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that's right. my gym teacher is a clown. new series coming to disney channel next fall

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all these clowns are making me run really fast.

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All this awesome SDCC news is really making these boards run slowly.

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Racism must be stopped. No matter the cost.

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Tine to stop buttering it up.

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Well shucks.

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The joke is a husk of its former self.

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Pop.

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Something something... corn bread?

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Ok, ok. Enough of the puns and let's all thank Kal for the amaizeing job he did.

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by now I think this jokes' been creamed.

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The kernel.

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Who gives the orders in cybernetic warfare?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:59 PM)

Zea mays

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Isn't that a kernel of truth.

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 08:43 PM)

huh. suddenly the Squawk is popping.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Not placing much stalk in this conversation.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 06:22 PM)

That's so corny.

@  Shrug : (16 July 2019 - 06:07 PM)

It's absurd how happy I am that a post of mine made the front page of Reddit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

Aww, shucks.

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:45 PM)

Not till I taste the corn

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 05:43 PM)

You guys aren't being very nice. You're supposed to tell me I did "good, really good!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:40 PM)

Just don't go beyond the rows.

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

Left over from the failed Beast Machines sequel, Beast Farmers

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

It's techno-organic corn

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:26 PM)

We have a cornfield? Can I get a few ears?

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:56 PM)

And lastly, if it becomes too much hassle to deal with - it might just get sent into the cornfield and replaced with a Discord box anyway. So cool it.

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Second thing is we do actually have the ability to ban users specifically from using Shoutbox if it's being abused like that

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Hey all - just a reminder and heads up. The Shoutbox has been kept here as a courtesy because it's what you folks like in lieu of Discord - but a few things to remember is that P&R should stay in P&R and isn't really something that needs to be dragged out here in the most public of spaces.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Done.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 10:25 AM)

You can make a new one. I doubt anybody would stop you.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 10:16 AM)

There was a thread but it appears to have disappeared. Might have been lost in one of the older forum sweeps.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 09:58 AM)

Yeah this is pretty much circumventing the fact that we have different rules for political talk.

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Okay, so, basically, can we not do politics in here anymore? I mean, considering how often @Nevermore, you talk about your work conditions, don't you think it's time for a dedicated thread in P&R?

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Scratch that; that's insulting to honest salads. Whatever that was was the text equivalent of hamburger.

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Would you like some dressing to go with your word salad?

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yes; it now goes "shit piss hug *BLEEP* ^$@^ motherhuger **** turd fart encyclopedia & Socialism."

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This is an American site, but isn't that unnecessarily severe language? IIRC it's one of the top four offensive pejoratives to English people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2019 - 08:52 AM)

It's amusing how so many (U.S.) wankers in this world love to whine "capitalism good socialism bad!" in the abstract while simultaneously pretending that megacorporations dominating de facto monopolies is anathema to the core capitalistic principle of competition benefits everyone.

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I know Shockwave's super mode is pretty lame and Magnus is kinda greebly but it's not that bad.

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Though with the luck and caliber of leaders we've had of late in the darkest timeline, maybe it's too much to hope for.

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Just like democracy, it's not perfect but better than the present alternatives. Capitalism as it's practiced today won't be able to weather the coming wave of automation, though. Best to plan for it and hope for a gentle transition rather than the aforementioned collapse

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Capitalism is the worst amiright? Sent from my iPhone

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Because the collapse is gonna be just great.

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Let's hope this is late stage and we're on the cusp of something better.

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Late stage capitalism is the absolute best.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 01:33 PM)

So, welcome to all retail, everywhere.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Oh, and Greenpeace also conducted a protest at a German Amazon facility, to protest against Amazon's practice of throwing customer returns in the trash.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

Right, because with Amazon, it's just the employees that have to step in dog shit while having no space to breathe.[/slightexaggeration]

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At least I can use Amazon without losing the ability to breath or step in dog shit.


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#1 Benbot

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 07:58 AM

Can you 3D print something with any sort of precision?  I am designing something with multiple parts and I'm not sure what kind of tolerances I should consider for the various assemblies.  I don't have a printer, so I figured I would use an online service for actually producing the parts.  Anyone have experience with this?  Is it all trial and error?  That's rather expensive trial and error...



