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@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.


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#21 Sharkshadow

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 05:28 AM

 my character did not survive the next session when his debt to the elemental came due so it kinda worked out. so i made a dwarf with a combat segway afterwards. 



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 07:56 AM

Have I ever told you guys about how our Neutral Good Cleric had his alignment changed by the DM to Chaotic Neutral because he kept doing stupid shit?


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#23 GodSentinelOmega

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:01 AM

How does that work?

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#24 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:17 AM

Rule Zero: What the DM says, goes.

If you're not gonna act your alignment, you lose it.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:34 PM

 

How? What happened?

i was playing a troll mage and i had spent the cash on an item that was basically a Rolodex of elemental beings. so i summoned an elder fire elemental and let him go to town.  our parties other mage called me an idiot for summoning an unbound elemental and summoned a giant water elemental. kaiju fights ensued while we tried to steal our target. 

 

 

In our group, someone summoned a dragon far beyond his ability to control... in his apartment. And ended up getting KO'd for days.

 

Somehow our planning sessions always turn out far more dangerous than the actual missions.


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#26 Copper Bezel

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:48 PM

Not one of the great dragons, of course, just a little spirit thing that was way over our level. Not that it really mattered what anyone else's level was, he did it alone and no one knew anything about it until he woke up and told us. 

 

The team also left me to sleep through one of the runs entirely once. It was nice. Cozy. I pretended to have been there and got paid anyway. 

 

Meanwhile the other, somewhat more efficient campaign group is seducing great dragons and pissing off Lofwyr himself.

 

But yeah it's a valid point that there really is a much higher threat of mortality so far outside of actual runs. Maybe we should like, break into a random Aztech warehouse and do our planning from there next time. So it's safer.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#27 Princess Viola

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:57 PM

what the hug does any of this shit have to do with transformers


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#28 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:58 PM

It transforms DMs into a quivering pile of terror and rage at just how far players will go to avoid doing what they're actually supposed to be doing. That counts!

#29 Copper Bezel

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 01:00 PM

Nothing! 

 

You win a goat!

 

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Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#30 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 01:01 PM

How much HP does it have? Asking for a friend.

#31 Copper Bezel

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 01:11 PM

I named my Lynx drone HB for Howlback. That was kind of a Transformers connection. 

 

Someone wanted to name the truck a Transformers name early on but I shot that down. 

 

So Siege Optimus is pretty dope, yeah?


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 01:14 PM

Shadowrun seems like one of the more interesting subjects I haven't delved too deeply into. From what little I've seen and heard of there's a strong sense of identity in how the world works, whether that's despite or because of its derivativeness.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 02:28 PM

Shadowrun seems like one of the more interesting subjects I haven't delved too deeply into. From what little I've seen and heard of there's a strong sense of identity in how the world works, whether that's despite or because of its derivativeness.

Personally I prefer the way Shin Megami Tensei does it because it brings in stuff from all ancient myths and legends instead of being weirdly focused on a 20th century fantasy novel. Too bad there isn't a TTRPG based on it.


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#34 Copper Bezel

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 02:49 PM

Yeah, I'm in it for the Gibson and not the Tolkien myself. My character is a rigger (drone operator) and my backup character is a decker (hacker). Magic is a thing that happens around sometimes that neither character has much interest or any real knowledge in. And since it's a furry group and 70% of us are surge mutants, a lot of the human-elf-orc stuff is relatively low key, because those are just different sizes and demeanors that normal acceptable people come in and we're largely not.
Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#35 Logicron

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 02:54 PM

Like, I'm fine with mixing fantasy and cyberpunk, I just find it weird how most of Shadowrun's fantasy elements are based on LOTR specifically.



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 02:58 PM

They're not really. Shadowrun's stock fantasy races are mainly mutated humans and descendants of humans unlike Tolkien's (and probably the more conventional) idea of separate origins.

Even with things like the immortal elves, I'm not sure if there's much of anything that's more "specifically LOTR" than most fantasy that started at about the same time period as Shadowrun.

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#37 Copper Bezel

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 03:00 PM

But as for ending up with a similar selection, I have to assume it's just the fact that D&D uses a lot of Tolkien-associated parts and Shadowrun was marketing to D&D players, since at one time all tabletop players were D&D players, so it used bits they were familiar with.

 

This really is consuming the TF thread, think I'm going to split.


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 03:21 PM

Kinda wish i could join this crazy world.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 03:27 PM

To me, the thing that makes a fantasy setting feel like it's drawing on the Tolkien-influenced pool isn't so much any one element as it is the way they come as a set. If there are orcs, there are probably snooty elves and likely some halflings somewhere around. But I also have to recognize that the way Western fantasy got aligned around Tolkien expectations isn't really any different from how space sci-fi has tended to borrow the backbone of the world of Star Trek as its starting point to build from, this similar suite of devices and commonplaces. It nonetheless always bugs me a little. I get that there's a benefit to having a shared set of expectations about the world we can jump past to get into the good stuff, but it means that Western-oriented magical worlds have a tendency to all have a very similar flavor.

 

If I was going to introduce magic into a cyberpunk setting myself, I don't think that's how I'd want to go about it. And I really get the sense it was more than anything an effort to offer new players some of the trappings they were familiar with from D&D specifically. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#40 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 03:29 PM

I miss tabletop gaming.




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