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@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?


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#61 Superomegaprime

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:01 PM

How about this:

The remake doesn't do enough to convince you that going to see it would be better than just popping the Blue-Ray into the home theater and watching that again in the comfort of your own home.

 

That sounds about like what I'm hearing, which is a completely reasonable way to think.  Why watch the remake if it doesn't do enough better/different to the original?

 

Its kind of for a new generation of kids who never seen the original or heard of it.

 

Something I'm wondering, is with the Arabian Nights song, how will that be handled in terms of lyrics:

 

The uncensored verison of the song:

 


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:02 PM

I think it looks good.

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:07 PM

 

How about this:

The remake doesn't do enough to convince you that going to see it would be better than just popping the Blue-Ray into the home theater and watching that again in the comfort of your own home.

 

That sounds about like what I'm hearing, which is a completely reasonable way to think.  Why watch the remake if it doesn't do enough better/different to the original?

 

Its kind of for a new generation of kids who never seen the original or heard of it.

 

Something I'm wondering, is with the Arabian Nights song, how will that be handled in terms of lyrics:

 

 

 

Well, even for the animated film, the censored version of the song showed up on the VHS release. I don't think the unmodified lyrics ever made it past the theatrical presentations and the original CD soundtrack release (which I own).


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:14 PM

 

How about this:

The remake doesn't do enough to convince you that going to see it would be better than just popping the Blue-Ray into the home theater and watching that again in the comfort of your own home.
 
That sounds about like what I'm hearing, which is a completely reasonable way to think.  Why watch the remake if it doesn't do enough better/different to the original?

 
Its kind of for a new generation of kids who never seen the original or heard of it.
That's fine, but that doesn't make the older generation any more unreasonable for not being interested.

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:43 PM

I question how much modern kids "have never seen or heard of" the Disney Renaissance films. Parents show kids what they themselves liked.

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 11:28 PM

I question how much modern kids "have never seen or heard of" the Disney Renaissance films. Parents show kids what they themselves liked.

 

Not to mention that five of the ten Renaissance films each got their own spinoff cartoon series on TV that all reran for years on both Disney Channel and Toon Disney (before the latter changed into Disney XD), and some of which even still rerun on TV to this day in certain countries.

 

Coupled with several DVD/Blu-Ray rereleases, continued televised re-broadcasts, and plenty of merchandise, the Renaissance films have indeed had no trouble with marketing exposure to newer audiences from after the Renaissance era.


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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 04:20 AM

Welcome to the realization that our generation is a marketing demographic now. These films are specifically catered towards bringing in OUR dollars based on nostalgia.

 

Give it another ten years and we'll be seeing live action Lilo & Stitch and Emperor's New Groove.



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Posted 14 March 2019 - 04:42 AM

Alice's problem is it tried to apply logic to a whimsical world and the script couldn't decide if Alice thought it was a dream or if there were actual stakes.

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:04 AM

Give it another ten years and we'll be seeing live action Lilo & Stitch and Emperor's New Groove.

 

Wasn't there a thread about the announced Lilo & Stitch live action remake?


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:19 AM

actually the most recently announced live-action remake is a Maleficent-style take on "Cruella DeVille," wherein the puppy-killer is actually a tragic misunderstood street rat.

 

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:32 AM

actually the most recently announced live-action remake is a Maleficent-style take on "Cruella DeVille," wherein the puppy-killer is actually a tragic misunderstood street rat.

 

https://comicbook.co...oduction-start/

 

"where we learn the real origins behind Estella's hatred of Dalmatians."

 

Dalmatians killed her family.

 

It's like really, turning Dalmatians into the bad guys some how?


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:36 AM

I want it to be Batmans origin story bit with a dalmation pulling the trigger

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Posted 14 March 2019 - 09:48 AM


That movie script has a HEEELLLLLLL of an uphill battle. I can't imagine anything they could possibly write that would make "woman who wants to slaughter and skin a hundred puppies" sympathetic in any way.

-ZacWilliam, I feel like that's kind of a hard line to cross
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 10:40 AM

Once Upon a Time's backstory for Cruella (as weird as it was) at least knew to lean in to her psychosis by making us at first think she was misunderstood and mistreated in her youth, but was actually just as much of a monster back then too, and only became more ruthless and cunning as she grew up.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:24 AM

So my collected thoughts on the new trailer. It makes me want to watch the film eventually, like when it comes to Disney+ this holiday season. 


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Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:29 AM

That movie script has a HEEELLLLLLL of an uphill battle. I can't imagine anything they could possibly write that would make "woman who wants to slaughter and skin a hundred puppies" sympathetic in any way.

-ZacWilliam, I feel like that's kind of a hard line to cross

Let's make her the co-captain of a spaceship.

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 08:07 PM

War is not the same as skinning puppies! Maybe, etc.

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 10:10 AM

Only thing that really had me not wanting to see this was the Uncanny Valley Genie.  

Third trailer shows that they don't need to keep him blue and CGI the whole time and WIll's Genie is just as witty as Robin's but in Smith's style.  


Probably won't see it though since I have no one to see it with...


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Posted 25 March 2019 - 09:58 AM

I go to movies alone all the time.  No coordinating schedules, so I can go at any time I please, and at busy showings, it's a hell of a lot easier to find one empty seat than 2 or more together.  Or you could use sites like Meetup.com to see if there's a group in your area that's centered around movies or Disney, and go join that.

 

Either way, please don't let that stop you from seeing films or having other experiences that you may enjoy.



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Posted 28 March 2019 - 09:40 AM

I tend to go to our "dine in theater" alone so I can have dinner and a show without the hassle of cleanup/socializing.


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