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@  unluckiness : (26 March 2019 - 12:29 AM)

ALso him messing around with the wait staff is adorable.

@  unluckiness : (26 March 2019 - 12:29 AM)

That's why I prefer wasting my time on the Kitchen Nightmares channel to the Hell's Kitchen one. He actually talks about the food there rather than increasingly colorful insults.

@  fourteenwings : (26 March 2019 - 12:17 AM)

They know their audience; people looking for videos of Gordon Ramsay being censor-bleeped every five seconds.

@  unluckiness : (26 March 2019 - 12:13 AM)

Gordon Ramsay likes the food compilation - 6 minutes. Gordon Ramsay hates on the food video - 1 hour. I love whoever manages his Youtube channel.

@  Ashley : (25 March 2019 - 06:35 PM)

Yeah, motorized flywheels have changed things a lot

@  Benbot : (25 March 2019 - 06:31 PM)

I'm big into Nerf. The blasters they make today are 1000 times more advanced than anything we had when growing up. There's a thriving modding community too.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 March 2019 - 01:29 PM)

Eh... they're okay. But unless you routinely end up with people who also own/use them (like in college, or an office where the boss buggers off for hours at a time.) they usually just end up sitting around gathering dust because without someone to shoot and shoot back: they quickly get old.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 March 2019 - 01:27 PM)

Hmm. I don't think I have ever owned a Nerf gun in my life despite knowing of them for my entire life and liking the TV adverts.

@  Ashley : (24 March 2019 - 11:08 PM)

a stupid discovery while looking at some nerf guns: they make toilet paper blasters. it's basically an automatic spitball launcher, with a little water tank and a reel for you to put the toilet paper on.

@  MEDdMI : (24 March 2019 - 09:10 PM)

Everyone is a little stupid in their own snowflake way

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 March 2019 - 07:57 PM)

Personally I have a much higher tolerance for anecdotes about Stupid Americans when they come from other Americans.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 March 2019 - 06:46 PM)

Australia is British Florida.

@  Patch : (24 March 2019 - 06:11 PM)

What other country has its own Florida?

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 March 2019 - 12:23 PM)

Many of us are in fact aware that our country is ridiculous.

@  Arazyr : (24 March 2019 - 08:25 AM)

As an American, I have no problem with the amusing anecdotes he's been sharing. In fact, I've been enjoying them, and got no indication of smugness from any of them. Please continue. 8^)

@  The Doctor Who : (24 March 2019 - 06:00 AM)

Minnesota, but I think it's only mentioned in, like, a side comic or something.

@  Maximus Ambus : (24 March 2019 - 05:57 AM)

Ever wonder what state Carly was in after 'The Rebirth'.

@  fourteenwings : (24 March 2019 - 02:15 AM)

I don't think it's right to feel indignation at people telling you that Americans might also have feelings and you should consider them before squawking yet more things in the same vein.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 March 2019 - 01:28 AM)

Intervening? It's not like much of anything that happens in this box is prompted.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 March 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I suppose I would normally feel indignation right about now, but with you I am merely unsurprised that you are intervening in a conversation to express your typical brand of disapproval.

@  Cabooceratops : (24 March 2019 - 01:06 AM)

Nitefort x ]

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 March 2019 - 12:50 AM)

I'm not super fond of Nevermore's habit of using the Shoutbox to complain about TFW users, but those usually seem to be things he's personally witnessed and not anecdotes that he only has confirmation bias to backup, so I can believe he isn't just being smug.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 March 2019 - 12:47 AM)

Amusing? Don't try to pretend you aren't being selective by picking things that support a narrative you're building.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 March 2019 - 12:46 AM)

Shield Agent: this and the previous anecdote didn't sound like you have any reason to believe them beyond confirmation bias, so bringing up these things compulsively achieves nothing beyond making you look smug.

@  fourteenwings : (24 March 2019 - 12:23 AM)

Well I guess Fortnite sounds cool? Maybe it made more sense before the gameplay started to focus on the Battle Royale bit?

@  fourteenwings : (24 March 2019 - 12:22 AM)

To be fair this is only a few days after your very comprehensive thing about St. Patrick's Day. Oh also I guess that thing about the Estonian currency exchange so that's like three entire "Americans!" squawks this week.

