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@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

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#1 Noideaforaname

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 07:10 PM

[last updated 8/4/20]

An attempt to organize those funky little badges on the War for Cybertron packaging. Most of the info comes from the Siege website and Hasbro Pulse's article.
 
This is how they work:
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And these are the known variants:
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* some sources use use the Autobot terminology for the Decepticons
* Decepticon Medical badge comes from a beta/variant design and is incompatible with the final version
* Intelligence and Recon units come from concept art that lists eight different units
 
D539wZ0.png  Quintessons don't have rank badges, but they do have their own faction insignia
 
JNrZjaS.pngMercenaries are technically a faction, but it's members are effectively just Decepticon
 
 
And here is what everyone's badges translate to:
 
SIEGE
Autobots
Firedrive == Ground Artillery Private
Lionizer == Ground Artillery Private
Pteraxadon == Air Artillery Private
Smashdown == Ground Artillery Private
Rung Ground == Artillery Private
Dazzlestrike == Ground Artillery Private
Trenchfoot == Ground Artillery Private
 
Roadhandler/Swindler == Ground ??? Private
Topshot/Flak == Ground Artillery Private
Red Heat/Stakeout == Ground Infantry Private
Powertrain/Highjump == Ground Special Ops Private
Road-Police/Wheel Blaze == Ground Infantry Private
Ground Shaker/Overair == Air Infantry Private
Ricon/Irontread == Ground Transport Private
 
Sideswipe == Ground Infantry Private
Cog == Ground Artillery Sergeant
Hound == Ground Infantry Sergeant
Chromia == Ground Special Ops Sergeant
Ironhide == Ground Infantry Captain
Sixgun == Ground Infantry Sergeant
Prowl == Ground Infantry Major
Red Alert == Ground Medical Private
Impactor == Ground Special Ops Captain
Mirage == Ground Special Ops Sergeant
Holo Mirage == Ground Special Ops Sergeant
Crosshairs == Ground Artillery Private
Greenlight == Ground Special Ops Private
Covert Clone Sideswipe == Ground Special Ops Private
Slamdance == Ground ??? Sergeant
Aragon == Ground Infantry Private
Ratchet == Ground Engineering Private
Bluestreak == Ground Artillery Private
 
Optimus Prime == Ground Infantry General
"Classic Animation" Optimus Prime == Ground Infantry General
Springer == Air Special Ops Sergeant
Nemesis Prime == Ground Infantry General (Nemesis is a Decepticon, but his packaging is just Optimus' with the name swapped out)
 
Ultra Magnus == Ground Infantry Major
Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime == Space Infantry General
Jetfire == Air Engineering Captain
 
Omega Supreme == Space Transport Captain
Countdown == N/A
 
 
Decepticons
Blowpipe == Air Weapons Raider
Aimless == Air Weapons Raider
Caliburst == Air Weapons Raider
Singe == Air Weapons Raider
Shrute == Air Espionage Raider
Fracas == Air Weapons Raider
Terror-Daxtyl == Air Espionage Raider
 
Storm Cloud/Visper == Air Infantry Raider
Laserbeak == Air Espionage Raider
Ravage == Ground Espionage Raider
Blackjack/Hyperdrive == Ground Infantry Raider
Rumble == Ground Espionage Raider
Ratbat == Air Espionage Raider
Direct-Hit/Power Punch == Ground Weapons Raider
Nightflight == Air Infantry Raider
Slyhopper == Air Black Ops Raider
Cratermaker/Fireline == Ground Weapons Raider
 
Skytread == Ground Black Ops Raider
Refraktor == Ground Espionage Raider
Brunt == Ground Weapons Raider
Barricade == Ground Infantry Sergeant
Spinister == Air Infantry Raider
Deception Impactor == Ground Infantry Sergeant
Spectro/Spyglass/Viewfinder == Ground Espionage Raider
Kremzeek == N/A
 
Megatron == Ground Infantry General
"Classic Animation" Megatron == Ground Infantry General
Starscream == Air Infantry Captain
Soundwave == Ground Espionage Major
Thundercracker == Air Infantry Sergeant
Apeface == Ground Espionage Private
Acid Storm == Air Infantry Raider
Ion Storm == Air Infantry Raider
Nova Storm == Air Infantry Raider
Skywarp == Air Black Ops Sergeant
Soundblaster == Ground Weapons Sergeant
 
