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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (05 April 2020 - 03:52 PM)

My point is that of late, Taiwan's government executed lockdown procedures to great success. Vietnam has done similarly.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (05 April 2020 - 03:34 PM)

Didn't SARS just suddenly stop before it got very far?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (05 April 2020 - 03:24 PM)

*raises eyebrows due to familial knowledge of SARS*

@  Steevy Maximus : (05 April 2020 - 01:43 PM)

It was uncomfortably real in 2011, it's downright scary in relation to the current pandemic.

@  Steevy Maximus : (05 April 2020 - 01:42 PM)

It is, almost to an uncomfortable point.The virus portrayed in that film was FAR more aggressive and fatal than Coronavirus, but the sourcing and spread and impact hit REALLY close to home compared to what we're dealing with now

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 April 2020 - 04:50 AM)

Actually on the subject, I've hard a lot of people refer to a 2011 film called Contagion that they think is relevant.

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 April 2020 - 01:11 AM)

Ah well, I'll stick to the classic British sitcoms: One Foot in the Grave, Til Death Do Us Part and They Think It's All Over.

@  TM2-Megatron : (05 April 2020 - 12:53 AM)

There's always the original, cheesy as it is

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (05 April 2020 - 12:10 AM)

Dunno... Tonight one of the major networks showed a movie with plagues.. including that listening to their leader causes the first born to die. ;P So nah.. I think the Stand could work. :D

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 April 2020 - 09:18 PM)

That's probably the last thing anyone needs to see, at the moment. Maybe when we get to the end of June/beginning of July and we can venture back out, it might be possible to find some enjoyment in The Stand.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 April 2020 - 02:08 PM)

I suppose the CBS adaptation of Stephen Kings The Stand will be delayed.

@  Rycochet : (04 April 2020 - 11:26 AM)

We'll always be together. Together in electric dreams.

@  Rycochet : (04 April 2020 - 11:25 AM)

Please remember that in these times of social distancing, we'll always be together however far it seems.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 12:41 PM)

It arrived! Yay!

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 11:25 AM)

Given how the virus lasts about 3-4 days on metals and plastics, it's about the only way to go about getting stuff right now. I ordered a monitor mount for my desk and the delivery has been pushed back twice already.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 April 2020 - 11:04 AM)

He ordered it online, says it was to keep those delivery boys in business. I did the same a week ago with some Transformers Studio Series figures off Kapow. Don't know if it's wise or not considering.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 09:12 AM)

You'd be the first. Everyone else has either been frustrated cause the one they wanted was sold out (like during boxing week.) or rushing to replace something broken.

@  RYNO : (03 April 2020 - 08:53 AM)

I actually walked into a store the other day and just randomly decided to buy at 32inch TV. It was just a Vizio, and grabbed a Mounting Bracket for it. No duress. Just a spur of the moment wanted a TV for my master bedroom.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 07:31 AM)

Conversely: I've never met a person who wasn't buying a TV under duress... so... yeah.

@  wonko the sane? : (03 April 2020 - 07:20 AM)

I think I've met maybe two people other than myself who count cables before buying a TV.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (03 April 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Seriously.. HDMI splitters and switches are so bloody finicky, but most tvs don't have enough inputs.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 April 2020 - 05:09 AM)

Just spent a hour trying to get my brothers new Samsung TV to read his Playstation and Blu Ray player only to find he was using a HDMI splitter.

@  Steevy Maximus : (02 April 2020 - 11:07 AM)

I could never master oral bullshittery. But in my day I was quite adept with the written word.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 April 2020 - 11:32 PM)

You have mastered the art of Bulljive. You must use this power only for good, or entertainment.

@  Sabrblade : (01 April 2020 - 08:58 PM)

This morning, for one of my online classes, I had to give a positive oral presentation about a play that I hated having to watch. I went into it completely unprepared and just winged it. My professor LOVED my presentation and thought it was excellent. She believed every word I said and honestly thought that I enjoyed that miserable play. Best April Fools ever!

@  ▲ndrusi : (01 April 2020 - 10:06 AM)

Happy Everyone Thinks They're A Comedian Now Day!

@  Donocropolis : (31 March 2020 - 05:45 AM)

Who, I might add, has never been photographed together with Byteman. Just sayin'.

@  Sabrblade : (30 March 2020 - 10:27 PM)

Bruce Wayne's cyberpunk cousin?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 09:27 PM)

Laser Wayne

@  Sabrblade : (30 March 2020 - 09:08 PM)

Luther Unum

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 07:09 PM)

Or Lee Derwon.

