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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 December 2019 - 04:04 PM)

Well, did you get water?

@  wonko the sane? : (14 December 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Went to the bathroom, shaved, baked a cake... wait, I only got up to get some water...

@  unluckiness : (14 December 2019 - 09:01 AM)

That's a common misconception. You see compared to the first run, it's a new mold.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 December 2019 - 03:27 AM)

Wouldn't that just add packaging authenticity? :D

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2019 - 01:44 AM)

I read a anecdote of someone recently receiving a Glacialord with mold because apparently online stores' warehouses have been sitting on Fansproject products like that for years.

@  Rycochet : (13 December 2019 - 11:56 AM)

Unlike many of his peers, Morton diesn't seem to have gone out of his way to try and take every drug going so he's aged remarkably well.

@  Donocropolis : (13 December 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Doesn't seem to have been a market for it, which is too bad, because it perfectly does what it sets out to do.

@  Donocropolis : (13 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Just opened it and suddenly I'm 9 years old again.

@  Donocropolis : (13 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Bought myself Fansproject Glacialord for my birthday during their Black Friday sale.

@  Nevermore : (12 December 2019 - 07:45 PM)

Morten Harket of A-ha might have aged 35 years on the outside, but his voice is still pretty much the same as it was in 1984. That's some great training and exercise for you.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 December 2019 - 06:59 PM)

Depends entirely on how badly you cooked them. What?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 December 2019 - 05:33 PM)

Can it raise the dead?

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:33 PM)

Cheddar can do just about anything.

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Cream cheese has to be on a bagel or crackers.

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:31 PM)

(for example: I like Swiss cheese on sandwiches, but find it merely tolerable by itself)

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 05:30 PM)

I mean are you eating it by itself? With crackers? On a sandwich?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

I would ask, but I'd rather not know.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (12 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

With my mouth, usually.

@  RichardT1977 : (12 December 2019 - 08:48 AM)

Depends on how you're eating it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (12 December 2019 - 01:40 AM)

Havarti, without a doubt.

@  Greebtron : (12 December 2019 - 01:28 AM)

Not Don, thanks. I'd like a writer who actually cares enough to do the job properly

@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 09:34 PM)

What's your favorite cheese? I'm not sure, but it's hard to beat muenster.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:10 PM)

Man I wish IDW could do a season 2.5 with a few writers like Michael Charles Hill or Donald F Glut or Paul Davids involved.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 04:33 PM)

They were looking for Skids, but the animators forgot he existed again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 02:58 PM)

He regrouped with Omega Supreme, the Dinobots, Skyfire and the Protectobots.

@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 08:20 AM)

Did he get infected with the rest of the Autobots or did he smartly remain off-planet?

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 05:38 AM)

He really just went to the beach for a couple of days, then called it in. Who's gonna follow up on it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:05 AM)

Anyone really believe Cosmos searched far enough for more ingredient for Corrostop?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2019 - 03:48 AM)

Oh, we are pretty good at "forgetting" about that. Insisting on sending people home on their overtime, THEN suddenly rushing to do the "backlog" stuff when it's really overdue.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 December 2019 - 05:43 PM)

I've yet to find an organization which didn't have a backlog of "stuff" that needs to be done, but isn't important enough to put on the schedule proper.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 December 2019 - 05:01 PM)

I'm sure most good/bad (depending on your POV) bosses would be able to find something for the worker to do, in most cases, even if it's spending 8 hours pretending to push a broom around

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 December 2019 - 04:39 PM)

Still better than American jobs. x.x;

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 December 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure you've already mentioned this before. Especially that last one.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:05 AM)

That can be fun if you're strong-willed enough. "Hey, you want to go home? Overtime reduction, there's nothing to do..." - "Nah, not today. I want to work."

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:04 AM)

This applies to the field of work as well. Meaning, your boss orders you to show up for a full shift, you show up on time and are absolutely willing to work, and then your boss realizes he has no work for you, your boss has to pay you for a full shift even if you don't work at all.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:03 AM)

Fun fact: German law has a concept named "default in acceptance", which postulates that if there is a "service for payment" contract, the party that should provide the service correctly offers their due service, and the party that should pay fails to accept the service within due time, the second party still has to pay the first party even if there was no service delivered.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.


