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@  Lancer : (18 February 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Make his fur a red and black flannel pattern

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:10 PM)

Bonus points if you can work in a red and black flannel pattern on his chest plate.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:09 PM)

Might as well make it cliched. Lumberjack moose male and aristocratic deer female.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2019 - 08:16 PM)

Or their aristocratic deer.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2019 - 08:10 PM)

Thinking of making a pair of moose Transformer OCs, male and female. Thier a lovey dovy pair of lumberjacks

@  Paladin : (18 February 2019 - 06:56 PM)

they also have NOTORIOUSLY poor protection on their servers. do NOT keep a credit card on file there.

@  Telly : (18 February 2019 - 04:48 PM)

i just checked my past tfsource orders, and theres no sales tax charge

@  Arazyr : (18 February 2019 - 11:16 AM)

They haven't (yet, at least) on the stuff I currently have in my Stack. Haven't had them ship anything for a while, though, so I don't know if they will when I do...

@  Benbot : (18 February 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Does TFSource charge sales tax?

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:47 AM)

That's because, once upon a time, the people whom owned the animals weren't the people whom butchered them. So the pig was owned by a saxon who spoke english, but butchered by a french speaker. So a pig got cut up into PORC chops.

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2019 - 03:25 AM)

Hank Pym<<<< Hank Hill

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 February 2019 - 01:28 AM)

In that case, I don't see anything wrong with English speakers calling it what it is in English. Even though we technically use the French words for what comes out of it. "Beef", "pork"...

@  Bass X0 : (17 February 2019 - 02:04 PM)

I’d like a Siege Thundercracker who has his regular blue colors Cybertronian jet mode which transforms into a robot mode with his Action Master colors. Looks like it could be possible.

@  Paladin : (17 February 2019 - 11:57 AM)

The cow was slaughtered in the abattoir.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 February 2019 - 08:53 AM)

It's not a pretty name: abattoir is literally just the french word for slaughterhouse.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 February 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Giving it a pretty name won't make it a pretty place.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 February 2019 - 02:45 AM)

I do believe there is an aphorism about the U.S.A. and yogurt being different because after 200 years the latter will have a culture.

@  Maruten : (16 February 2019 - 11:30 PM)

There's another word for "abattoir"?! Honestly you people, "slaughterhouse" is a bit on the nose.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 February 2019 - 10:09 PM)

I learned this week that the French-style term abattoir is prevalent in the UK/Commonwealth in place of where U.S.-American Anglophones would say "slaughterhouse". Fascinating.

@  MEDdMI : (16 February 2019 - 08:51 PM)

Nonsense. Everybody loves all my posts.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (16 February 2019 - 08:27 PM)

Or dislike them. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2019 - 05:34 PM)

Wish we could like the shout posts...

@  Patch : (16 February 2019 - 04:26 PM)

Uh oh. Here comes a flock of Wah-Wahs.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (16 February 2019 - 10:54 AM)

Oh, that makes more sense.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2019 - 07:31 AM)

Haven't given it to him yet. Not sure when I will, but soon. Wah Wah is what he calls any vehicle with a siren, and the little bugger just LOVES firetrucks. So I got him a rescue bot heatwave.

@  repowers : (16 February 2019 - 02:41 AM)

I hope he said "You've given me a wah-wah"

@  Dekafox : (16 February 2019 - 12:48 AM)

A red panda?

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@  wonko the sane? : (15 February 2019 - 08:54 PM)

Yay! My nephew's Wah Wah showed up today!

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 February 2019 - 08:12 PM)

BotBots are GLORIOUS

@  Pennpenn : (14 February 2019 - 07:07 PM)

A day best ignored if you're not the target demographic. Can be difficult sometimes though.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2019 - 11:55 AM)

Valentine's Day. bummer.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2019 - 08:55 AM)

Or you could come to canada, where bureaucracy is a publically funded art form! So garbage and used condoms trying to make a statement about something or other, not entirely sure what.

@  Nevermore : (14 February 2019 - 06:10 AM)

We've turned it into an art form.

@  Nevermore : (14 February 2019 - 06:10 AM)

You think you know bureaucracy, but you've never been to Germany.

@  RichardT1977 : (13 February 2019 - 11:48 PM)

I think a better counterpart would be "society".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (13 February 2019 - 11:24 PM)

Sounds like the cobra effect.

@  Echowarrior : (13 February 2019 - 05:58 PM)

I think a better counterpart for it would be bureaucracy.

@  MEDdMI : (13 February 2019 - 08:33 AM)

Is Verbesserschlimmerung a change that was intented to make things worse but made them better instead?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 February 2019 - 07:35 AM)

We have a similar word in english "government".

@  Nevermore : (13 February 2019 - 06:05 AM)

The meaning of this word is: A change that was intended as an improvement but ended up making things worse.

@  Nevermore : (13 February 2019 - 06:04 AM)

It's a portmanteau of "Verbesserung", which means "improvement", and "Verschlimmerung", which means "worsening".