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:50 PM

I haven't had a chance to mess with 3d printing, personally, but I do try to keep up with it for when I can finally splurge on one

It depends on the printer. Most plastic filament printers aren't nearly as precise as a resin printer would be, for instance.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:58 PM

Depending on materials, you can 3D print something with micron accurate precision.  I assume a lot of us are using ShapeWays and their Ultra High Detail transparent plastic is incredibly precise for 3D printing.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:31 PM

I have a 3D printing question.  Is it possible to take a photograph of someone and make a 3D action figure? or Would I need to translate the photo into a 3D rendering software first?



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:35 PM

That's a very big and expensive job, generally.  There are some places out there that can reliably translate orthographic photos of someone into a sculpt, but you'll just get a sculpture out of it.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

Sculpture is fine actually.. I guess action figure was the wrong word.  I was just thinking of unique holiday gifts.

 

edit>> looking on shape ways site it seems i could even turn them into a mini for RPGs..  they'd love that..


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:39 PM

Try running "photo into action figure" on Google and you'll get a chunk of results from places that'll custom print heads to stick on existing bodies or create miniatures.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

Depending on materials, you can 3D print something with micron accurate precision.  I assume a lot of us are using ShapeWays and their Ultra High Detail transparent plastic is incredibly precise for 3D printing.

And now their acrylate as well, which is also more durable to my understanding. 

 

But yeah, resin / SLA > sintering / SLS > FDM / home printers with an extruder, generally both in accuracy / resolution and in cost. Some cheaper SLA options like Shapeways' acrylate have been surfacing, though. Not something you want to deal with as a home printer unless you have a semi-professional application with a lot of throughput.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:00 PM

Can 3D printing produce something smooth enough to pass off as an official toy from a real company? Because all the 3D printed stuff I've seen has visible ridges where the rows of tiny little voxels meet.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:22 PM

Not yet, but they're getting pretty impressively close.  And a lot of that is actually due to the quality of the original model involved.

 

Depending on materials, you can 3D print something with micron accurate precision.  I assume a lot of us are using ShapeWays and their Ultra High Detail transparent plastic is incredibly precise for 3D printing.

And now their acrylate as well, which is also more durable to my understanding. 

 

But yeah, resin / SLA > sintering / SLS > FDM / home printers with an extruder, generally both in accuracy / resolution and in cost. Some cheaper SLA options like Shapeways' acrylate have been surfacing, though. Not something you want to deal with as a home printer unless you have a semi-professional application with a lot of throughput.

 

The black acrylate is pretty good, but it still has microridges, which I'm not fond of, personally.  I still prefer the frosted ultra detail stuff, although you have to be conscious to only use that on models with a relatively high polycount, I've noticed.  Any low poly stuff comes out really faceted.


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#11 Copper Bezel

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:28 PM

Ah, good to know.

Not yet, but they're getting pretty impressively close.  And a lot of that is actually due to the quality of the original model involved.


Yeah, what I've got in custom parts in FUD, I can't see an appreciable difference after painting from the injection molded parts, but if course, pricey. And it still has to deal with that ridged surface on the bottom surfaces of the part, right?
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:37 PM

Ah, good to know.
 

Not yet, but they're getting pretty impressively close.  And a lot of that is actually due to the quality of the original model involved.


Yeah, what I've got in custom parts in FUD, I can't see an appreciable difference after painting from the injection molded parts, but if course, pricey. And it still has to deal with that ridged surface on the bottom surfaces of the part, right?

 

The frosted stuff doesn't really seem to have ridges, not like the black acrylate at any rate.  On some surfaces, it's just sort of mildly rough and you can polish it off.  More flexible than I'd expected, though.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:14 PM

WIth 3D Printing.  I work library which has it own 3D printer.  From my experience with using it and what coworkers can do.  You can get some pretty precise stuff.  You do have a lot of control of how you want #D object.  Its just making sure the model or when you print it. is all correct in the dimension your going for.

