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@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2019 - 03:05 AM)

It's like how the whole "alpha male" thing doesn't really show up in wolf packs in the wild.

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2019 - 01:54 AM)

Aaaaand another myth busted.

@  CORVUS : (24 April 2019 - 12:27 AM)

Quite welcome! :)

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2019 - 09:51 PM)

@Corvus Huh, did not know that part. Thanks for imparting knowledge!

@  Kayla Kaon : (23 April 2019 - 09:27 PM)

No because it's true.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 April 2019 - 09:17 PM)

Would I be jaded if i said that's a good lesson about people as well?

@  CORVUS : (23 April 2019 - 09:01 PM)

Overstated risk. Most observations of sexual cannibalism in the Praying Mantis occurred in captivity, versus nature. When entomologists began observing them in nature instead, they found that sexual cannibalism took place around 30% of the time. Basically, if a male Mantis avoids thin, hungry females, his chances are pretty good. #yesimanerd

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2019 - 07:52 PM)

Are you a male mantis?

@  MEDdMI : (23 April 2019 - 07:27 PM)

Death by snu snu

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2019 - 06:40 PM)

There's a joke about going out with a bang to be made here.

@  Kayla Kaon : (23 April 2019 - 06:38 PM)

I would hope getting laid is preferred over dying :p

@  Nevermore : (23 April 2019 - 05:20 PM)

Don't we all want to get laid?

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2019 - 04:53 PM)

I'd spend the first few loops just taking an extended nap.

@  Dekafox : (23 April 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Endless death time loops certainly happen enough in Star Trek

@  Kayla Kaon : (23 April 2019 - 03:50 PM)

That's not what I had in mind but if that is what you would do in that scenario then that is pretty messed up. I would not want to be stuck in a perpetual loop of death. More like getting laid but that is just me.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2019 - 01:58 PM)

Happy death day to you!

@  Kayla Kaon : (23 April 2019 - 01:45 PM)

.... I would love that. To be stuck in an endless loop where no one remembers what happened... The possibilities :D

@  ZakuConvoy : (23 April 2019 - 01:43 PM)

Are you stuck in a Groundhogs Day situation? Because if you are, you need to tell the rest of us so we can take advantage, too.

@  Kayla Kaon : (23 April 2019 - 11:10 AM)

Lol today needs to end asap so that I can start over tomorrow

@  Ashley : (21 April 2019 - 10:08 PM)

They frequently do, but yeah there's no rule. Google will usually answer it for a specific restaurant, though

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 April 2019 - 02:57 PM)

Depends on the restaurant and the area. There's no universal rule about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 April 2019 - 02:41 PM)

I thought restaurants were one of the few things that stayed open on holidays, along with movie theatres and the like

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 April 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Well here I am hungry on a Sunday afternoon and I head to Chipotle only to find out right then and there that the place is closed for Easter. Yay.

@  MEDdMI : (19 April 2019 - 09:21 PM)

oof, yikes. Good luck.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 April 2019 - 09:18 PM)

We're in the middle of a kitchen reno and NOTHING will be done until tuesday. I could beat a four day weekend with a hammer right now if it meant I could use my stove again.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 April 2019 - 06:47 PM)

Can't beat 4 day weekends either.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 April 2019 - 06:47 PM)

I prefer later shifts myself, but my 3 day weekend shift isn't bad. Nice to work without those administration busy bodies poking around.

@  Nevermore : (19 April 2019 - 04:12 AM)

Yeah, traffic is a plus as well. Rarely got any trouble getting to work on late shift (even with the neverending construction site on the highway), and when my shift is over, there's hardly any traffic at all anymore.

@  MEDdMI : (18 April 2019 - 06:27 PM)

while I don't have weekends consistently off, working 2nd shift isn't so bad. I'm more likely to do stuff before work than after (when I'm already tired). Plus no rush hour traffic

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 April 2019 - 05:03 PM)

Switching shifts constantly is never good for one's health. There was a time when I worked overnights steady for about 2 years; did wonders for my health, as well

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:36 PM)

Don't miss early shift (and especially switching back and forth every two weeks) a bit.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:36 PM)

Man, permanent late shift really has done wonders for my overal well-being. Never having to get up early for work, staying up late, weekends off... a ot of my coworkers think I'm crazy, but late shift is really my preferred shift.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:33 PM)

(My total lack of sleep on that day might have contributed, though.)

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:33 PM)

At noon, it was warm.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:33 PM)

On Monday, we went on strike early in the morning, I was also wearing to jackets and gloves and my toes and fingers were freezing.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 April 2019 - 04:31 PM)

Nope, right now my days are doing that. Frigid at night (Well, just below zero, but still.) and warm enough to be always be ill prepared during the day.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Today it's so warm I had to take a shower to wash off the sweat after a lengthy bike trip.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:27 PM)

This past Friday I was wearing two jackets and winter gloves outside and took a hot bath when I returned home.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:27 PM)

Is "April weather" an issue in other countries as well, or is that specifically a German phenomenon?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Well, when you understand the history of the area it make sense. It's basically a series of countries buying the place, moving in, saying "we rule you people now", and the locals shrugging and responding, "okay, you have fun with that".