@  Nevermore : (13 February 2019 - 06:04 AM)

Your new German word for today: Verschlimmbesserung.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 February 2019 - 02:17 PM)

Fortunately it's been long enough now that the possibility exists another label like Shout Factory or Arrow could pick it up and give it an updated release.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 February 2019 - 02:16 PM)

It's the same with their Dawn of the Dead blu-ray, and several others

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 February 2019 - 02:11 PM)

In Volcano's case it isn't so much a case just of amazon or eBay sellers... it looks like rather than releasing it directly, Fox licensed it out to Starz/Anchor Bay, and it's subsequently gone out of print

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 February 2019 - 01:28 PM)

There's Amazon sellers for you.

@  Telly : (12 February 2019 - 12:49 PM)

thought about buying volcano on bluray last night, until i saw the price on amazon: $135. the used ones arent much cheaper at $90. i know the 3p sellers can set any price they want, but come on. $90-$135 for a 20 year old movie that was only so-so?

@  unluckiness : (12 February 2019 - 05:12 AM)

GOt my hopes up there for a bit. Last I heard it was nebulously in 2019.

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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 03:50 PM

Saw this in my Twitter feed. What is the opinion here? Does it grate on your mind when a writer does not know a basic life phenomenon, and their lack of research is painfully apparent?

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 04:30 PM

I have 4 brothers and can't really imagine not calling them by their first name?

"Bro" is slang tho so that one slides. I did have neigbors once who had 2 fraternal twins. One time I heard the one say "Brother, come here" and it struck me as peculiar.

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 04:32 PM

There... are indeed parents who don't refer to their kids by name. Has he not met any?

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 04:51 PM

In regards to the first example, I agree with the initial point, but not the response. It's weird when characters only refer to their children as "our son/daughter" (with allowance made for when a kid did something wrong/stupid  e.g. "YOUR son stuck his wiener in the toaster... again."


But siblings? I don't have any, but my wife calls her sister by her first name all the time. I think everyone I know refers to their siblings by their first names unless they happen to have a nickname of some sort.


In the broader sense though yes, basic information that gets missed or worse still, intentionally ignored to enable a plot device irritates me. I'm not saying minutia necessarily (unless the writing clearly makes a big deal about how important minutia is but still selectively ignores it - like sound in space or something), but just basic stuff like I don't know, a procedural drama that so blatantly ignores procedure just for the sake of increasing the "intensity" of a scene and then never deals with the real fallout that should have follow. Suits is a notorious example of this that springs to mind. It's a law firm yet - among many other issues - they offer such a ridiculously hostile work environment that they'd be sued out of existence multiple times over. Also, every medical show ever.


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Posted 04 February 2019 - 06:18 PM

It also depends on the tone and setting.

It wouldn't be entirely out of place to use 'brother' or 'sister' in a high fantasy setting (like Lord of the Rings) or if you're setting a specific portentous tone, where speaking casually would undermine tensions.

Like almost all writing, it's a matter of using the right words in the right context.


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Posted 04 February 2019 - 08:19 PM

I dunno, when I was a kid I was sure my name was 'You Little Shit'

And my sisters were all a variation of 'JenHeathAngela'
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Posted 05 February 2019 - 01:12 AM

I call all my sibs by first names or bro or sis


What else are you gonna call them otherwise??

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 02:07 AM

Yeah I was confused, being an only child, that siblings don't call each other by their first name.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 02:35 AM

I'm really curious to know what she did call her sister, if not any of the obvious things. Unfortunately I guess we'll never know, since her Twitter is private.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 08:27 AM

I'm an only child, but the only set of siblings I interact with regularly are my cousins F'lis (Felicity) and Em (Emily).

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 11:28 AM

I called my brother all kinds of names, none of which are on his birth certificate. ;)  

My sister, though, she's always just been Sarah.  

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 01:30 PM

When this sort of thing pops up in fiction, it's almost always hamfisted exposition to explain character relationships, with exceptions like the Han and Leia thing where they were saving Ben's name reveal for a dramatic moment. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in real life, but the reason for it in fiction is always obvious and takes me out of it a bit.

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 03:02 PM

Neither way is broadly wrong or unrealistic. It all depends on context, and the characters relationships.
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Posted 05 February 2019 - 05:38 PM

Generally I call them diminutives. I doubt I've ever called my brother Gabriel and I likely haven't called my sister Elisia very much. It's pretty much always been Gabe and Leesh.

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Posted 06 February 2019 - 02:31 AM

I call my brothers usually by their shortened names. Bob, Jon, Greg and other times Roberto, J, and G-man, but that's usually when I'm feeling rather like being pains in their butts. Bro is the most commonly used term between us.

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 02:20 PM

I refer to my brother by his first name. So do my parents. Pretty sure that's normal.

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Posted 15 February 2019 - 02:44 PM

American Dad did a brilliant take on this when Stan is listening in on a conversation Francine is having with her sister over the phone concerning financial troubles.


"What?...I've never called you 'sis' before?....Huh. You're right. It DOES sound like clunky exposition to explain who you are to people who have never met you before. Weird."

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