@  Maruten : (24 March 2019 - 12:22 AM)

Not that Nitefort is any more sensible obviously.

@  Maruten : (24 March 2019 - 12:21 AM)

I tend to forget that it's called Fortnite because my 3yo calls it "Nitefort" so that's how my whole family refers to it.

@  Maruten : (24 March 2019 - 12:21 AM)

I assume the name is derived from the fact that one can build forts? But the nite part is a stretch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 March 2019 - 12:17 AM)

Hence I thought it would be an amusing anecdote to share as I am not a gamer, but other pop culture-invested people here probably would be, and thus perhaps they would have different relevant experience to share.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 March 2019 - 12:16 AM)

In fact before now I did not feel "superior" for knowing the word "fortnight" because I was raised to believe it was a rare but standard term.

@  Copper Bezel : (23 March 2019 - 10:33 PM)

Eh, it's not a common word in the US, so ... like I sincerely hope no one's feeling superior about it but I wouldn't assume.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 March 2019 - 09:59 PM)

Shield Agent: What is up with your compulsion to bring up every anecdote that supports your superiority complex towards Americans?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 March 2019 - 09:22 PM)

What I don't get is: what is a game titled "two weeks" even about?

@  Trpodeca : (23 March 2019 - 09:16 PM)

What strange people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 March 2019 - 09:11 PM)

Interesting. I have just been informed by several Britons and Australians that since the debut of Fortnite, they have encountered Yanks who do not believe that "fortnight" is a real word.

@  Kayla Kaon : (22 March 2019 - 09:22 PM)

https://discord.gg/jMPfJWk

@  Kayla Kaon : (22 March 2019 - 08:05 PM)

What is up sexy people! Everyone having fun tonight?

@  Rycochet : (22 March 2019 - 01:01 PM)

If they don't take it down or back off, then unfollow. At least then they'll know why people are distancing themselves.

@  Rycochet : (22 March 2019 - 12:54 PM)

Call them out because if nobody challenges them on nonsense, they'll only sink deeper into their rabbithole of stupidity.

@  Benbot : (22 March 2019 - 11:26 AM)

When someone makes a deliberately hateful and dishonest post on Facebook, do you angrily call them out on it, or just ignore or defriend them?

@  Xellos : (22 March 2019 - 11:11 AM)

Dunno, I did watch Combiner Wars...

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 March 2019 - 04:37 AM)

Also, nobody try watching last year's Stargate Origins: Catherine "webisode". My god, I've never seen anything so atrocious

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 March 2019 - 04:36 AM)

Having watched the full decade's' worth of episodes during the last 4 or so weeks, the cult leader Goa'uld was Setesh/"Seth"

@  Pennpenn : (22 March 2019 - 04:00 AM)

I missed a whole bunch of stuff in the Squawkbox. Huh. It's been a long week.

@  Pennpenn : (22 March 2019 - 03:52 AM)

That or Old Testament God with his whole nuking cities, random plagues, brutal pogroms, absurd set ups to test followers faiths, etc etc as a very not rogue Goa'uld.

@  Pennpenn : (22 March 2019 - 03:48 AM)

1) Spite. 2) I'm fairly sure at least one episode did actually have a Goa'uld who'd be hiding out on Earth since the rebellion and had been host swapping and running cults, 3) mostly yeah spiteful contrivance to see Christain groups lose their collective shit.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 March 2019 - 02:49 AM)

If you don't take paypal, and the item isn't a local pickup (in which case Cash is acceptable), I'm pretty sure you need to have some alternative credit card processor you're able to take payment through

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 March 2019 - 02:48 AM)

Technically eBay doesn't own Paypal anymore, but even so I haven't seen an auction in years that didn't take Paypal as a form of payment.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 March 2019 - 11:01 PM)

I was gonna ask "aren't eBay and Paypal basically the same people" but turns out that hasn't been true for a while.


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#41 AgentOrange

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:42 PM

I'm not prepared to write Smith off with so little of the performance on display. I don't know why they chose him, I wouldn't choose him, but I don't think it's impossible that their script plus his Genie ends up being something good. I do look at that teaser though and think... really? Really? 
 