@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2019 - 07:58 AM)

When did we all turn into Henry Higgins?

@  unluckiness : (16 April 2019 - 03:16 AM)

To be fair, most Americans can't get the hang of English, so I can understand why.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:15 AM)

(And yeah, Calliope is a Greek muse, not French, but the street was named BY the French when they took over.)

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:10 AM)

In New Orleans there's a bunch of streets with French names that are pronounced by locals with a more English emphasis, for example "Calliope Street" is pronounced "CAL-lee-ope".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 11:56 PM)

I figured as much for Canadians.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2019 - 11:37 PM)

hm; whenever I've heard people talk about the school they said it the same way as the cathedral...but I guess that's in Canada, so they're probably more familiar with the cathedral than the school

@  Dracula : (15 April 2019 - 11:11 PM)

There's plenty of place names in the US like that. Around here we have an "el doh-RAY-doh," and up north there's a Cairo that's pronounced "kay-roh"

@  RichardT1977 : (15 April 2019 - 09:56 PM)

Yeah, the common pronunciation of the University is probably the reason most Americans don't pronounce the Cathedral name correctly.

@  Arazyr : (15 April 2019 - 08:03 PM)

That's my understanding of how the two are supposed to be pronounced as well.

@  Echowarrior : (15 April 2019 - 07:42 PM)

When I'm talking about the cathedral, I say "noh-treh dahme". When I talk about the university, I say "noh-ter dayme". I don't see a problem with that.


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#41 Skids

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:18 PM

Its crazy to have  such a historical building burn like that.  Granted its a mix blessing. The ability to rebuild the building with present day mind set, or better construction planning, materials, and technology. Can help this wonderful building in the long run.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:22 PM

 

Hey Fnu....please stop ok?  I get it.  It's a historically significant building.  It is not, nor will it ever be, a symbol of the entire human race.  It's a building paid for with blood.  Beautiful, but it's still got a dark history.

I think this could use a touch of qualifying - most of the big, pretty monuments we have lying around from before the last few centuries also happen to be or have been symbols of cruelty and oppression, because that's generally how they got built in the first place. The Pyramids of Giza or something only have a different position now because you don't have a building, ideology, and practice that's in currency in the same capacity or directly mapped to one that is. It's not the origin of the building that changes. 

 

 

The Pyramids are generally understood to not be symbols of cruelty and oppression any longer, because we're getting a better sense of who actually built the things (Namely, NOT slave conscripted labor). They're ultimately...well...

 


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:28 PM

Let's keep in mind that this isn't the first disaster to befall the building.  It's been left in disrepair (the whole reason the book was written), modified, plundered, damaged by war and added to over it's long lifespan.  Also worth noting that the original renovation didn't have all the original plans, so... what we know as the Notre Dame Cathedral isn't even the original look.

 

 

They supervised a large team of sculptors, glass makers and other craftsmen who remade, working from drawings or engravings, the original decoration, or, if they did not have a model, adding new elements they felt were in the spirit of the original style.

 

Given its prominence in French history and worldwide notoriety, it's very likely they will rebuild it, though that will take a long time to accomplish.

 

That said, it's a terrible tragedy and people are right to be distressed over it, but it's by no means the end of the story for Notre Dame Cathedral.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:43 PM

I thought it was some sort of bad joke in the morning because it seemed impossible, how could the great Notre Dame be burning? The destruction of the spire was heartbreaking to watch. It's sad and also a bit enraging, this destruction because of some careless mishap. It seemed like it was on fire for hours before any real effort was made to intervene (but that's just from checking on it periodically.) I hope some heads roll but more importantly if they fund raise I'd happily contribute to restore this human marvel.



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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:43 PM

The Pyramids are generally understood to not be symbols of cruelty and oppression any longer, because we're getting a better sense of who actually built the things (Namely, NOT slave conscripted labor). They're ultimately...well...

I wasn't referring to the slave labor myth. Notre Dame didn't use any to my knowledge either.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 08:58 PM

I thought it was some sort of bad joke in the morning because it seemed impossible, how could the great Notre Dame be burning? The destruction of the spire was heartbreaking to watch. It's sad and also a bit enraging, this destruction because of some careless mishap. It seemed like it was on fire for hours before any real effort was made to intervene (but that's just from checking on it periodically.) I hope some heads roll but more importantly if they fund raise I'd happily contribute to restore this human marvel.

 

Putting it out was problematic due to its Gothic architecture. As I understood it, the weight of the water used to put out the fire could have caused a major collapse of the structure itself (Hence why Gothic buildings are supported with buttresses), so they had to be really careful lest they end up doing more damage.