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:51 PM)

Not to be confused with Leader I

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:50 PM)

He was Leader Uno

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:50 PM)

He was the OTHER Leader 1

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 March 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Or Sideways.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 05:26 PM)

On the other hand, this is Armada we're talking about. It could have actually been Metroplex.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 March 2020 - 11:08 PM)

Oh yeah, that was Fort Max. My bad.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:12 PM)

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Peritus_Maximus

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Christmas Maximus?

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 March 2020 - 01:13 PM)

At least the ozone layer is healing. unless this is a 0.0000000001% thing it's sounds like good news.

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:27 AM)

(But only pretty sure, not 100% sure.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Pretty sure y'all were thinking of Fortress Maximus yesterday.

@  Bass X0 : (28 March 2020 - 12:38 AM)

Dare! Dare to believe you can survive 2020!

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 March 2020 - 08:18 PM)

Baja Blast is back at retail!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 03:47 PM)

Shame he wasn't around more. He seemed like such a jolly, happy soul.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 02:16 PM)

No, he was definitely Metroplex. You could tell because he was in Metroplex's distinctive red and green coloration.

@  Paladin : (27 March 2020 - 02:11 PM)

that was Leader-1. or possibly Jolt. maybe Grindor...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 01:57 PM)

Metroplex was in Armada, in a flashback. He was the same size as everybody else. I thought that was the joke.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (27 March 2020 - 12:39 PM)

@Rodimus Supreme: Gah! You are right! How'd I get that mixed up? x.x;

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 12:14 PM)

There is no Metroplex. Only Zuul.


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#41 Skids

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:18 PM

Its crazy to have  such a historical building burn like that.  Granted its a mix blessing. The ability to rebuild the building with present day mind set, or better construction planning, materials, and technology. Can help this wonderful building in the long run.



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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:22 PM

 

Hey Fnu....please stop ok?  I get it.  It's a historically significant building.  It is not, nor will it ever be, a symbol of the entire human race.  It's a building paid for with blood.  Beautiful, but it's still got a dark history.

I think this could use a touch of qualifying - most of the big, pretty monuments we have lying around from before the last few centuries also happen to be or have been symbols of cruelty and oppression, because that's generally how they got built in the first place. The Pyramids of Giza or something only have a different position now because you don't have a building, ideology, and practice that's in currency in the same capacity or directly mapped to one that is. It's not the origin of the building that changes. 

 

 

The Pyramids are generally understood to not be symbols of cruelty and oppression any longer, because we're getting a better sense of who actually built the things (Namely, NOT slave conscripted labor). They're ultimately...well...

 



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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:28 PM

Let's keep in mind that this isn't the first disaster to befall the building.  It's been left in disrepair (the whole reason the book was written), modified, plundered, damaged by war and added to over it's long lifespan.  Also worth noting that the original renovation didn't have all the original plans, so... what we know as the Notre Dame Cathedral isn't even the original look.

 

 

They supervised a large team of sculptors, glass makers and other craftsmen who remade, working from drawings or engravings, the original decoration, or, if they did not have a model, adding new elements they felt were in the spirit of the original style.

 

Given its prominence in French history and worldwide notoriety, it's very likely they will rebuild it, though that will take a long time to accomplish.

 

That said, it's a terrible tragedy and people are right to be distressed over it, but it's by no means the end of the story for Notre Dame Cathedral.


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#44 Teufel

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:43 PM

I thought it was some sort of bad joke in the morning because it seemed impossible, how could the great Notre Dame be burning? The destruction of the spire was heartbreaking to watch. It's sad and also a bit enraging, this destruction because of some careless mishap. It seemed like it was on fire for hours before any real effort was made to intervene (but that's just from checking on it periodically.) I hope some heads roll but more importantly if they fund raise I'd happily contribute to restore this human marvel.



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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:43 PM

The Pyramids are generally understood to not be symbols of cruelty and oppression any longer, because we're getting a better sense of who actually built the things (Namely, NOT slave conscripted labor). They're ultimately...well...

I wasn't referring to the slave labor myth. Notre Dame didn't use any to my knowledge either.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:58 PM

I thought it was some sort of bad joke in the morning because it seemed impossible, how could the great Notre Dame be burning? The destruction of the spire was heartbreaking to watch. It's sad and also a bit enraging, this destruction because of some careless mishap. It seemed like it was on fire for hours before any real effort was made to intervene (but that's just from checking on it periodically.) I hope some heads roll but more importantly if they fund raise I'd happily contribute to restore this human marvel.

 

Putting it out was problematic due to its Gothic architecture. As I understood it, the weight of the water used to put out the fire could have caused a major collapse of the structure itself (Hence why Gothic buildings are supported with buttresses), so they had to be really careful lest they end up doing more damage.

