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@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 03:18 PM


So, let's try to keep it to no Spoilers for Endgame without tags, but where do folks see the MCU going next?

We've got Spidey: Far From Home coming in a couple months as the final film of this phase and then we don't quite know what's next. There are a number of films we know are in the works:

Black Widow
Eternals
Dr. Strange 2
Guardians of the Galaxy 3
Black Panther 2
Captain Marvel 2
and Shang Chi: Master of Kung-Fu

3 new Characters and 4 Sequels could take us at least two more years out . Which is about where Marvel has said it would be before we saw any X-men or FF films.

What characters do folks want to see get a film that havn't?

Do you think there will be any more Avengers films with new members or is that team done for now?

How long do you think it'll take before Marvel starts to begin building to another big crossover event?

Other thoughts about what's next?


-ZacWilliam, My answers: Black Knight, Joe Fixit, She-Hulk and say Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. I would guess they're done for now but not forever, Young Avengers seems like too good an idea not to do in a year or two. My feeling is that they should (and will) take a Phase off, giving us at least a few years before things begin to build again.
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Posted 28 April 2019 - 03:36 PM

Don't forget, 2 more series coming to Disney+, and four more to Hulu- although there may be an ownership battle brewing over that so those shows might take a while. 

 

 

I would guess at least one or more would be devoted to filling the gaps from the Endgame story. 


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 03:47 PM

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:10 PM

Haven't seen Endgame. I've read the Wikipedia entry and the spoilers here, if that counts.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Spoiler

 

This is one of those things that I'm super interested in. Probably more than "who is the next movie going to be about," if I'm being honest.

 

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:39 PM

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.

 

Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:40 PM

Don't believe the popular rumors. TRUE-FANS know that phase 4 will revolve around Howard the Duck, and Forbush-Man. 


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 05:01 PM


I would not expect any big world-changing fallout from the whole Thanos thing. That sort of stuff happens every other week in comic books and once the villain is defeated you get *at most* an issue or two aftermath/clean up from events that in the real world would change the nation or the world forever and then things settle back down to "normal."

Because part of the Marvel Comics conceit is that these amazing stories are taking place in what is otherwise "the world outside your window." It's the same reason Reed Richard's super science never changes the world in the ways it really would. I 100% expect the MCU to follow suit. We'll get a few mentions of things from these two films certainly but otherwise, for all practical purposes the world will be back to "normal" for the next story.

-ZacWilliam, I'd be very very surprised by anything else.
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Posted 28 April 2019 - 05:01 PM

Spider-Man wasn't originally in their roadmap, but they made room for him once he became available.  They can (and should) do the same with the Fantastic Four.  Marvel's First Family needs to be in the mix.

 

Oh yeah, an A-Force movie would be cool too.


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 05:30 PM

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.

 

Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.

 

What I heard, Larson, the actress playing Captain Marvel, wants a all Female Avengers (and this was her answer to a question would she rather co star with Hulk or Thor), she even wants to direct a MCU film of her own and I'm thinking "WTF are you insane woman?" Then the head of marvel prior to Captain Marvel been saying Captain Marvel is the face of the MCU going forwards but the actress isn't sitting well with many people including her Co-stars for End Game.

 

I haven't seen End Game, yet, I'll go in a few days when the serious cowrds have died down a bit and when I got a day off and 3 plus hours to spare


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 06:16 PM

I don't particularly like or care about the Fantastic Four, but I think that's the direction I'd like to see the MCU go anyway.  I don't know how it'd work, though. I'd almost rather see a new, younger team that gets established post-Endgame than trying to make it so they'd been there all along.

 

Using FF would give them more big ticket villains to work with. As a "casual," I know who Dr. Doom, Galactus, and Thanos are - anybody else outside of some X-men stuff is a big, "who?"

 

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 07:34 PM

I don't think Disney is going to touch the Fantastic Four for a very long time.

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 08:25 PM

Which is sad. But after Fox biffed the latter two FF attempts and even failed to stick the landing the first time I know Id be gun shy to try it again.

