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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 12:04 PM

So, can Elsa control her powers now?

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 12:48 PM

So, can Elsa control her powers now?

 

She could by the end of the first movie.

 

Or really, by the time of "Let it Go", although was still susceptible to a few emotion-based misfires.


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Posted 15 February 2019 - 07:01 PM

So, can Elsa control her powers now?

 

Yes, part from when she's got a cold, as shown in Frozen Fever, exactly how well she can control them, is another matter but enough to create a snow cloud for Olaf and reverse the endless winter she created, thou I think that only lasted, what two or three days, I'm not sure how much time elapsed during the film.


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Posted 16 February 2019 - 07:48 AM

My question remains: where exactly do they go with the story?
 
Both Anna & Elsa's arcs were pretty much wrapped up at the end of the film; I'm not sure what the next step should be.

 
 

 

What Elsa's doing sure looks a lot like superhero training. . .

 
I thought it was her attempts to be Moana.
 

My question remains: where exactly do they go with the story?

Both Anna & Elsa's arcs were pretty much wrapped up at the end of the film; I'm not sure what the next step should be.


Frozen 2: The quest for more money.
 
 
 

Looks neat, but short of being extremely successful I'm not sure why it exists.
 
Also I don't think this was Frozen, because they weren't singing every second of this trailer (the first had a bit too much singing for me).

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Wow, that land looks a lot like North America...about the time of...Pocahontas
That would tie the nature of the magic together...

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 11:19 PM

Well, as vague as this trailer is, since there wasn't a sequel to the Snow Queen, this movie will force the writers to try to create something completely original this time. I'm game for it.


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Posted 18 February 2019 - 12:02 PM

 

"Anyway," the lady says, wiping away her tears. "Your sheet cakes, are they made fresh in-house?"

"Uh, I'm not sure you're going to like the answer to this..."

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That was so funny


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:39 AM


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:55 AM

Interesting. Honestly I was hoping for a little bit more of a peak at what is going on, but it at least gives a hint to the story.

-ZacWilliam, I wonder how much of a musical this one will be. I assume it will because that was a big factor in the success of the first one, but no hints at that facet yet...

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:05 AM

Cool. We get a little bit of the story out of that.Just enough to make us interest without giving away the entire film.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 02:24 PM

Shouldn't Oaf melt when he hits the water in that trailer, after all, he is a snowman, or is there something else about Elsa's magic?

 

One thing for certain, the princess and the queen are going north, I wonder if they'll find a Yeti?


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 06:47 PM

Shouldn't Oaf melt when he hits the water in that trailer, after all, he is a snowman, or is there something else about Elsa's magic?

 

One thing for certain, the princess and the queen are going north, I wonder if they'll find a Yeti?

 

Elsa granted Olaf an enchantment at the end of the first movie to guard him from the effects of the summer sun.  I'd say she can manage to do the same for water.



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 10:38 AM

I hope its a quest where they discover they aren't sisters because one of them is adopted and then they can resolve all that tension twitter seems to think they have.

 

XD ... I might follow too many shippers 



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:20 PM

I hope its a quest where they discover they aren't sisters because one of them is adopted and then they can resolve all that tension twitter seems to think they have.

 

XD ... I might follow too many shippers 

 

Maybe...



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:46 PM

I've never seen the movie myself.. only clips here and there - but it seems to be a thing so who knows? 



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Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:50 PM

I've never seen the movie myself.. 

 

Go watch it, then. It's great.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 03:33 PM

 

I've never seen the movie myself.. 

 

Go watch it, then. It's great.

 

 

Agreed, I watched it for the first time with my 3yo last week. It builds up traditional fairy tropes and tears them down really well.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:01 PM

I've never seen the movie myself.. only clips here and there - but it seems to be a thing so who knows? 

 

Its worth the watch, at least for the songs, buts its not the best story Disney has produced, not the worse either, the late plot twist in regards to who is the real villian, isn't that great a twist but these movies got to have a villian of sorts. The best things about Frozen is:

1. The CGI art, its clear there is a lot of work going into that.

2. The songs, after "Let it go", my personal fav is "Do you want to build a snowman? (there is a lot of heart in that song)"


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:20 PM


I'd say the villain twist is one of the best parts, especially how it recontextualizes an earlier song. I'd say the one slight flaw is that the awesome songs completely disappear in the third act.

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:22 PM

I dunno, other than some hints in that earlier song, the twist kinda doesn't make sense with a lot of the guy's scenes, especially the part of the first one when he's by himself and gives a look on his face that comes across as sincere both internally and externally. As well as in certain other scenes where he's genuinely considerate, benevolent, and honorable to those around him. It's only when the twist occurs that it tries to make us think otherwise, but it just doesn't work with everything presented in the movie presented beforehand.

 

Film Theory once did a video that further explained why the twist doesn't work and tried to figure out what could have led to such a nonsensical twist, like if there was some greater force behind it. Of course, by now we can probably say that this theory won't be a part of this sequel film, but it's still an interesting idea to think about:

 


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:57 PM

I personally feel that there a couple too many songs.

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