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@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (26 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm Making The TF Roll Out Short "Gotta Go Fast!"

@  Benbot : (26 November 2019 - 12:52 PM)

That's what I was hoping for. But here I am, at work the following day.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

You say "die in bed" and I'm thinking "why is that a problem?".

@  fourteenwings : (26 November 2019 - 07:06 AM)

If you don't get out of bed ever your muscles will lock in super-uncomfortable ways and you may get blood clots

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:53 PM)

You did nothing, and so rocks fall down and you die.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 08:35 PM)

But that's not you doing something, that's something being done to you.

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:28 PM)

Unless a meteor crashes down on your bed while you're in it.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 07:08 PM)

I've been trying for the last few hours to find an argument to counter this... and I can't do it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 03:32 PM)

The most dangerous thing you can do is get out of bed in the morning. Everything else that happens is a consequence of that one terrible, terrible decision.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Driving, by itself, is dangerous. Anything done to compromise the concentration of the pilot just makes things worse.

@  Benbot : (25 November 2019 - 12:46 PM)

Actually, I think you could make a reasonable argument for saying driving with glasses is dangerous. That is, more dangerous than driving with contacts or perfect vision. You have poor peripheral vision with glasses.


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:03 PM

I still prefer the "Return of Jafar"/TV series version best.


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Posted 25 May 2019 - 09:53 AM

Saw it today. Very okay-ish.

 

While it's great that genie was reimagined to make Will Smith a better fit, I don't think he was a very good pick for the role. Mainly because his singing just isn't all that good. While he can hold a tune, it's very middle of the roadl. His acting is good, if a bit of the typecast Will Smith role. Aladdin's actor was pretty much perfect and really sells the part. Jasmine was good. Jafar strikes me as horribly rewritten and not particularly well cast. While I am glad to see that he wasn't made into another Drumpf pastiche (nothing about borders, thank god), he's even more overtly saturday-morning-cartoon-villain evil to the point I don't see why they keep him around but at the same time, lacking the greasy charisma to not get sacked. He's a little too softspoken for pretty much all his scenes which is a shame since I wanted to see more of his "KHAN" scream in the desert. I know pork is haram but you really need to ham it up a little, man. Jasmine's handmaid seemed superfluous overall. I figured she was written in because otherwise, Jasmine would spend a good chunk of time talking to a CGI tiger but I dunno, after watching, it really seems she was shoehorned in to give Will a love interest. Her performance was good though. I can't believe that Iago necessitated a big-name voice actor.

 

Speaking of CGI, the movie's is okay. Blue Will Smith is still very uncanny valley and there were some instances of PS3-level jank but it was adequate. I find myself wondering if I would find Genie more or less disturbing if they didn't give him nipples. Abu is iffy overall, with a few really nicely animated scenes and about an equal number that really really cause the CG to stick out. The cave of Wonders is a laughably static piece of second-rate theme park scenery. 

 

Music is great. the score hits all the right notes. The songs are kind of a mixed bag. All of Aladdin's are wonderful. Jasmine's new song strikes me as a watered-down Let It Go and seems tacked on, especially the second time it pops up. Will Smith's songs are okay, delivered competently and the guy can hold a tune pretty well but I feel like something's missing. It's pretty much impossible to do cartoon Genie in this medium but they seem positively anemic compared to the originals. Think the tempo could stand to be a tad faster. They're all far above Beauty and the Beast's autotuned nightmares though. 

 

Story is what you'd expect with an extra completely unneeded chase scene. If there's a part of this film that best exemplifies it, it's the A Whole New World scene. It's smaller scale, less visually appealing and competently done, but doesn't do enough to escape the shadow of the original. I don't regret seeing it but I won't be picking this over the original if I'm hankering for Aladdin.


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Posted 25 May 2019 - 01:44 PM

See I'm exactly the opposite on Aladdin. I mean overall he was ok but in the same way that Emma Watson was for Belle in Beauty and the Beast. He looks the part well enough and for the most part acts it well enough but once he's Princed up he seems a tad too worried. I mean he was worried about biffing things in the original animation but making him Armada pack in comic Hot Shot for a minute stretches things a tad too much for me. And the guy always felt like he was either missing song cues or just not giving the music his all. The start of a Whole New World felt so wooden until Naomi came in to start Jasmines part.