Shockwave == Space Applied Sciences Major
Astrotrain == Space Transport Captain
 
 
Selects (Siege)
Autobots
Cromar == N/A
Zetar == N/A
Lancer == N/A
Smokescreen == N/A
Hot Shot == N/A
 
Decepticons
Combat Megatron == Ground Infantry General
Galactic Man Shockwave == Space Applied Sciences Major
Nightbird == N/A
Red Wing == N/A
 
 
Netflix
Autobots
Captive Lionizer == Ground Artillery Private
Captive Pinpointer == Ground Artillery Private
Deception Mirage == Ground Special Ops Sergeant  (yep, it's an Autobot Badge)
Chromia == Ground Special Ops Sergeant
Hound == Ground Infantry Sergeant
Sideswipe == Ground Infantry Private
Ultra Magnus == Ground Infantry Major
Rung == 
N/A

Bumblebee

Wheeljack

Red Alert

Elita 1

Impactor

Optimus Prime/Enerax/Shelldron

 

Decepticons
Scrapface == Ground Infantry Raider
Hotlink == Air Applied Sciences Raider (Ground Infantry General in the instructions, which is presumably an error)
Heatstroke == Air Weapons Raider
Heartburn == Air Weapons Raider
Megatron == Ground Infantry General
Soundwave/Ravage/Laserbeak

 

[Mystery Leader+]

Spoiler

 

 

EARTHRISE
Autobots
Soundbarrier == Air Engineering Private
Smashdown == Air Artillery Private (transferred from Ground to Air Command apparently)
Rung == Ground Artillery Private
 
Trip-Up/Daddy-O == Ground Infantry Private
Blast Master/Fuzer == Space Special Ops Private
 
Hoist == Ground Medical Private
Wheeljack == Ground Engineering Sergeant
Cliffjumper == Ground Infantry Private
Ironworks == Space Engineering Captain
Arcee == Ground Special Ops Sergeant
Smokescreen == Ground Special Ops Sergeant
Trailbreaker
Sunstreaker

Ironhide == Ground Infantry Captain
Prowl == Ground Infantry Major
 
Grapple == Ground Engineering Captain
Optimus == Ground Infantry General

"Alternate Universe"/Dead Optimus
 
Sky Lynx == N/A
 
 
Decepticons
Doublecrosser == Ground Applied Sciences Raider
 
Bombshock/Growl == Air Weapons Raider
Ground Hog/Roller Force == Ground ??? Raider
Direct-Hit/Power Punch == Ground Weapons Raider
 
Airwave == Air Black Ops Sergeant
Fasttrack
Runamuck

Pounce == Ground Espionage Sergeant

Wingspan == Air Applied Sciences Raider
 
Starscream == Air Infantry Captain (didn't climb any rank since Siege)
Snapdragon == Space Infantry Sergeant
Megatron == Ground Infantry General
Skywarp == Air Black Ops Sergeant
Thundercracker == Air Infantry Sergeant

Ramjet/Dirge == Air Infantry Sergeant

 
Astrotrain == Space Transport Captain

Doubledealer == Air Infantry Sergeant
 
Scorponok/Lord Zarak == N/A (Megatron literally blasted the rank badge off the packaging)
 
 
Quintessons
Slitherfang == N/A
Allicon == N/A
Judge == N/A
 
Mercenaries
Doubledealer

Snapdragon

(Doubledealer and Snapdragon were presented as Mercenaries at Toy Fair, but are treated as a Decepticon everywhere else)

 
Selects (Earthrise)
Autobots
Hubcap

Tigertrack

Rotorstorm

Decepticons
Wingthing/Frenzy == N/A
Skar/Knok == N/A (Knok is a Decepticon, going by the instructions)

Greasepit == N/A

Centurion Drone == N/A

 

Mercenaries

Exhaust == N/A ( "Decepticon Exhaust" wears a Mercenary insignia and lacks any kind of rank badge)
 

 

2020

Quintesson Pit of Judgement == N/A

 

2021
Unicron

 

 

 

Rumors/Leaks

Bluestreak

Hothouse

Thrust

Cyclonus

G2 Megs

Bugbite

Roritchi

 

Netflix:

Deep Cover

Cheetor

Barricade

Deluxe Quintesson

 

 
 
*NOTE: there are some discrepancies between different sources, I'm assuming packaging is the correct one*
*ALSO NOTE: the card game uses these too, but somoene else is gonna have to cover that one...*
 
And just for giggles, the old charts from before this post got updated:

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 11:27 PM

The Rescue Patrol are Infantry Privates in Ground Command.