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#1 Caldwin

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 01:59 PM

So, I know this is a huge thing in the gaming community. So let's talk about it. I've always been one to say I prefer physical media over digital. But in full honesty:

With movies the vast majority of what I have is Bluray or DVD. But I do have some digital only movies. Usually I only get digital if I just can't seem to find it physically. But I do have some digital movies.

With music, there are some bands I still get CD's for: Metallica, Godsmack, Evanescence, Lindsey Stirling and Within Temptation. But more and more I get most of my music digitally.

But a single video game can be quite a bit more expensive than any movie or music album. So here's my thoughts on digital games.

Bad:

1. You don't own a game. You merely own a license to play the game. This more than anything else seems to be the biggest sore spot for those arguing against digital only. You pay $60 for something, it would be nice to actually own something for your money.
 
2. Especially if consoles decide to go digital only, they better have really sizable storage. Many AAA games can be upwards of 50 gig. Even a Terabyte of storage can fill up fast over the typical lifespan of a console. If they're going to take away the optical drives, they should be giving us more storage, cause damn we're gonna need it.
 
3. As anyone who owns a Wii can attest, servers close down. At that point, you better have as many of your games downloaded to your limited storage as possible, because you're going to lose the rest. I did lose some of my purchases from the Wii when its server shut down. I downloaded all the ones I could, but it just goes to show even more the need for storage space.
 
Good:
 
1. The only time I ever preorder something is if I need to use the preorder as a layaway. That's the only use of a preorder for me now is the layaway. I walked into a Gamestop today who tried to convince me I better preorder Mario Maker for the Switch if I want it first day because Nintendo typically only sends enough of these types of games to fill preorder. I just smiled inwardly because I know...online store never runs out of stock. If I go to Gamestop, Best Buy, Target, Meijer and Wal Mart and they are all out of stock, I can always buy it digitally. There's no such thing as running out of copies.
 
2. Kinda small, but it is nice to not have to switch out cartridges or disks. Call me lazy, but backing out of one game and immediately starting up another can be nice versus getting my butt up off the coach, ejecting one disk/cartridge, putting it in its case, taking out another case and putting the next game in and sitting back down on the couch to resume play. Yeah, lazy as hell, but it is a plus for digital.
 
3. In the case of the Switch, they're not selling a lot of carry cases for the games. The carry case I have for the Switch itself has 5 cartridge sized pockets to store games for travel. So whenever I go somewhere or travel, I have to choose five out of my physical library to go with me and leave the rest at home. If all my games were digital, I could carry my entire library with me wherever I go.

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#2 tec

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 02:51 PM

Physical only really the only time I get anything digital is if its 10 bucks or under this includes games and DLC content


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Posted 27 April 2019 - 02:55 PM

You don't own a game. You merely own a license to play the game. This more than anything else seems to be the biggest sore spot for those arguing against digital only. You pay $60 for something, it would be nice to actually own something for your money.


This isn't really the case with DRM-free purchases.

Anything I bought and downloaded from GOG I can make however many copies I want and run on any computer without using a launcher program or logging in to an account.

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 03:21 PM

I prefer the concept of physical but the vast bulk of my present game collection is digital only.



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Posted 27 April 2019 - 06:52 PM

Physical always if there is a choice.

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 09:47 PM

With video games, I prefer physical. Only digital games Ive purchased are FF7 for switch, and I guess MM Legacy collection part 2 (which was digital only, and came with collection 1).

For movies, I always buy physical with a digital copy included. That way I have a physical copy to watch if theres ever a sever shut down or something.

I wish video game companies offered the same option.
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#7 wonko the sane?

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Posted 27 April 2019 - 09:50 PM

Most of my games come through steam, but idea that they could arbitrarily decide to no longer host any given title, or even just go out of business irks me. With physical you at least own it until media or the reader dies.
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Posted 27 April 2019 - 11:42 PM

Most of my games come through steam, but idea that they could arbitrarily decide to no longer host any given title, or even just go out of business irks me. With physical you at least own it until media or the reader dies.

 

Unless they want to send out an update that tells the device that the license is expired.. which is easy to do.