I still have faith that there'll be a fun family flick fere here. I trust Disney. This is not going to be 1992's Aladdin, but being 2019's Aladdin will probably be okay. If the new songs are good! "Dudes from La La Land" doesn't bode well but hopefully Menken can sort them out. Drives me mad when these dudes do remakes and ignore all the new songs they already wrote for Broadway.
 
But  - Frank Welker, woo.


You say "Dudes from La La Land" as if Pasek and Paul aren't as close to an EGOT as Menken and Dear Evan Hansen isn't the hottest show that isn't Hamilton
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:02 AM

Oh! You guys, we forgot to ask a really important question.
 
 
 
 
.....Is Will Smith going to do a Genie rap? 8D


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:12 AM

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Now this is a story that's a revamp

About how I got into a lamp

Now hang on a minute, look at my blue face,

And I'll tell you how I got phenomenal cosmic power with itty bitty living space   


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:20 PM

I have little problems with voice ingards to Genie but that look, its what driving me away, its horrible, extremely horrible, if they simply gone and recreated the original Genie face and then use Will Smith human form on set and use that "phenomenal cosmic power" to take on human appearance, it be much better, I mean Jafar in the sequel film to the original animated film went from his giant red monsterous look to his more normal form, that sort of thing would solve everything wrong with that look!


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 05:25 PM

You say "Dudes from La La Land" as if Pasek and Paul aren't as close to an EGOT as Menken and Dear Evan Hansen isn't the hottest show that isn't Hamilton

 

Jeez, I didn't know La La Land had lyrics by Pasek and Paul. I retract my concern. 

 

I find it difficult to believe that the songs in La La Land and Dear Evan Hansen were touched by the same people, but - learn somethin' new every day. 


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 08:19 AM


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:23 AM

Well... that certainly looks better.

 

Jafar still doesn't sound menacing enough - and Genie rapping Friend Like Me is never going to be right - but beyond that: better.


 
 
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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:30 AM

Credit where credit is due, the prince semantics joke is actually extremely clever considering Djinn were considered natural tricksters and their "wishes" came with some vicious cavets.

 

But that's also about the only original thing I saw in the trailer (Outside what looks like a enlarged Iago chasing Aladdin). The problem the movie is having for me is it's not convincing me there's any reason to watch it when I can watch the animated version whenever I want.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:25 AM

Yeah, I love animated Aladdin.
I see zero reason to watch this instead of that.

-ZacWilliam, But hey I felt that about all the live action remakes so far and I guess they make money cause they havn't stopped. Shrug.

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#50 Paladin

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:32 AM

It doesn't help that the animators from the original movie don't get ANY kind of royalties from this remake thanks to contract loopholes.

 

https://www.cartoonb...ake-165286.html

 

 

Walt's been dead 53 years and he's still finding ways to swipe at the unions.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:47 AM

Yeah, I'll echo the sentiment of this looking "better" and the prince wish thing being funny (I do, though, also like the part where Jafar confides in Aladdin about the Cave of Wonders as though he was a friendly, trustworthy man, which echos how the African Magician from the original 1001 Nights version of the story pretended to be Aladdin's long lost uncle in order to trick him into getting the magic lamp for him), but it's still not enough of its own thing to make itself stand apart from the original.

 

As much as I love the original and its songs, the reuse of the same songs for this movie is likely to make this movie fall into the same trap as Beauty and the Beast, being stuck in a rut that prevents the live action version from truly being its own piece that doesn't need to rely on the materials of the original in order to thrive on its own.

 

  • I liked Cinderella for having as much uniqueness from the original animated version as it did while still maintaining the core components of the classic story.
  • The Jungle Book could have been better if it just had more consistent writing.
  • Christopher Robin was itself an original story altogether, and benefited from it.
  • I didn't bother seeing Maleficent, Alice in Wonderland, or Alice Through the Looking Glass, because all three of them looked awful, but from what I've looked up about those three, it sounds to me like their biggest issues were that they each changed too much of the classic story itself, going in the extreme opposite direction from how Beauty and the Beast deviated too little from the animated one and that what few changes it did make were either nonsensical or just pointless.
  • I also haven't seen Pete's Dragon either since I've still never seen the original, so I really can't say anything about that one.
  • And it's been forever since I last saw either 101 Dalmatians or 102 Dalmatians, so I barely remember either and can't really say anything about them.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 12:18 PM

Well it seems like it might be enjoyable, at least. And they've got some good stuff going on with Will Smith's Genie. Thankfully they don't seem to be trying to make him do Robin Williams, which is what I was worried about the most.

