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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#61 GodSentinelOmega

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 11:45 AM

'sigh'

It is very depressing that the film isn't even out yet, and people are whinging about it being a film about this. There first reaction is to bash of toxic masculinity and white guys and all the rest.

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Posted 02 September 2019 - 02:45 PM

Joker is toxic incarnate. How would you even make a Joker film without it directly or indirectly bringing up these subjects?


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Posted 02 September 2019 - 02:59 PM

Eh, just feels like a clickbait article, it just summarizes other reviews. It even includes positive ones further down.

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Posted 03 September 2019 - 11:29 AM

I have seen a few comments along those lines scattered across the internet.  It makes me think there is going to be at least one mass shooting associated with this movie.



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Posted 04 September 2019 - 04:41 PM

I mean, we've already had one Joker related mass shooting seven years back, remember?


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Posted 04 September 2019 - 05:57 PM

Killing Joke already showed why only idiots take the Joker as a role model.

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 01:42 PM

I mean, we've already had one Joker related mass shooting seven years back, remember?

 

Yeah, and that was 7 years and a whole lot of stupid cultural developments ago.



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Posted 10 September 2019 - 09:12 AM

Killing Joke already showed why only idiots take the Joker as a role model.

 

Ironically, "The Killing Joke" absolutely solidified the exact idea of the Joker that idiots use as a role model.


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Posted 10 September 2019 - 10:54 AM

Unfortunately, there is not and has never been a shortage of idiots.

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Posted 24 September 2019 - 07:34 PM


The U.S. military has warned service members about the potential for a mass shooter at screenings of the Warner Bros. film Joker, which has sparked wide concerns from, among others, the families of those killed during the 2012 mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado.
 
The U.S. Army confirmed on Tuesday that the warning was widely distributed after social media posts related to extremists classified as “incels,” were uncovered by intelligence officials at the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
 
In a September 18th email, service members were instructed to remain aware of their surroundings and “identify two escape routes” when entering theaters. In the event of a shooting, they were instructed to “run, hide, fight.” https://io9.gizmodo....viol-1838412331  
 
 
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Posted 25 September 2019 - 02:02 PM

'Sigh'

What us wrong with the world when they are convinced that a film will 'incite' people to do bad things. Blaming films or games or whatever for the horrible acts some people may commit is awful and a copout. A way of shifting the fault and turning it into 'see! It wasn't me! This thing Made me do it!".

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Posted 25 September 2019 - 09:37 PM

I mean, we've already had one Joker related mass shooting seven years back, remember?

 

Have we?

 

 

The Washington Post’s story with the photo gallery said this: “Holmes, who told police he was ‘the Joker’ … .”

The article linked to a 2012 ABC News report with a statement by New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, saying Holmes had called himself the Joker.

Kelly’s comment to the press appears to be the origin of this myth. Why the NYPD police commissioner would be in a position to know anything about police activity in Aurora is beyond me.

The New York Times compounded the error in the initial reports by saying “witnesses told the police that Mr. Holmes said something to the effect of ‘I am the Joker,’ according to a federal law enforcement official.”

“It is not true,” said George Brauchler, the 18th Judicial District attorney, who prosecuted the case.

 

“It is ridiculous,” he said. “Completely unfounded. Some of this stuff. … It gets repeated by so many sources by people doing their research that it just becomes real.”

 

Investigators heard no witness talking about the Joker, he said. And no police officer claimed Holmes called himself the Joker.

 

Brauchler said his team decided “not to push the issue” in trial because “we didn’t feel we needed to.” Their job was to convict Holmes and seek the death penalty, not to set the record straight.

 

“The Dark Knight Rises” was simply a blockbuster opening at the time that Holmes had determined that he wanted to commit the crime, Brauchler said.

 

“If it had been ‘The Avengers,’ he would have been there,” he said. “If it were ‘Jurassic World,’ he would have been there. It had nothing to do that we can find with Batman.”

 

 

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But what about the countless reports stating that Holmes explicitly claimed to be the Joker? As John Miller reported on the CBS show "Face the Nation," that initial claim "turned out not to be true."

 

In fact, Miller noted, "Every single witness that (the police) have spoken to, and that we (CBS News) have spoken to, has said that he did not say a word, he just opened fire. And in fact he was wearing a gas mask with a movie going on in the background so had he actually elected to say anything, no one would have heard him anyway."



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Posted 26 September 2019 - 09:13 AM

'Sigh'

What us wrong with the world when they are convinced that a film will 'incite' people to do bad things. Blaming films or games or whatever for the horrible acts some people may commit is awful and a copout. A way of shifting the fault and turning it into 'see! It wasn't me! This thing Made me do it!".

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Posted 26 September 2019 - 10:08 AM

 

This looks good, but... they know the Joker doesn't wear makeup, right?

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And the character never had facial scars until TDK.

 

 

And I'll never accept THAT as the Joker, either, no matter how good Ledger was.



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Posted 27 September 2019 - 08:20 AM

so it's not just the subject; the directors' a toxic dipshit too. Good to know.
 

“I literally described to Joaquin [Phoenix] at one point in those three months as like, ‘Look at this as a way to sneak a real movie in the studio system under the guise of a comic book film,'” Phillips told The Wrap. “It wasn’t, ‘We want to glorify this behavior.’ It was literally like, ‘Let’s make a real movie with a real budget and we’ll call it [expletive] Joker’. That’s what it was.”  https://kvoa.com/new...left-criticism/

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 08:30 AM

I'm watching it on Monday. I hope it hits a home run.

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Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:32 AM

 

so it's not just the subject; the directors' a toxic dipshit too. Good to know.
 

“I literally described to Joaquin [Phoenix] at one point in those three months as like, ‘Look at this as a way to sneak a real movie in the studio system under the guise of a comic book film,'” Phillips told The Wrap. “It wasn’t, ‘We want to glorify this behavior.’ It was literally like, ‘Let’s make a real movie with a real budget and we’ll call it [expletive] Joker’. That’s what it was.”  https://kvoa.com/new...left-criticism/

 

 

Well, that's certainly all kinds of wrong.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 September 2019 - 08:47 AM

I'll probably see it once I get a payday. 'They' have been blaming the media for violence for as long as I can remember when really violence has been a part of the media since media existed. Anyone ever read the Illiad or the Odyssey? Beowulf? Divine Comedy? The Bible?

I've been watching movies, listening to music and playing video games my whole life. I have yet to go on a shooting spree. As of this moment I still have no plans that lean that way.

I'm going to watch this movie, if not in the theater then on Bluray. It looks like it could be a really entertaining movie.
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Posted 30 September 2019 - 12:34 PM

Saw it. It's somber and serious but still pretty awesome. The hex with the ending, yow!

A little too much underwear scenes for me, haha. Robert de Niro was great too.

Just wondering but... why Arthur Fleck? Had that been used before?

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Posted 30 September 2019 - 06:40 PM

Just wondering but... why Arthur Fleck?

 

To set this Joker apart from other interpretations of the Joker, as his own person.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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