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Posted 27 April 2019 - 11:55 PM

As someone in a rural area with junk net speed I really do prefer physical. Heck getting new games is a chore anymore either way since many have day one patches over a few gigs. I often dont get to play games until hours to even days later. Its not a huge deal if I have work or am going to sleep but it sucks when I have a game I really want to jump into ASAP.
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Posted 28 April 2019 - 12:09 AM

Well I mean I've been buying a lot of Limited Run games so...you can probably guess.


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 04:52 AM

I buy a mixture. Obviously, a lot of smaller games are only available digitally, but also it's just so much more convenient. As somebody who is distracted easily and rarely finishes games, being able to go straight from "I am excited for this game I don't own" to actually playing it that same day is good for momentum. Physical games are a thing I mainly go for if it's cheaper, or if I'm feeling like a sucker for a limited edition in a series I love, otherwise I don't have a strong preference.

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 10:09 AM

As someone in a rural area with junk net speed I really do prefer physical. Heck getting new games is a chore anymore either way since many have day one patches over a few gigs. I often dont get to play games until hours to even days later. Its not a huge deal if I have work or am going to sleep but it sucks when I have a game I really want to jump into ASAP.

I feel ya pain bro

 

Thats why I was really shocked about Ace Combat 7 not even having a day one patch I was not expecting to be able to just jump right it my body was not prepared


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 11:17 AM

I'm leaning towards digital.

 

My preference is physical. There's just something about having all my games lined up on a shelf.

 

Yet, I get that I don't have the space for physical games. Physical media, really. I'm not going to clean a bookcase filled with DVDs and CDs anymore.  It's just not something I want to do.

 

I also... killed my XBOne's disc drive playing Destiny. It works - sometimes - which can make playing physical games a challenge. It's no fun when you've got 30 minutes to kill and 10 of those are spent playing the "eject and reinsert the disc and hope it works" game.

 

So, yeah. I'm leaning towards digital.

 

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 12:14 PM

I prefer digital and given price parity would always actually obtain the physical item but I have a lot of movies and shows and games that are digital because the price is so cheap.

 

I'm not going to pay $30-$60 for a physical game when I can get the digital for $5-$10.


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Posted 28 April 2019 - 12:19 PM

I'll always choose physical over digital; particularly as far as movies go. I've never rented or bought a digital film, and I don't even redeem the digital codes that come with my blu-rays and 4K discs as I want no part of making the studios think digital is any more popular than it is. I'm more than able to make my own backups, if necessary. I still buy CDs as well, although all those do get digitized into FLAC (for home listening) and 256kbps AAC (for on the go).

 

I have bought some retro digital games off GOG.com, though, as they're DRM free. The old Sierra adventure games... King's/Space/Police Quest series, Leisure Suit Larry, and a few other favorites from when I was younger. For console games, though, I'll always go physical.



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Posted 28 April 2019 - 01:24 PM

 

Most of my games come through steam, but idea that they could arbitrarily decide to no longer host any given title, or even just go out of business irks me. With physical you at least own it until media or the reader dies.

 

Unless they want to send out an update that tells the device that the license is expired.. which is easy to do.

 

Killing the physical media would be just pointlessly malicious. If the company is doing well, they're wasting money as very few (if any, I would hope.) would opt to repurchase. It would just validate the methodology and lead to not only it happening again on the same game, but on every other game, digital and physical. I didn't stop renting games cause the stores went out of business: I helped put the stores out of business by not renting games. And if the company is bankrupt, there won't be anyone to CARE if you're still playing your disc/cartridge, other than a couple of the devs would were really passionate about the game, and they want you to play.


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Posted 29 April 2019 - 09:51 PM

Eh, it really depends on several factors.  By and large, I've largely gravitated to digital for several reasons.  One is I'm lazy, and not having to get up to change games is very convenient.  Further, a LOT of my game playing are on devices like the Switch and Playstation TV, which aren't exactly easy systems to swap game cards, even before you factor in the "out of the way" spots I have them in.  Digital sales have often provide significant discounts and the method has allowed a LOT of games to see release that probably wouldn't have otherwise.