 

Some stuff that can be helpful for everyone. To try 3d printing and at low cost.  See if any libraries in your state offer 3D printing.  For Ohio, Cleveland Libraries, have few branches that offer it.  Where they can do 3D print at the cost of $.05 per gram of the objects weight.  With a variety of plastic color to choose from.  Plus their 3 ways they take 3D request. 1. You can e-mail them file with instruction to them.  Where its usually stl file.  2. E-mail a file from thingverse you want printed.  Thingverse is the free 3d files sharing community people use.  For us this were we got the bulk of all files for our print requests.  So if your having trouble making something or want to see a completeled file.  As reference to mae your own.  I would recommend this. 3 Scanning an object.  Some places allow you to scan an object and the machine can convert into 3D file.  I know with my branch we can do this but we have one that isn't good for small things so we never since I only want to scan small detail stuff. So ugh.

 

General tips. For small detail objects.  Depending on who you go to can determine if it can be made or not.  Some 3D printers can't do small things correctly.  Especially if they have curves.  Like I had this made.  https://www.thingive...g:2304808/#madea 3d object of custom Titan Return Wheelie slingshot.  That flat side when I had mine printed was bit warped and you can see the plastic lines mush together instead of smooth object. So be careful with that.  I know with Trent Troop's shapeway heads.  Those come out great from them even with small detail so shapeways good with that.  Try to get the high quality since the default ones can be bit fuzzy off base of plastic quality.

 

Some detail can break off 3D figures.  Becareful with certain thin details.  I had printed the eevee and its evoled forms from pokemon .  Out of the 8 print.  # had their ears and tail broke off because the plastic was paper thinish.  So do becareful if you print like that.

 

Plastic quality.  Shapeways should be ok with this but for libraries and if your getting your own plastic be aware. 3D printed plastic can go bad. So don't be afraid ask and check on this.  Now I don't me the plastic will go bad in the sense the object with crumble into dust after you printed.  I mean the plastic can go bad for crafting purposes.  Like their is a shelf life.  Where if the 3D printer plastic isn't used up or is left exposed to the air too long.  It can become a few thing but mainly difficult to use with the 3d printers.  Like for us we had it gunk up our printed, not sticking together as it should on certain objects, and being too hard to use right. So e cautious on sale of older 3d printer plastic.

 

Other then that go to town on this stuff.  Their is a lot out their and it just becoming more common.  Theirs a lot of cool 3d prints out their.  Between Shapeways and thingverse you can have a field day.  So find what you think is cool for you.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:14 AM

I had no idea libraries had 3D printers.  I had no idea a library near me had a 3D printer.  That is cool as hell.


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 09:26 AM

Yeah, MakerSpaces have been a big tend in the last five years or so and the 3D printers have been the flagship service for them (alongside graphics workstations, sewing machines, photography mini-studios, even small milling machines.)
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Posted 15 August 2017 - 12:01 PM

Looks like my local library has one too..   interesting.



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:01 AM

The local library's had one for a year or so now. 

 

Unfortunately, it appears to be a low-grade one, as the items they've put on display have been rather rough. 



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 01:57 AM

I have a 3D printing question.  Is it possible to take a photograph of someone and make a 3D action figure? or Would I need to translate the photo into a 3D rendering software first?

 

 

Try running "photo into action figure" on Google and you'll get a chunk of results from places that'll custom print heads to stick on existing bodies or create miniatures.

 

The term you want is "photogrammetry".


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 03:32 AM

The local library's had one for a year or so now. 

 

Unfortunately, it appears to be a low-grade one, as the items they've put on display have been rather rough. 

It's a mix of a number of things. 

 

First, the kind of 3D printer used in library MakerSpaces is an FDM printer, which is the safe and friendly 3D printing technology that involves extruding layers of PLA plastic onto a bed, and it has a much lower resolution than the technologies used by Shapeways and other services. Libraries - and most home users - need something safe and nontoxic that doesn't smell funny, involve chemicals that can go bad, or only work at volume. You have to moderate your expectations a little and approach it with the kinds of projects that it can realistically be used for. 

 

Second, the slicer software and configuration can make an enormous difference in the quality of an FDM print, as can experience and tricks in learning to model for 3D printing. With practice and experimentation, you can pull a much more impressive piece out of the same FDM printer. 


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 11:13 PM

Wait. Only work at volume?
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