 

For Will, I think he did great as Genie. He'll never surpass Robin but they gave him more of his own personality here than trying to ape the original performance completely. And him and the Handmaiden were quite adorkable together.

 

I felt Naomi's Jasmine was the High point of the film really. I'll admit Speechless didn't hit me too well. It's great to see Jasmine voice her frustrations but I just don't feel it meshes well with the original mix of songs. My only real complaint is the lack of screen time for the classic Blue outfit. I really didn't feel the magenta overtly flashy outfit at all.

 

Jafar and the Sultan I'm glad were toned down. While I do think it benefits Jafar to be less of a Cackiling madman near the end of the film, it's sad to see less personality from the Sultan. But neither interpretation would have translated directly well to live action. But Jafar certainly seems to be focused on expansion of the kingdom more here.

 

But probably the downside of the move to live action is how it's harder to give personality to the animals. Abu was pretty good over all, and Iago you could tell had a decent mind of his own but isn't capable of more than a few words at a time.   Rajah didn't get much to do this time other than giving Ali a good wet lick. But all three are actual animals this time so you don't get the cartoon squash and stretch that benefits their personalities in the animation. And Carpet is toned down quite a bit. He still gets a few good shots but over all he's not utilized much. Especially during the Whole New World sequence.

 

I won't have a problem with it existing but there's no doubt it won't supplant the original cartoon.

 

Though if they want to do a Return of Jafar sequel I demand they get Jason Alexander to come back as Abis Mal!


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Posted 25 May 2019 - 01:54 PM

Though if they want to do a Return of Jafar sequel I demand they get Jason Alexander to come back as Abis Mal!

 

Yes, yes, a million times YES!!


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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 05:49 AM

Saw it.

Jafar needed to be more charismatic, darn it! And the magic he displayed should have been phenomenal! Darn it, One Jump was so slow compared to what I imagined it could have been in a Guy Ritchie movie.

Two references I don't get. I don't get why the 'faraway prince' example that Genie made in the trailer is funny. (I thought perhaps he was faraway cuz he was suppose to be The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air).

And who was the archer Jaaaaaasmine near the end being referenced to?

(The Will Smith genie's humor isn't pop culture references but those parts looked like they were)

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:02 AM

I just saw Independence Day again last night. Can't help but laugh now that his girlfriends name is Jasmine and therecwas a whole part where she teased him about thinking he's Aladdin.
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 05:08 PM

Saw it.

Jafar needed to be more charismatic, darn it! And the magic he displayed should have been phenomenal! Darn it, One Jump was so slow compared to what I imagined it could have been in a Guy Ritchie movie.

Two references I don't get. I don't get why the 'faraway prince' example that Genie made in the trailer is funny. (I thought perhaps he was faraway cuz he was suppose to be The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air).

And who was the archer Jaaaaaasmine near the end being referenced to?

(The Will Smith genie's humor isn't pop culture references but those parts looked like they were)

He "made him a prince". As in he a made a prince for him. Its a semantics gag.

I found Jafar not manacing at all except for the one scene where he steals from Aladdin in the marketplace. His whole shtick felt like he was this pathetic man that was stomping his foot demanding to be respected. Not unlike Aladdin as Ali I realize now that Im typing it out. But still, I didn't feel threatened by him at all.

Jasmine was far and away the best thing about this movie. Genie wasn't as bad as trailers made him seem. His spat with Al felt less contrived in this version. Glad to see Iago got alot of screentime.

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:49 PM

What the [i]heck[/] was the 'made prince' yelling anyhow? "Hey y'all seen my-" what?
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:33 PM

What the [i]heck[/] was the 'made prince' yelling anyhow? "Hey y'all seen my-" what?

 
"Palace."

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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:46 PM

Saw it.

Jafar needed to be more charismatic, darn it! And the magic he displayed should have been phenomenal! Darn it, One Jump was so slow compared to what I imagined it could have been in a Guy Ritchie movie.

Two references I don't get. I don't get why the 'faraway prince' example that Genie made in the trailer is funny. (I thought perhaps he was faraway cuz he was suppose to be The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air).

