the origin. Again. Ugh.

And it'll be a phase or two before Franklin gets born, darn!

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 02:00 PM

.....I was going to make a thread like this, but I was waiting for 2 May to coincide with the U.S. release anniversary of Iron Man.

 

Oh well, I suppose this thread will do.



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 03:16 PM

 

 

 

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.
 
Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.

 
 
 
but the actress isn't sitting well with many people including her Co-stars for End Game.
 
 
Source?

This. A reputable source, or GTF off this tangent of yours.

And cosmic-book news? Not a reputable source. That site us a misogynistic joke, so if that's where you're getting your info, don't bother.

 

His source is himself.. 

 

 

According to CBR..  https://www.cbr.com/...emale-avengers/


While filming was underway on Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame, it was revealed that Scarlett Johansson, Zoe Saldana, Pom Klementieff, Karen Gillan, Tessa Thompson and Brie Larson all approached Feige about an A-Force/Lady Liberators-type film. And despite nothing have come it yet, they did state Feige seemed generally interested in their ideas.

 

And the only thing I can find about the cast 'not liking her' are jokes on late night and youtube videos from butt hurt in-cels.



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 03:54 PM

Same here. I just did a google crawl, just to be sure, and checked out some articles from several sites, and none of them featured comments about displeased co-stars. In fact, Scarlett Johansson, Mark Ruffalo, and Samuel L. Jackson had all worked with her before she became part of the MCU. 

 

The hate is, as I suspected, coming from the loud, sad contingent of sexist keyboard-warriors.


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Posted 29 April 2019 - 04:04 PM

I'd like to eventually get some Defenders going... but the set up for Silver Surfer might take a phase 



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 04:53 PM

Question - Has anyone seen Marvel address She-Hulk at all. My brother asked me if she was part of the same situation with the Hulk where if he headlines a movie disney has share the proceeds. I told him not as far as I know but I also said I don't think I've ever heard Marvel talk about her rights at all and wether they are tied to her cousin.

-ZacWilliam, she'd be the first on my list if Marvel ever did a "New Avengers" down the line. I'd probably go Black Knight, Crystal, She-Hulk, Hercules, Beast and Justice and Firestar.

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:49 PM

Question - Has anyone seen Marvel address She-Hulk at all. My brother asked me if she was part of the same situation with the Hulk where if he headlines a movie disney has share the proceeds. I told him not as far as I know but I also said I don't think I've ever heard Marvel talk about her rights at all and wether they are tied to her cousin.

-ZacWilliam, she'd be the first on my list if Marvel ever did a "New Avengers" down the line. I'd probably go Black Knight, Crystal, She-Hulk, Hercules, Beast and Justice and Firestar.

 

I'm confused by the question. Disney OWNS Marvel...



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:56 PM

I think he meant Universal, as I believe they have the Hulk standalone and/or title license.


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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:57 PM

Hulk has a pre-existing deal with Universal from back in the pre MCU dark ages. Marvel/Disney has the rights to use him in movies, but if they do a "Hulk" movie, where it's *his* film, Disney has to let Universal distribute it and share the proceeds with that company. (Which is largely why that hasn't happened in the MCU.)

Those sorts of deals tend to be for Character Families (Sony had the FF and related characters the FF Family.) My brothers question was whether She-Hulk as a "Hulk family" character was covered under those Universal rights.

-ZacWilliam, could Marvel/Disney do a She-Hulk film without Universal's distribution or would they only be able to include her in films she wasn't headlining...

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 07:21 PM

I want a moon knight movie..

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 09:13 PM

Probably not with She-Hulk. I read a rumor that a Disney+ show was being considered, but who knows if there is any credence to the rumor.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 05:52 PM

Some people are speculating the deep sea earthquake mentioned briefly in Endgame might be a hint at Namor and Atlantis being the main antagonists in the next Black Panther film.

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 09:01 AM

Apparently Hulu just announced Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes) and Damian Hellstorm TV Shows so I guess they're off the table for possible Movies for now. Not that they were high on my list, but Ghost Rider was always possible.

 

 

ZacWilliam, that puts Cloak and Dagger, Runaways, SHEILD, Ghost Rider, Hellstorm, and maybe Squirrel Girl and the New Warriors (although I expect that to possibly be dead) off limits for the moment to Movies. I expect Disney would shy away from rebooting any of the Netflix stuff for films anytime soon either (so Daredevil, Heroes for Hire, Jessica Jones, Punisher, and maybe the name "Defenders") Plenty of more things that are open for use, just interesting to know what's likely not on the list. 


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Posted 02 May 2019 - 06:07 AM

So following the line of the last post I sorta started wondering what Marvel had left in the tank. I mean yeah, there are a million characters, but leads that could support a film, I wasn't really sure.