 

 

The Pyramids are generally understood to not be symbols of cruelty and oppression any longer, because we're getting a better sense of who actually built the things (Namely, NOT slave conscripted labor). They're ultimately...well...

I wasn't referring to the slave labor myth. Notre Dame didn't use any to my knowledge either.

 

 

Fair enough. I'm tired and not communicating well at all - both here and elsewhere, so I apologize if I came off wrong.

 

EDIT: So it seems while Notre Dame burned...a fire also started in Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. Reports say it was put out in short order but still, the timing is...eerie.


Edited by Rust, 15 April 2019 - 09:05 PM.

Don't fight it, it's coming for you, running at ya / It's only this moment, don't care what comes after
Your fever dream, can't you see it getting closer / Just surrender 'cause you feel the feeling taking over
It's fire, it's freedom, it's flooding open / It's a preacher in the pulpit and you'll find devotion
There's something breaking at the brick of every wall, it's holding All that you know
So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 09:16 PM

I take great relief out of the fact that no one was hurt in this fire, and that while the structure was damaged, it's nothing that cannot be restored with time and hard work. Notre Dame shall live on. Paris as a city, France as a nation and the world as a whole will not let it die.


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Posted 15 April 2019 - 10:10 PM

Great, I was hoping something like this had happened at some point.

 



 



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:16 AM

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She's still beautiful.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:23 AM

Well, a skylight looks good there, at least.



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:45 AM

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She's still beautiful.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:59 AM

I'm a religious fool and I call it fantastic workmanship.


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Your fever dream, can't you see it getting closer / Just surrender 'cause you feel the feeling taking over
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So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:14 PM

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She's still beautiful.

 

And the stained glass is still standing!



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 03:14 PM

 

Meanwhile, I bet you anything people at Disney are panicking about whether they should cancel or edit their upcoming Hunchback remake out of concerns that parts of it will be "too soon".

 

Just announce that a portion of the revenue will be donated to the rebuilding effort.

 

 

Any profit the film makes after production costs and marketing, should be given to the fund to restore this grand old lady to her former glory.

 

I know from what I've read that the French President is saying within five years but I got this feeling it will take twice as long because its going to be a long and painful reconstruction, the Stain Glass widows will have to have their panels removed and examined because of the fire.

 

 

Its crazy to have  such a historical building burn like that.  Granted its a mix blessing. The ability to rebuild the building with present day mind set, or better construction planning, materials, and technology. Can help this wonderful building in the long run.

 

This old lady going to take a lot for rebuilding because they got to deal with the underlaying issues that were present prior to the fire, the stone work in places is crumbling, so restoration will likely be slow and painful

 

I thought it was some sort of bad joke in the morning because it seemed impossible, how could the great Notre Dame be burning? The destruction of the spire was heartbreaking to watch. It's sad and also a bit enraging, this destruction because of some careless mishap. It seemed like it was on fire for hours before any real effort was made to intervene (but that's just from checking on it periodically.) I hope some heads roll but more importantly if they fund raise I'd happily contribute to restore this human marvel.

 

From what I understand, part of the reason it took so long, aside from trying to save many of the tressures within as humany possible, the roof was made of lead and it was hard to get water into the area where the fire started, plus they had to battle to prevent the two towers from going up in flames as well.

 

There will be a lot of work ahead of the people whose job is to sort out this mess but the first thing is to remove the staffolding surounding the building and replace it and then cover up the roof to shield her from the elements, then they are likely to begin slowly removing the mess within, its not going in skips or off to recycling centres, they are going to be examined by experts. About the only way to sum up what must be done is "The Notre Dame war has begun" The first battle has been won but furrier battles lay a head, but she is strong at eight hundred and fiffty years young, this is nothing, I hope she stands for centuries to come.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 04:16 PM

Apparently the reason the interior damage wasn't worse is because medieval architects assumed the wooden roofs might catch fire someday and so constructed stone vaults beneath the roof to catch burning falling wood. Which is exactly what happened, 854 years later. Now THAT'S an insurance policy.

The roof, btw, had been made of 13,000 oak trees (not a typo), exactly one plank per tree, and each over 300 years old when cut. They don't make 'em like they used to.

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 05:16 PM

In case anyone thought that deforestation was a 20th century problem. X ]


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 05:26 PM

Apparently the reason the interior damage wasn't worse is because medieval architects assumed the wooden roofs might catch fire someday and so constructed stone vaults beneath the roof to catch burning falling wood. Which is exactly what happened, 854 years later. Now THAT'S an insurance policy.

 

 

Doesn't surprise me since cities back then were much more vulnerable to fire.



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 07:05 PM

Fair enough. I'm tired and not communicating well at all - both here and elsewhere, so I apologize if I came off wrong.

Sorry, by the way. I wasn't communicating very clearly myself. = [


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 12:55 PM

Now I wonder how much of the reconstruction will follow the original designs to the letter for the sake of tradition and how much they'll update. Making the roof or literally anything else out of lead nowadays is right out, obviously, but they might also want to reconsider using that much wood.


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