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Posted 20 February 2019 - 12:42 AM

Shockwave's Major Space engineer .. looks like Vector prime's Cyber key 

 

>_> I see what you did there Hasbro


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Posted 20 February 2019 - 07:15 AM

Hypothesis: Soundwave and co. are something like 'Recon', and the Race Car Patrol's unique symbol is the Autobot equivalent.

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:59 AM

I'd guess "Espionage" for Soundwave and Ravage just because of who they are.


-ZacWilliam, Honestly if I was designing the army I'd make an Operations segment of which Communications, Recon and Espionage were separate related sub-divisions probably but...

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 11:50 AM

Would be cool if someone PNG them so we could combine them and make our own badges


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Posted 20 February 2019 - 12:03 PM

Copy-pasting for whenever I update this again:

 

Also, Red Heat and Stakeout seem to be Infantry Privates.

 

 

And since this is semi-related:

 

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So having figured this badge nonsense out, I have some thoughts about this:
- top is Optimus
- below him is probably Stepper
- next to that, with the sword and fancy lines, is Megatron
- sword with jet wings is likely Redwing (Screamer has Sword+Wings but higher rank)
- then it's Swoop, with the little jet wing and Spec Op clawmarks (which sorta seems to means "combiner", though by this logic Stepper should have the same)
- bottom is, er, some flying Decepticon? Possibly with a Weaponizer gimmick (Sixgun repaint? Although Sixgun himself isn't "Artillery")


Cybertronian writting is OBEY, FREEDOM, and... VOLT?

 

 

EDIT:
I dunno how useful these will be, but:

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 02:07 PM

Aw there no good I throw them into paint or anything I just get blobs of color


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 09:11 AM

>Sergeant Hound

>General Oprimus Prime

>Selects Combat Hero Megatron

 

Gee Siege, how come Hasbro lets you have all this unreleased G2 stuff?


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Posted 21 February 2019 - 09:42 AM

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Even more badges hiding in that Selects box. Another mid-rank Infantry bot, and someone who apparently likes snow... or is a Chaos Worshiper.


Aw there no good I throw them into paint or anything I just get blobs of color

Sorry about that. I'll admit they weren't super clean to begin with, though it looks like Imgur made it even worse when clicking that Save Image link...

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 09:45 AM

wow, i wondered what those were



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 10:00 AM

okay i think i've found that new badge elsewhere on the internet

 

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:55 AM

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Stakeout and Red Heat are a coupla Ground Privates.  



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Posted 14 March 2019 - 09:38 PM

STARSCREAM GOT DEMOTED!!
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Or rather, I'm now noticing his rank symbol is less complex than Soundwave and Shockwave's. Presumably Screamer's the equivalent rank as Ironhide.

EDIT: SS and IH are both ranked Captain
Star's Division is indeed Air Force
Soundwave's Unit is Espionage
 

EDIT 2: First post updated

 

 

 
Also, let me try retry doing PNGs for some of these things since the official site's got decent pics up.
 
Decepticons:

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Autobots:
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Edited by Noideaforaname, 15 March 2019 - 05:06 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2019 - 08:27 AM

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https://www.seibertr...ode-look/43130/

Still more badges hidden in the flaps of that Selects box:
- our first look at a Decepticon "sergeant" (possible seeker)
- a second 'Con General -- presumably another Megatron, who may or may not be in a different division
- another Autobot Infantry/Ground Command Private

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 09:42 AM

I've been saving all my card backs from my Siege figures to have the different symbols.  I'd love to work them into my new display somehow. 



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Posted 05 April 2019 - 11:03 PM

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

 

...er I mean, I guess that symbol means, er, "Security" or something?

 

 

(also, Reflector is in the Espionage Unit and Brunt is "Maybe Artillery")


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Posted 25 May 2019 - 11:14 AM

First post is up to date with Wave 3.



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Posted 25 May 2019 - 11:48 AM

I don't know if you've been paying attention to TCG stuff, but Wave 3 is a Siege tie-in and every character has a rank appended to their name. Maybe that can help with this stuff?

Red Alert's card says he's a medic rather than Security Chief and that top part of his symbol kinda looks like the Star of Life, so maybe that's supposed to be a medical thing?

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 01:29 PM

I'm completely out of the loop on the card game. Maybe I should look into it since Red Alert is indeed in the Medical Unit:

 

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And confirmation on some of the other group names, too. A bit of an error with Galaxy Upgrade Prime, though; his badge here has the Special Ops top even though the bio and actual toy packaging says otherwise.





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