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@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.


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#21 Teufel

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:01 PM

The world will look up and shout, "Save us!" and I'll whisper "Why so serious?"

 

I have a number of qualms with the very notion of a Joker film, but I have to say this trailer is fantastic and moved me from "Meh, maybe when it's streaming" to my ass being in a theater seat come October. To be fair near-zero expectations aren't hard to beat, but hey. It was hauntingly beautiful with some neat cinematography. The lovely music playing to the contrast to the fetid Gotham and the strange-with-a-hint-of-unhinged Joaquin really caught my attention. I'm really digging the squalid NYC 70's/80's feel, you can look at it and know Western Civilization is a just couple more swirls around the toilet bowl away from being flushed down the drain for good.

 

No idea if it'll actually be good, of course, but it's a far more interesting-looking product than I was expecting.


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:13 PM

This is the first DC movie trailer that's made me sit up and take notice, so that counts for something.

 

Still holding reservations just because DC has an abysmal track record with their movies, but this does look promising.


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:37 PM

meh... Heath Ledger will always be my favorite Joker. I'll go see it and hope that it doesn't suck.... knowing how DC is with their movies it probably will suck. 


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:26 AM

. . . . . i just don't need a sympathetic Joker.  I don't need to feel sorry for him.  I don't need to understand him.  I don't need to feel some kind of empathy for the Joker.  I don't.  

This looks interesting, don't get me wrong.  I've enjoyed movies and stories like Falling Down.  That whole 'one bad day' trope.  I don't need that here.  I don't need that with the Joker.  

 

I am sure I will watch this.  Eventually.  But it's entirely unnecessary.  And, honestly, it just doesn't sit right with me. 


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 02:01 AM


 

 
For me, the trailer was less "Taxi Driver" and more "Falling Down". There's an old saw of the Internet that as a kid you idolize Batman but as an adult you realize Joker makes more sense. I think that's pretty much the driving premise of the film.
 


Eh.

Part of why I like The Killing Joke is it challenges that. Sure millionaire Bruce Wayne had a far more stable position to rebuild from than 'Jack' but that's why Gordon is involved too. Trauma and the unfair madness of life can break someone but there is always a choice. A line you do not cross lest you become that which hurt you and further poison the world. A particular case being that nut who claimed he was the Joker and shot up a movie theater.

The Joker doesn't make more sense. He's just the easy, short term answer to a difficult question.

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 05:18 AM

This looks like it could be good and also an easy mark for who to stay away from in the same sense Fight Club was.

But also good god can we let this hugging mass murderer super insane edgelord Joker thing rest, it was barely a good idea in the first place and I am so god damned tired of his whole schtick.

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 06:02 AM

 

Eh.

Part of why I like The Killing Joke is it challenges that. Sure millionaire Bruce Wayne had a far more stable position to rebuild from than 'Jack' but that's why Gordon is involved too. Trauma and the unfair madness of life can break someone but there is always a choice. A line you do not cross lest you become that which hurt you and further poison the world. A particular case being that nut who claimed he was the Joker and shot up a movie theater.

The Joker doesn't make more sense. He's just the easy, short term answer to a difficult question.

 

 

The notebook of "jokes" at 0:24 of the trailer has in it: "The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't"

 

Arthur/Joker of this story is someone who clearly as issues - his faked smile to what I assume is his therapist at the beginning of the trailer, seemingly checking himself into Arkham implication, taking care of his mother/someone who obviously isn't capable of taking care of herself given the bath scene. Arthur is going to be a man with demons...and the trailer showcases two instances of him getting beaten up.

 

You are right that everyone makes a choice, but that's why I compared the trailer to "Falling Down". What happens around the individual can make that choice for us.

 

 

But also good god can we let this hugging mass murderer super insane edgelord Joker thing rest, it was barely a good idea in the first place and I am so god damned tired of his whole schtick.

 

Except as I pointed out above, it doesn't seem like this rendition of Joker is going to be "super insane edgelord". Just a guy with a mental illness who is effectively told to shut up by society at large, and boy howdy if that isn't a reflection on our own world. Even today, nearly 20 years into the 21st Century, it's still taboo to talk about mental illness or be free and open with the fact an individual deals with such.

 

Now obviously this movie is taking things to incredible extremes and I don't disagree with the worry about glamorizing a serial killer (Though the success of various Netflix documentaries and shows like Criminal Minds means it's a frighteningly viable market to tap into), but if it helps the conversation about the stigma surrounding mental illness I'm all for that. Already in just this teaser, we already get more insight and motivation into what makes this version of the character tick than we ever did with Ledger or Leto's portrayals.

 

 

Random thought that I jotted down but had no place to put above:

 

The bits of him appearing on what seems like a Johnny Carson-esque show makes me think it's going to end like The Dark Knight Returns - meaning maybe he'll be the first second (EDIT: I forgot Nicolson's Joker did use gas, thought that stuff just made you dead) on-screen Joker to use the iconic gas. We know at least one scene involving him causing a riot in a subway station by unknown means and the trailer doesn't make Arthur out to be a very persuasive individual.


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:47 AM

Just like when Rob Zombie had Mike Meyers murder Danny Trejo....


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:51 AM

His work in Austin Powers was terrific. I can't believe they ended the series on him butchering Doctor Evil that way.



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:52 AM

 

Just like when Rob Zombie had Mike Meyers murder Danny Trejo....


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:55 AM

Someone needs to do that mashup.
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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:57 AM

I'm literally laughing myself silly imaging Danny Trejo begging for his life with various Mike Meyers quotes playing in response. Ending, of course, with "Schwing!"



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:58 AM

Though I would pay to see Mike Myers try to take out Danny Trejo.

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 10:59 AM


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Posted 04 April 2019 - 02:21 PM

Did a rough prototype. I think they should stick with the original mask.

 

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 03:31 PM

This looks good, but... they know the Joker doesn't wear makeup, right?

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 03:44 PM

Dude seems to be an amalgam of all various Joker incarnations (Including real life variants like Ted Bundy, given the style of the makeup). The longer hair and greasepaint seem to be the Ledger contribution much in the way the suit is Romero.



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 07:21 PM

And then, right at the very end, some other guy turns out to be the Joker.
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Posted 04 April 2019 - 09:06 PM

This looks good, but... they know the Joker doesn't wear makeup, right?

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And the character never had facial scars until TDK.

 

 

At this point, I've seen too many different variations across different media to give a flip anymore.  If handled well, I think this could be an effective interpretation of the Joker.  With the most disturbing element being...just how close a lot of us are to "crossing the line" that Joker ends up leaping across.  While I think there will some attempt to sympathize with the character, the reality is that is we'll sympathize in the situation, which makes it all the more disturbing when he goes over the edge.

 

Just like it's possible to sympathize with a victim of abuse who ends up murdering others, just because we can sympathize doesn't make what they did any less horrific.  I get that's the feeling the filmmakers are hoping to accomplish with this film.



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 09:55 PM

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