 

I could watch this. Maybe. Won't be anywhere as good as the original, but that seems to be the trend with these remakes.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 03:38 PM

Having seen the trailer, it has changed my mind about the film, a bit, I hope the blue Genie is kept to a small amount, it looks ok but I think this will work better with Will Smith looking like a normal human and take the character of Genie and make it his own without trying to seriously mimic Robin Williams (RIP), I can see this film making some desent numbers when it hits cinemas later this year, if anything, it looks better than Dumbo, but one thing hasn't really changed in my mind, is I think the biggest of the three live action remakes will be Lion King. I'll remain open minded about this film, thou I don't plan to see it in cinemas, I will be looking for geniune reviews of the film, can't trust Rotten Tomatos anymore, there is a lot of shady buiness going on in regards to reviews posted for a certain comic book movie.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 04:39 PM

Yeah, I love animated Aladdin.
I see zero reason to watch this instead of that.

 

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 04:50 PM

Apparently people don't have enough joy in their hearts nowadays to love more than one thing at a time. Binary love.


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:44 PM


It's fine to like two things, but you have to actually sell me Thing 2 as having something special and fun enough aside from just being a copy of Thing 1. I already have Thing 1 and I don't need to spend a bunch of money to see a slightly inferior copy.

-ZacWilliam, so far this has not done that.
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Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:59 PM

And that's fine.

 

Personally I think unless something about the movie had made me actively angry to a "don't support this with ticket sales" degree, I'd be lining up to see this kind of thing out of morbid curiosity if nothing else. 

 

As it is, these live action remakes are no worse than the Broadway adaptations. Indeed they're much better, because they're much easier to see. Do people complain about the Broadway adaptations being unnecessary bastardisations? I don't know. 


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:10 AM


I think being a live in a theater experence, especially a well done play or broadway musical is enough of a "something new and special" for most folks to not mind. Seeing a play or musical performed on stage is a pretty big difference from watching a movie.

-ZacWilliam, That may not hold true for everyone but I think most people probably.
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#59 Rust

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 06:26 PM

 

Yeah, I love animated Aladdin.
I see zero reason to watch this instead of that.

 

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Trying to think of a good analogy to explain, but coming up blank. So I can say this for myself on the subject:

 

I harbor no ill will towards this film. Nor do I particularly care if it succeeds (It will). Beyond the single wish specification gag (Which really was quite good) everything's pretty much beat for beat with how it was in the animated feature...which I can watch now.

 

Example:

 

 

See what this mash up did was make me want to go watch the animated film. The live action trailer made me want to go watch the animated film. The trailer didn't do for me what it was supposed to, because ultimately it's so close to the source material as to be irrelevant. Which isn't so bad as like say Total Recall, which diverged so far from what made the original work that it killed my interest from the trailers alone.

 

Happy mediums. Modern Death Race 2000 was a good one. The original is a shlock camp classic. I can enjoy both, because both are clearly being their own thing while the modern makes nods to the original. This film might do more of its own thing - honestly I think it was a mistake to make the big musical push of the trailer "A Whole New World" and not Will Smith's take on "Never Had A Friend Like Me". Sure it's still a same song from the original, but it was a new take. The problem is the trailer isn't pushing the new takes, it's pushing the nostalgia button.

 

And I've got a vehement reaction to having my nostalgia button pushed. Maybe I've just gotten old and cynical, but I don't like it when I KNOW I'm being marketed towards. (Only exception to that rule would probably be if someone finally brought back Dino Riders. But hey, we all have that one we'll willingly spread our wallets for)


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Your fever dream, can't you see it getting closer / Just surrender 'cause you feel the feeling taking over
It's fire, it's freedom, it's flooding open / It's a preacher in the pulpit and you'll find devotion
There's something breaking at the brick of every wall, it's holding All that you know
So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 06:46 PM

How about this:

The remake doesn't do enough to convince you that going to see it would be better than just popping the Blue-Ray into the home theater and watching that again in the comfort of your own home.

 

That sounds about like what I'm hearing, which is a completely reasonable way to think.  Why watch the remake if it doesn't do enough better/different to the original?


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