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@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:41 AM)

Like, in general, not going into specific bands or covers. Because I could point out plenty of repainted toys I didn't like as much as the original, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:39 AM)

Is a musician covering a song "fixing" it?

@  Nevermore : (17 May 2021 - 05:15 AM)

So, then, isn't redecoing or retooling an existing toy also "fixing" someone else's art?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 10:07 PM)

A toy is not on the same level as a piece of drawn art, true, but it is 100% an entertainment product.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 02:58 AM)

Oops, All Berries

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2021 - 12:47 AM)

Nope, Chuck Berry

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 10:42 PM)

Nope, Chuck Testa.

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 May 2021 - 05:22 PM)

God, it's such a pain to have a local email address shut down. So many accounts to update...

@  Bass X0 : (10 May 2021 - 04:43 PM)

"Let's make a bargain, shall we? You ask Primus for help and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

@  tigerhawk : (10 May 2021 - 02:56 AM)

The 1988 G1 line up could all have been done as Titan Master things, I figure the Pretenders could be done as Titan Master Drones and Prime Master shells.

@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 03:18 PM


So, let's try to keep it to no Spoilers for Endgame without tags, but where do folks see the MCU going next?

We've got Spidey: Far From Home coming in a couple months as the final film of this phase and then we don't quite know what's next. There are a number of films we know are in the works:

Black Widow
Eternals
Dr. Strange 2
Guardians of the Galaxy 3
Black Panther 2
Captain Marvel 2
and Shang Chi: Master of Kung-Fu

3 new Characters and 4 Sequels could take us at least two more years out . Which is about where Marvel has said it would be before we saw any X-men or FF films.

What characters do folks want to see get a film that havn't?

Do you think there will be any more Avengers films with new members or is that team done for now?

How long do you think it'll take before Marvel starts to begin building to another big crossover event?

Other thoughts about what's next?


-ZacWilliam, My answers: Black Knight, Joe Fixit, She-Hulk and say Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. I would guess they're done for now but not forever, Young Avengers seems like too good an idea not to do in a year or two. My feeling is that they should (and will) take a Phase off, giving us at least a few years before things begin to build again.
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Posted 28 April 2019 - 03:36 PM

Don't forget, 2 more series coming to Disney+, and four more to Hulu- although there may be an ownership battle brewing over that so those shows might take a while. 

 

 

I would guess at least one or more would be devoted to filling the gaps from the Endgame story. 


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 03:47 PM

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:10 PM

Haven't seen Endgame. I've read the Wikipedia entry and the spoilers here, if that counts.

 

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This is one of those things that I'm super interested in. Probably more than "who is the next movie going to be about," if I'm being honest.

 

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:39 PM

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.

 

Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:40 PM

Don't believe the popular rumors. TRUE-FANS know that phase 4 will revolve around Howard the Duck, and Forbush-Man. 


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 05:01 PM


I would not expect any big world-changing fallout from the whole Thanos thing. That sort of stuff happens every other week in comic books and once the villain is defeated you get *at most* an issue or two aftermath/clean up from events that in the real world would change the nation or the world forever and then things settle back down to "normal."

Because part of the Marvel Comics conceit is that these amazing stories are taking place in what is otherwise "the world outside your window." It's the same reason Reed Richard's super science never changes the world in the ways it really would. I 100% expect the MCU to follow suit. We'll get a few mentions of things from these two films certainly but otherwise, for all practical purposes the world will be back to "normal" for the next story.

-ZacWilliam, I'd be very very surprised by anything else.
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Posted 28 April 2019 - 05:01 PM

Spider-Man wasn't originally in their roadmap, but they made room for him once he became available.  They can (and should) do the same with the Fantastic Four.  Marvel's First Family needs to be in the mix.

 

Oh yeah, an A-Force movie would be cool too.


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 05:30 PM

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.

 

Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.

 

What I heard, Larson, the actress playing Captain Marvel, wants a all Female Avengers (and this was her answer to a question would she rather co star with Hulk or Thor), she even wants to direct a MCU film of her own and I'm thinking "WTF are you insane woman?" Then the head of marvel prior to Captain Marvel been saying Captain Marvel is the face of the MCU going forwards but the actress isn't sitting well with many people including her Co-stars for End Game.