 

But there's still that  "if the servers go down, you won't be able to access the games again" issue, though, thus far that hasn't been a terribly huge issue as companies are leaving access to titles for YEARS after the systems are discontinued.  And despite the prevalence of online discounts, by and large, a lot of digital games don't see terribly impressive price cuts due to age.  Sony STILL has PSP games available for download at $20-40, despite the system being discontinued years ago. 

 

I like to get physical on key titles, but I'm increasingly seeing little reason to spend the money on physical releases short of some collector editions.  Even if you buy a disc or a cart...a LOT of new games are saddled with "day one patches" and are functionally unplayable out of the package anymore.  Mortal Kombat 11 on the Switch came on a 7 GB cart...and required a 16 GB download PLUS an always on connection for full access to the game's SINGLE PLAYER functions.  If I'm going to spend all that time downloading that much...I might as well just pay for the digital download.

The biggest boon for physical games is that retailers are more apt to discount older titles to rotate inventory and selection.  Outside of the occasional super sale, it's possible to get a LOT of games for less than online prices months down the line.

 

I think what's rubbed me the most about this discussion is that the entire thing is being undermined by the actions of (mostly western) publishers.  The big sell on digital is that "it would be cheaper", even though there have been a number of recent titles for Switch that were cheaper at retail AT LAUNCH than on the eShop.  Physical version buyers are basically being "conned" due to the fact that a majority of (again, western games, mostly) require massive "updates" at release to the point you can't even play the game out of the packaging anymore.

 

Again, I'd have no issue buying physical..if it was worth it.  Increasingly, I've found it hard to justify spending on a physical game, especially western developed big budget games, compared to the convenience of digital.  By and large, convenience is what the market responds to so we'll see how things go forward.



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 05:51 PM

I will go physical whenever I can.

 

Now, what is nice is stuff like PS+, where you get a bunch of freebies, and some REALLY good sales on bigger games, many of which you never see at retail, like The Order 1886 for $5, among many others.  Most are older games that I never picked up originally, and, having an external 2TB HD has been nice for all of those.  That and things like FFXV, which I played and finished on release, but was waiting for all the DLC before getting the season pass (as season passes go on sale a lot), but find it is cheaper to just wait for the Royal edition to have a good sale on it, as is has most of the DLC included...  For the most part it is stuff that I was not going to buy for a long time, and a really good deal, or is digital only, and even then, if it is a good deal.

 

For TV shows and movies, I am almost 100% physical, as streaming sites change their stuff all the time, sites go under (Target Ticket), and stuff goes out of print and can be very hard to get, even from illegal download places (a whole bunch of anime, which is why I am glad I started collecting DVDs, then BDs very early).  Plus, I first went on Netflix a year or so ago, and was very underwhelmed with the selection.  So many movies I assumed they would have, they did not, and then they would only have one of a series (LotR, for example), so I am not impressed with them.

 

The only streaming service I follow i FunimationNow, because I can see a whole bunch of anime in English either the day of, or within a few weeks of the Japanese release.  Even they lose rights to stuff and lose stuff (like with the split with Crunchyroll, though they seem to be getting some of those back recently), which is why I still buy the BDs of the shows I like (admittedly not right away, as I used to, but, since I am  not as clamoring to see them again right away, I wait for good deals).


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 06:47 AM

How many game cartridges do you have for your phone or tablet?

None? Well, that’s the future of gaming isn’t it? Kids don’t care about discs and carts and ownership when all they’ve known in their lives are digital games.

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:12 AM

Physical for movies and shows I love. I'm fine streaming shows and movies I don't care as much about.

Games I'm fine with 100% digital. I can play all my digital xbox games offline (provided I could also play the disc version offline) and I can't recall the last time I purchased a disc that didn't have an install. I can access them on any xbox, and some on pc. No worry about losing them, scratches, changing disks etc. I don't worry about selling them, as by the time I may sell of a game it's only going to be worth a dollar or two at most. There are rumors of Microsoft offering a disc to digital service. If so, I am excited to move my last few disc based games that I've gotten as gifts over to digital.

I rarely play single player games, and it is even rarer for me to replay single player games. Once the multi-player community for a game is dead, the game holds no value for me.
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