 

 

The Pyramids are generally understood to not be symbols of cruelty and oppression any longer, because we're getting a better sense of who actually built the things (Namely, NOT slave conscripted labor). They're ultimately...well...

I wasn't referring to the slave labor myth. Notre Dame didn't use any to my knowledge either.

 

 

Fair enough. I'm tired and not communicating well at all - both here and elsewhere, so I apologize if I came off wrong.

 

EDIT: So it seems while Notre Dame burned...a fire also started in Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. Reports say it was put out in short order but still, the timing is...eerie.


Edited by Rust, 15 April 2019 - 09:05 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 09:16 PM

I take great relief out of the fact that no one was hurt in this fire, and that while the structure was damaged, it's nothing that cannot be restored with time and hard work. Notre Dame shall live on. Paris as a city, France as a nation and the world as a whole will not let it die.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 10:10 PM

Great, I was hoping something like this had happened at some point.

 



 



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:16 AM

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She's still beautiful.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:23 AM

Well, a skylight looks good there, at least.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:45 AM

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She's still beautiful.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:59 AM

I'm a religious fool and I call it fantastic workmanship.



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:14 PM

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She's still beautiful.

 

And the stained glass is still standing!



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 03:14 PM

 

Meanwhile, I bet you anything people at Disney are panicking about whether they should cancel or edit their upcoming Hunchback remake out of concerns that parts of it will be "too soon".

 

Just announce that a portion of the revenue will be donated to the rebuilding effort.

 

 

Any profit the film makes after production costs and marketing, should be given to the fund to restore this grand old lady to her former glory.

 

I know from what I've read that the French President is saying within five years but I got this feeling it will take twice as long because its going to be a long and painful reconstruction, the Stain Glass widows will have to have their panels removed and examined because of the fire.

 

 

Its crazy to have  such a historical building burn like that.  Granted its a mix blessing. The ability to rebuild the building with present day mind set, or better construction planning, materials, and technology. Can help this wonderful building in the long run.

 

This old lady going to take a lot for rebuilding because they got to deal with the underlaying issues that were present prior to the fire, the stone work in places is crumbling, so restoration will likely be slow and painful

 

I thought it was some sort of bad joke in the morning because it seemed impossible, how could the great Notre Dame be burning? The destruction of the spire was heartbreaking to watch. It's sad and also a bit enraging, this destruction because of some careless mishap. It seemed like it was on fire for hours before any real effort was made to intervene (but that's just from checking on it periodically.) I hope some heads roll but more importantly if they fund raise I'd happily contribute to restore this human marvel.

 

From what I understand, part of the reason it took so long, aside from trying to save many of the tressures within as humany possible, the roof was made of lead and it was hard to get water into the area where the fire started, plus they had to battle to prevent the two towers from going up in flames as well.

 

There will be a lot of work ahead of the people whose job is to sort out this mess but the first thing is to remove the staffolding surounding the building and replace it and then cover up the roof to shield her from the elements, then they are likely to begin slowly removing the mess within, its not going in skips or off to recycling centres, they are going to be examined by experts. About the only way to sum up what must be done is "The Notre Dame war has begun" The first battle has been won but furrier battles lay a head, but she is strong at eight hundred and fiffty years young, this is nothing, I hope she stands for centuries to come.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 04:16 PM

Apparently the reason the interior damage wasn't worse is because medieval architects assumed the wooden roofs might catch fire someday and so constructed stone vaults beneath the roof to catch burning falling wood. Which is exactly what happened, 854 years later. Now THAT'S an insurance policy.

The roof, btw, had been made of 13,000 oak trees (not a typo), exactly one plank per tree, and each over 300 years old when cut. They don't make 'em like they used to.

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 05:16 PM

In case anyone thought that deforestation was a 20th century problem. X ]


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 05:26 PM

Apparently the reason the interior damage wasn't worse is because medieval architects assumed the wooden roofs might catch fire someday and so constructed stone vaults beneath the roof to catch burning falling wood. Which is exactly what happened, 854 years later. Now THAT'S an insurance policy.

 

 

Doesn't surprise me since cities back then were much more vulnerable to fire.



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 07:05 PM

Fair enough. I'm tired and not communicating well at all - both here and elsewhere, so I apologize if I came off wrong.

Sorry, by the way. I wasn't communicating very clearly myself. = [


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 12:55 PM

Now I wonder how much of the reconstruction will follow the original designs to the letter for the sake of tradition and how much they'll update. Making the roof or literally anything else out of lead nowadays is right out, obviously, but they might also want to reconsider using that much wood.


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