And who was the archer Jaaaaaasmine near the end being referenced to?

(The Will Smith genie's humor isn't pop culture references but those parts looked like they were)

He "made him a prince". As in he a made a prince for him. Its a semantics gag.

I found Jafar not manacing at all except for the one scene where he steals from Aladdin in the marketplace. His whole shtick felt like he was this pathetic man that was stomping his foot demanding to be respected. Not unlike Aladdin as Ali I realize now that Im typing it out. But still, I didn't feel threatened by him at all.

Jasmine was far and away the best thing about this movie. Genie wasn't as bad as trailers made him seem. His spat with Al felt less contrived in this version. Glad to see Iago got alot of screentime.

Made another prince, ok, I get it now. Not very funny since I think the original joke of that type was 'make me a sandwich' and you become a sandwich.

Yes, that scene with the drapes of clothes. Really could have used more dramatic scenes like that.

I think the reason this Jafar wasn't as charismatic or personable is because his Iago wasn't a conversationalist. The first movie had them bouncing back and forth with their dialogue but this Iago didn't have much of a personality so new Jafar was blander, which was a shame.

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Posted 28 May 2019 - 08:06 AM

So this had a pretty big opening weekend, It definitely looks like it will do better than Dumbo did.


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Posted 31 May 2019 - 10:52 PM

I went in with very low expectations after everything I'd heard, but I loved it. I don't know what you could add that would make it a better live action Aladdin adaptation, other than obviously Robin Williams perhaps. I think it was definitely a greater success than Beauty and the Beast, though I may be holding that to higher standards as I care about it more.

None of the songs really wowed me but they were all at least Good Enough. Seems a wasted opportunity that they didn't add more new ones (or borrow from Broadway), but I suspect they weren't really one of Ritchie's priorities. Cutting the Prince Ali reprise was pretty rotten.

Will Smith did a good job with the new stuff they brought in for the Genie, and a decent job with the rest. Massoud and Scott were about as good as you could hope for - way better than I expected. Abu... often did not look great, sure. Brilliant work with Carpet though. Jafar was, yeah, not super Jafary, but got the job done.

There's a lot hanging over the movie, but on the whole I think it was a success, and I could have happily watched hours more. Dead keen to see it again. Colour me shocked.

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 10:00 AM

More impressive magic from Jafar would have made it better for me. We didn't get a giant snake, just a giant birb.

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Posted 01 June 2019 - 09:22 PM

God, I didn't even realise that. We'll never get to know how snake-like he could be!

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Posted 02 June 2019 - 09:36 AM

If they went with a big snake, how would they shoehorn a pointless, dragging chase scene in?


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Posted 03 June 2019 - 03:06 PM

If they went with a big snake, how would they shoehorn a pointless, dragging chase scene in?

Snake fast.


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Posted 03 June 2019 - 05:37 PM

Yeah, I think you can definitely do pointless, dragging chase scenes with a giant monster snake. 


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Posted 03 June 2019 - 06:00 PM

Jafar must have read the Evil Overlord list between movies.

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 02:55 PM

Just got back from seeing it. It's far from perfect, but I think I enjoyed it enough. The few parts where they tried to copy exactly what happened in the original were either not executed as well or not good at all, while most of the new and changed stuff I feel were acceptable. Not all of the changes but most of them.

 

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All in all, this movie's not perfect, but I had fun with it.


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Posted 07 June 2019 - 05:47 PM

I haven't seen it yet, but I have picked up the soundtrack and gave it a spin. The highlight is certainly Naomi Scott, who's really quite talented; and I enjoyed listening to her in A Whole New World. I've only seen her previously in the most recent Power Rangers flick, so I didn't really know what to expect from her. Mena Massoud is a local talent from my part of Canada, so I feel a kind of obligation to not be too hard on him (it's not like I can sing at all, lol). He's much better than I expected, and he kept up with the frenetic pace of One Jump Ahead pretty nicely. Next to Scott in A Whole New World is another matter, but still serviceable. The biggest disappointment on the soundtrack for me was Genie's songs; they just don't come anywhere close to the energy of the originals, and some of the lyrical changes don't really work for me.


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