So I went over to the Marvel Comixology app and just scrolled through the archive for Marvel characters that have been leads in a book. I left Spidey stuff out (because Sony) and X-men and FF family books (cause those are obvious and coming) and anyone who has already been in the MCU or related TV shows. The Marvel app is hardly comprehensive but it's got enough stuff to at least give me an idea.

Here's what I got:

Hercules
She-Hulk
Darkhawk
Sleepwalker
Blue Marvel
Monsters Unleashed (Kid Kaiju)
Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur
Iron Heart
Ms Marvel
Champions (Young Hero team)
Man-Thing
Sentry
Agents of Atlas
Alpha Flight
Invaders
Nova
American Dream
Young Avengers
Angela
Quasar
Silver Surfer
Deathlok (modern version)
Avengers Academy
Tigra
Black Knight
Avengers Next
Pet Avengers
West Coast Avengers
Blade
Bloodstone
Machine Man
Captain Britain
Thunderbolts
Ares
Dark Avengers
The Hood
Death's Head
Doom
Gravity
Great Lakes Avengers
Gwenpool
Howard the Duck
Namor
Kazar
Kilraven
Legion of Monsters
Lockjaw
Machine Teen
Moon Knight
Next Wave
Howling Commandos (Monster Team)
Squadron Supremes
Nighthawk
Omega the Unknown
The Order
Hellcat
Power Pack
Ravage 2099
Rawhide Kid
Red Wolf
Sentinel
Shanna the SheDevil
Skull the Slayer
Spider-woman
Starbrand
Terror Inc
Adam Warlock
Thunderstrike
USAgent
Union Jack
Werewolf by Night
Weirdworld
Wonder Man

So that's at least 70 properties at a very cursory incomplete glance. I'm sure there are plenty of things not on there.


-ZacWilliam, Now I'm not saying all of these would make a good movie, but I think maybe any of them COULD with the right approach. It'll be interesting to see where Marvel goes.

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Posted 02 May 2019 - 06:50 AM

Spider Woman is likely off the table due to Sony.


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Posted 02 May 2019 - 06:54 AM

Spider Woman is likely off the table due to Sony.


I wasn't sure she was part of the Spidey rights or not as the character traditionally has absolutely nothin to do with Spider-man and no connection at all to his world.

-ZacWilliam, I mean I can totally see how she could get lumped in there cause of the name but the name is pretty much the only connection.
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Posted 02 May 2019 - 08:21 AM

Yeah, I'm not sure.

 

Makes me wonder where Spider-Gwen falls too.

 

As I would think she would have been either with Sony or Fox, but at least Disney has the Fox side taken care of.

 

Unless she falls into her own thing despite being part Spiderman character part X-Men character.


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Posted 02 May 2019 - 09:39 AM

Yeah, I'm not sure.

 

Makes me wonder where Spider-Gwen falls too.

 

As I would think she would have been either with Sony or Fox, but at least Disney has the Fox side taken care of.

 

Unless she falls into her own thing despite being part Spiderman character part X-Men character.

 

 

Did you mean Gwenpool?

 

That's a tough one. The "idea" of her being named "Gwen" came IRL from Gwen Stacy but she is not Gwen Stacy. Not even an alternate version. She's just an entirely different girl who happens to be named Gwen Poole. Likewise her "hero" name being "Gwenpool" and the look of her costume were both inspired "in the real world" by Deadpool but the character herself has absolutely nothing to do with Deadpool at all origin or fiction wise.

 

So I have no idea how that works rights wise when on the one hand she was created "because" of Gwen Stacy and Deadpool but in actuality has nothing to do with them besides that inspiration. And on top of that she was created well after those rights were "sold."

 

-ZacWilliam, I would assume she's fair game, but who knows... 


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Posted 02 May 2019 - 09:48 AM

Howard the Duck has appeared in the GotG movies, and Adam Warlock has been set up in those same movies (we know he's around, but we haven't seen him yet).

And I know it doesn't mean anything anymore, but Deathlok and Lockjaw have both turned up on TV (in Agents of SHIELD and Inhumans, respectively).

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Posted 02 May 2019 - 10:02 AM

Howard the Duck has appeared in the GotG movies, and Adam Warlock has been set up in those same movies (we know he's around, but we haven't seen him yet).

And I know it doesn't mean anything anymore, but Deathlok and Lockjaw have both turned up on TV (in Agents of SHIELD and Inhumans, respectively).

 

I was wondering how long it would take for this exact post.  ;) 

 

Yes I totally broke my own rules. Howard was a cameo, Adam is just a set up so fair game for a list of folks they could do for a film, that was a different Deathlok than the current one and Lockjaw's just a good, good puppy who should be in more things.  :)

 

 

-ZacWilliam, there are a couple other on there that are "sorta"/almost rule breakers but eh I just wanted a rough idea of the pool Marvel had left.. 


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