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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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#301 Vexwing

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 03:00 AM

FFS the voice actor for Spinister read his name check in as "Spinster"!

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 03:27 AM

Oh yeah todays the day.

 

 

Well better wait for the general cenus to be formed before I consider watching it.


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Posted 30 July 2020 - 03:56 AM

It's quite enjoyable so far (three eps in), but there's a real sense that everything was very rushed in production for a series that's quite late. Characters show up out of nowhere, probably because that's when the model was done (

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). The cast for the first few episodes is... very thin.

 

It's much better than the last few series, but the animation is definitely pretty stilted and effects have been layered heavily on top of some fairly clunky underlying work to make it look better.

 

I haven't found it to be as full of references as might have been expected from some of the reviews. Sure, there's the odd bit, but they actually fit in context rather than being a series of quotes from the original film...



#304 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 04:15 AM

So, what kind of commitment needs to be made to watch these? You know, episode count, length, etc.?

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 04:22 AM

So, what kind of commitment needs to be made to watch these? You know, episode count, length, etc.?

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 

Six episodes of about 25 minutes or so in length.  Took me about 2 hours and 15 minutes or so.

 

It was okay.  It didn't hate it, but I didn't love it either.  A marked improvement over the previous series from this studio, which is admittedly a low bar.  The art looks good in still frames, but the animation is stilted in some places.  Also, everyone has a weird sashay when they walk, where their torsos all animate like they were flexible instead of being metal. Story is..  basic and some aspects are not well developed. By far the worst aspect is the script, which is cringeworthy in some places, and the VO has some issues.  (I'm guessing it was more of a direction issue)


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#306 The Phazer

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 05:05 AM

Prowl's VO is hilariously miscast.



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Posted 30 July 2020 - 05:08 AM

Episodes are up. Just checked out the first one.
 
It's... well, it's what I expected. It's watchable, but it's flawed. 

 

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For what it's worth, it makes some characters and their motivations very clear, and you can see where they're going with them while still being interested in how. It's just... drier than I was hoping for (and I am so weary of that tone), but it's early going yet.


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#308 Unit Eleven

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 05:29 AM

So according to spoilers I've seen...

 

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 05:48 AM

So according to spoilers I've seen...

 

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#310 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 05:50 AM

Saw the first ep. Story is just so grim, grim. War, hurt, serious, we mean business. I'll watch the second ep later; it's just a bit slow and ponderous. I do like the cliffhanger, even if the shoulders gave it away.

I'm ok with this new Bee and his new role. I like the re twist on the traitor. Prime and Megatron are same old, same old. Was that a fatality? Why is he the medic?

Models look good but I have to get used to the lips. Yes, they have this walk with the hips. I thought she was the only one but, no, Bee does it too. Magnus has a vehicle butt, haha. I hope we see female Decepticons.
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#311 The Phazer

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 06:06 AM

Yeah, overall it was about what was expected. It's certainly less plodding and comes to a conclusion better than the Prime Wars shows, but it's just okay. You feel the lack of budget in the animation a lot.

 

VOs range from half decent to terrible. They could have done more to distinguish some of the voices too, Soundwave has a vocal flange but Shockwave could have done with something to distinguish him. Megatron's is decent enough and menacing, though with weak direction at times. Prime's is fairly weak. Neither add much subtlety.

 

Characters appearing from nowhere as they finish animating the models keeps happening until the end, pretty much.

 

Overall, the plot does feel still more like it's G1 character designs glued on to a somewhat Bayverse like prequel tale. At least

Spoiler

 

If you're interested in how the "spoiler" Magnus relates (thinly) I'd speculate that -

 

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The dream of something as good as Voltron continues.



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Posted 30 July 2020 - 07:04 AM

Started off interesting but got boring.

I wish there was a better arc for Impactor. Jetfire also seem unsuited for his role.

I know Transformers is about rehashing characters as different interpretations, but when you do something that's g2 but not g1, and have Jetfire not as a scientist, but a warrior who goes on about honor.

Autobots seemed really incompetent in this.

I'm almost done but havent finished yet

And Ironhides is terrible...some of these vas sound like college kids

Edit: Finished it. This was a good try but wasnt good enough to be worth it.

I know shows are advertisements for the toys, but the games story was better. No reason to do this over if it wasnt going to be better than that

These characters even had Earth alt modes!

Optimus was bad. This show made me miss Primes fight choreography.

I'm tired of G1.

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 07:26 AM

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 08:41 AM

Four episodes in, and I can't put it down. I think they nailed it. This show moves.

 

I like that Bumblebee and Wheeljack are the first real characters you engage with. Nice callback to G1's cartoon. I also like seeing longtime characters approached in different ways (both Red Alert and Ratchet, for example).

 

The voice of Optimus is just close enough to Mr. Cullen that--for me--it works. Starscream and Megatron's voice actors are solid as well.

 

I'm cautiously optimistic for the remaining episodes. I had very, very low expectations, and I'm pleased to find this show got me.



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Posted 30 July 2020 - 08:46 AM

Three episodes in, and it’s fine so far. A few nice snippets here and there, nothing to really write home about. The Allspark is stupid and clashes with all the serious-faced war/revolution talk, as we all knew it would.
 

My biggest complaint, oddly enough, is the lack of transformations. I read about it in a review before seeing the show, thought it was an odd thing to focus on, but goddamn if I can’t stop focusing on it myself. I’m screaming inside my head: “Why are you walking and running so much???”


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Posted 30 July 2020 - 09:15 AM

Just watched the first episode, and so far I'd say it's actually pretty good. It's definitely "dark", and despite that often being a synonym for boring and amateurish in this franchise I'd say that the more series tone is actually handled pretty well in this case. It's certainly leaps and bounds better than the awful Prime Wars cartoon.

 

I hope the other episode maintain the quality. 



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Posted 30 July 2020 - 09:30 AM

3 episodes in. I'm enjoying it. It's not the best series. But it's a good step in the right direction. Hopefully they can build off it when we get to space travel shenanigans in Earthrise.

I honestly like that Transformers exists where we can have different tonally different shows. We can have something fun and silly like Cyberverse, then something on the opposite end of things like this.

Finishing the show after work tonight.

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:21 AM

Done with ep3. Ep3 was actually really good!

Ep2 was weak (I mean, really, the decoy?). But at least we got to see
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Btw, does Elita-1 have an upcoming toy?)

Ep3 was where the good stuff happened. Mirage! Reflector! GoblinThespian! Honor! The thing that was obviously going to happen! It's more serious stuff but the story is moving faster, whew.

BTW, who's the Seeker that elita shot down? Brown and yellow?

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 10:49 AM

I like that they gave Jetfire a ridiculously evil voice.



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Posted 30 July 2020 - 11:21 AM

Yikes those shirts are terrible. "Let's just print JPEGs of the box art." Wish they would've made shirts out of the nice white/black/red Netflix promo posters (that wasn't just "let's print the poster.").

 

Btw, does Elita-1 have an upcoming toy?)
 

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