But Doom! Galactus! Super Skrull! Franklin! Val! So many characters Id love to see a take on in the MCU.

But I think we have a Young Avengers/Champions movie in the works. Pete may still be a tad young to run with the big leagues full time but I could see him leading the next generation especially with the set up we have over the course of the movies.

Cassie has been set up as idolizing her Dad so I could definitely see her taking up her hero Persona of either Stature or Stinger

We have the kid from Iron Man 3 who could become a version of Iron Lad or the other potential young Iron person

Potentially there is a young Hawkeye as well. We know there are Skrulls in exile so Hulkling is a possibility.

Kamala seems like a bit of a stretch as Carol hasnt even made that big of a public appearance that we know yet.

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 09:15 PM

I'd be all in for a Young Avengers adaptation!

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 04:52 AM

 

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.

 

Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.

 

 

 

but the actress isn't sitting well with many people including her Co-stars for End Game.

 

 

Source?


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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:10 AM

I'm wondering about that too. Captain Marvel Brie seems ok. Does she just not have the charisma of Robert Downey Jr?

Cripes, I want to discuss character progression but it would still be Endgame spoilers.

Young Avengers, yes. But there's New Warriors TV show, right?

Let's say for the future, for Phase Six, what would be culminating big event be?

Secret Invasion is sorta done (and I'm not into Bendis so much). Not into House of M or A Vs X either but mutants would be awesome.

So I'd say the big crossover they'll build up to would be Secret War. Mixed in with Contest of Champions.

Take two phases to build up new characters AND villains. Then have a cosmic being gather them all up in Battleworld (or whatever) to fight each other. Sure, it's Hunger Games (which is passe now?) but, wow, I would seriously love to see my heroes go all out on each other. It's Civil War but no holds barred.

Villains would be included in the kidnapping since they have powers. Doctor Doom would be scheming his way around everything. Can redeem villains into heroes along the way too.

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:55 AM

Far From Home has officially been stated to be the epilogue for Phase 3, so we'll hopefully see there how the fallout from Endgame goes.

 

I'd love to see Annihilation, done as a big crossover film event, so you'd get 'Captain Marvel: Annihilation' and 'GotG: Annihilation' and stuff.

 

We're almost certainty getting Young Avengers, based on Cassie and cut roles and the WandaVision TV show.

 

I've no idea what's happening with New Warriors, I would have thought it would have been out by now.



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Posted 29 April 2019 - 08:18 AM


No one knows what's up with the Squirrel Girl and the New Warriors show. A pilot was filmed. Free form ordered it to series and then apparently changed their mind. Marvel said they were shopping it around to other channels in 2018, but there's been no word since. Honestly at this point I suspect it's dead. Just too much time has passed.

I'd love a Squirrel Girl movie. It'd need just the right director and cast but I'd love it if done right.


-ZacWilliam, Champions or Young Avengers should be on their fast track IMO. I'd be curious which they go with. On name recognition I expect YA to be their choice, but ya never know.
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Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:52 AM

 

I also remember seeing somewhere (can't remember where so no source), that this was 'it' as far as avengers movies go.
 
Not to say we won't get cross over, but certainly the Avengers movies are done.

 
 
 
but the actress isn't sitting well with many people including her Co-stars for End Game.
 
 
Source?

This. A reputable source, or GTF off this tangent of yours.

And cosmic-book news? Not a reputable source. That site us a misogynistic joke, so if that's where you're getting your info, don't bother.
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Posted 29 April 2019 - 12:01 PM

The Fantastic Four cannot be made into a good movie.
Change my mind.

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 12:33 PM

The Fantastic Four cannot be made into a good movie.
Change my mind.


The Incredibles.

The Avengers.

Heck, 10 years of MCU films.


-ZacWilliam, there's nothing about the FF that makes them any less able to be a good film than the Guardians of the Galaxy say. It all comes down to understanding the property, a good director and good casting. Marvel has been pretty great at those things so I'm not too worried.
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