 

I haven't seen End Game, yet, I'll go in a few days when the serious cowrds have died down a bit and when I got a day off and 3 plus hours to spare


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 06:16 PM

I don't particularly like or care about the Fantastic Four, but I think that's the direction I'd like to see the MCU go anyway.  I don't know how it'd work, though. I'd almost rather see a new, younger team that gets established post-Endgame than trying to make it so they'd been there all along.

 

Using FF would give them more big ticket villains to work with. As a "casual," I know who Dr. Doom, Galactus, and Thanos are - anybody else outside of some X-men stuff is a big, "who?"

 

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 07:34 PM

I don't think Disney is going to touch the Fantastic Four for a very long time.

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 08:25 PM

Which is sad. But after Fox biffed the latter two FF attempts and even failed to stick the landing the first time I know Id be gun shy to try it again.

But Doom! Galactus! Super Skrull! Franklin! Val! So many characters Id love to see a take on in the MCU.

But I think we have a Young Avengers/Champions movie in the works. Pete may still be a tad young to run with the big leagues full time but I could see him leading the next generation especially with the set up we have over the course of the movies.

Cassie has been set up as idolizing her Dad so I could definitely see her taking up her hero Persona of either Stature or Stinger

We have the kid from Iron Man 3 who could become a version of Iron Lad or the other potential young Iron person

Potentially there is a young Hawkeye as well. We know there are Skrulls in exile so Hulkling is a possibility.

Kamala seems like a bit of a stretch as Carol hasnt even made that big of a public appearance that we know yet.

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 09:15 PM

I'd be all in for a Young Avengers adaptation!

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 04:52 AM

 

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.

 

Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.

 

 

 

but the actress isn't sitting well with many people including her Co-stars for End Game.

 

 

Source?


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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:10 AM

I'm wondering about that too. Captain Marvel Brie seems ok. Does she just not have the charisma of Robert Downey Jr?

Cripes, I want to discuss character progression but it would still be Endgame spoilers.

Young Avengers, yes. But there's New Warriors TV show, right?

Let's say for the future, for Phase Six, what would be culminating big event be?

Secret Invasion is sorta done (and I'm not into Bendis so much). Not into House of M or A Vs X either but mutants would be awesome.

So I'd say the big crossover they'll build up to would be Secret War. Mixed in with Contest of Champions.

Take two phases to build up new characters AND villains. Then have a cosmic being gather them all up in Battleworld (or whatever) to fight each other. Sure, it's Hunger Games (which is passe now?) but, wow, I would seriously love to see my heroes go all out on each other. It's Civil War but no holds barred.

Villains would be included in the kidnapping since they have powers. Doctor Doom would be scheming his way around everything. Can redeem villains into heroes along the way too.

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:55 AM

Far From Home has officially been stated to be the epilogue for Phase 3, so we'll hopefully see there how the fallout from Endgame goes.

 

I'd love to see Annihilation, done as a big crossover film event, so you'd get 'Captain Marvel: Annihilation' and 'GotG: Annihilation' and stuff.

 

We're almost certainty getting Young Avengers, based on Cassie and cut roles and the WandaVision TV show.

 

I've no idea what's happening with New Warriors, I would have thought it would have been out by now.



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 08:18 AM


No one knows what's up with the Squirrel Girl and the New Warriors show. A pilot was filmed. Free form ordered it to series and then apparently changed their mind. Marvel said they were shopping it around to other channels in 2018, but there's been no word since. Honestly at this point I suspect it's dead. Just too much time has passed.

I'd love a Squirrel Girl movie. It'd need just the right director and cast but I'd love it if done right.


-ZacWilliam, Champions or Young Avengers should be on their fast track IMO. I'd be curious which they go with. On name recognition I expect YA to be their choice, but ya never know.
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Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:52 AM

 

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.
 
Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.

 
 
 
but the actress isn't sitting well with many people including her Co-stars for End Game.
 
 
Source?

This. A reputable source, or GTF off this tangent of yours.

And cosmic-book news? Not a reputable source. That site us a misogynistic joke, so if that's where you're getting your info, don't bother.
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Posted 29 April 2019 - 12:01 PM

The Fantastic Four cannot be made into a good movie.
Change my mind.

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 12:33 PM

The Fantastic Four cannot be made into a good movie.
Change my mind.


The Incredibles.

The Avengers.

Heck, 10 years of MCU films.


-ZacWilliam, there's nothing about the FF that makes them any less able to be a good film than the Guardians of the Galaxy say. It all comes down to understanding the property, a good director and good casting. Marvel has been pretty great at those things so I'm not too worried.
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