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@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

@  Roddie Luver : (15 February 2020 - 10:55 PM)

Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.

@  Otaku : (14 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

So is that an occasion for congratulations or condolences, Telly?  I see it as a good thing, but that is a matter of personal preference; easier for me to keep straight who is who when the names don't change. XP

@  Telly : (14 February 2020 - 12:48 AM)

damn. ive been going by "telly" on here for nearly 14 years...

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 February 2020 - 08:06 PM)

I've seen it. It didn't really deliver on the title

@  Paladin : (11 February 2020 - 05:28 PM)

we don't need to see that. we're living it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 February 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Anyone seen an old British movie called 'The Earth dies screaming' it's like a Doctor Who serial minus the Doctor.

@  TriBlurr : (09 February 2020 - 11:58 AM)

Needs more zone defense. Call Scrapper

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2020 - 11:29 AM)

MORE POINTS FOR BLITZWING!

@  Donocropolis : (09 February 2020 - 09:33 AM)

MP-7 Thundercracker recovers....he's at the 40....the 20....AND HE SCORES!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 February 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Reserved for Masterpiece Kup.

@  Sabrblade : (08 February 2020 - 09:49 PM)

MP-10 Convoy redecoed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2020 - 06:56 AM)

MP-9 Rodimus self-destructed.

@  Nevermore : (08 February 2020 - 06:51 AM)

MP-5 Megatron removed.

@  Bass X0 : (08 February 2020 - 05:20 AM)

MP-50 Tigatron and MP-51 Arcee revealed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 February 2020 - 02:26 PM)

SkiNNEERRR

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 February 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Superintendent Chalmers is hilarious too, or was when he was played straight. "An unrelated article." "mm hm." "Within the banner headline."

@  PlutoniumBoss : (06 February 2020 - 09:03 PM)

"I'm not a real Mister but I am a real Burns I am an actual Burns..."

@  Darth Gonzo : (06 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Optimus looks like his Siege figure. Maybe this will be canon to the Transformers ongoing comic series at the moment.

@  Cyoti : (06 February 2020 - 05:13 PM)

iirc megatron ended up in equestria at the end of gi joe v tfs

@  wonko the sane? : (06 February 2020 - 05:02 PM)

I doubt megatron will fall for that friendship stuff.

@  Darth Gonzo : (06 February 2020 - 02:04 PM)

My Little Pony/Transformers is really happening cool!

@  Paladin : (06 February 2020 - 12:49 PM)

I don't know...

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 February 2020 - 12:39 PM)

Okay, Mr. Burns. What's your first name?

@  Paladin : (06 February 2020 - 12:21 PM)

i believe you have a letter for me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (06 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

My name is Mr Burns.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (06 February 2020 - 11:52 AM)

*Walks in and immediately disappears into a bush like Homer Simpson.*

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 February 2020 - 05:05 AM)

Crossgrin OTP

@  TriBlurr : (05 February 2020 - 09:38 PM)

If anyone at IDW is reading this. Feel free to make that canon

@  TriBlurr : (05 February 2020 - 09:36 PM)

Sweet I can ship him with...*throws dart at board* Skullgrin??? Sure that works


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#1 D.M

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:37 AM

These adverts were aimed at the broadcasters, used to sell the show to various networks across USA. :)

The following are taken from Broadcasting Magazine:
-January 9th, 1984:
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It appears the promo cel used there was based on the storyboard for the very first TV spot:
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-[unknown date], 1985:
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-April 29th, 1985:
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-July 1st, 1985:
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-September 16th, 1985:
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-September 30th, 1985:
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-November 18th, 1985:
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-December 30th, 1985:
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-August 9th, 1986:
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-September 15th, 1986:
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-October 20th, 1986:
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-December 29th, 1986 (Air Riders were ultimately unproduced):
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-April 20th, 1987:
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If more trade adverts show up, they will be added. :)

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:41 AM

Nice collection

 

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:22 AM

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:27 AM

Some great stuff.

 

I find it ironic that they're advertising to keep Transformers on in 1987 when the series was ending.

 

But reruns were a lot more common back then.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:31 AM

Gotta love how oversimplified Superion is in that '87 shot. I know Transformer animation models are pretty "smoothed over" to often hide a lot of alt-mode kibble, but there's NO WAY anyone looking at him would think "oh yeah, he has planes for arms and legs".


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:36 AM

Some great stuff.

 

I find it ironic that they're advertising to keep Transformers on in 1987 when the series was ending.

 

But reruns were a lot more common back then.

 

With as abruptly as the decision was made to go ahead and end the series, it's entirely possible that the marketing team who made that ad fully believed a complete season was in the works. 



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:43 AM

Love this stuff! D.M., you'd know - has a nice big image of the full Superion/Rodimus/Galvatron "season 3" promotional poster seen in the '87 ad ever come to light? I know there've been smaller, partially-obscured versions of it used as VHS and DVD covers...


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:47 AM

Love this stuff! D.M., you'd know - has a nice big image of the full Superion/Rodimus/Galvatron "season 3" promotional poster seen in the '87 ad ever come to light? I know there've been smaller, partially-obscured versions of it used as VHS and DVD covers...

Thus far I haven't seen it in good quality.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:49 AM

Boo! Speaks to the rarity of post-movie behind-the-scenes stuff. Someday some Sunbow vault is gonna get cracked open and we're finally going to get some materials like that and scripts and bibles from the post-movie era...


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:00 PM

Also some raid Clasters vaults to they might have some goodies


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:09 PM

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

 

Air Raiders was all set to be the next Marvel/Sunbow co-production.  Ron Friedman and Doug Booth had been working on it since at least the summer of '86.  All the material got sold off in the Friedman auctions of 2010.

 

Hasbro briefing book:

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Product Information folder

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Bible and story summary:

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Script for 3-part pilot (last revision 27/01/87)

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Summaries, notes and a second attempt at a pilot script from March 87

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.


Edited by Greebtron, 01 February 2019 - 12:21 PM.

The Sunbow and Marvel Productions script/storyboard archive, chronicling ten years of animation history: https://sunbowmarvel...e.blogspot.com/

 


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:40 PM

Youtube video in question, for reference: 


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:00 PM

I was going to say "I recognize that weird rifle Thundercracker has" and I meant to try to figure out what it was but then I realized oh man he has his nosecone on the back of his head and that was all I cared about.

 

I really like the way his face is rendered, too.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:05 PM

I was going to say "I recognize that weird rifle Thundercracker has" and I meant to try to figure out what it was but then I realized oh man he has his nosecone on the back of his head and that was all I cared about.

 

I really like the way his face is rendered, too.

It's basically, "What if Floro Dery had designed the S1 characters from the ground up instead of doing a game of telephone with Shohei Kohara's designs?"  The rifle looks like Shrapnel's.

 

Oh, wait, I see the storyboard panels show it at different angles.  Heh, looks like Dery recycled that rifle into Rodimus Prime's later.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:08 PM

Huh.

 

...I guess it's an error, since the blacks are all correct on the first poster otherwise, but he's black on the later versions.  Weird.

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:25 PM

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

 
Air Raiders was all set to be the next Marvel/Sunbow co-production.  Ron Friedman and Doug Booth had been working on it since at least the summer of '86.  All the material got sold off in the Friedman auctions of 2010.
 
Hasbro briefing book:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Product Information folder
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Bible and story summary:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Script for 3-part pilot (last revision 27/01/87)
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Summaries, notes and a second attempt at a pilot script from March 87
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.

Sometimes the internet makes me soooo sad. I just can't imagine getting a hold of documents like those and not IMMEDIATELY chronicaling and sharing every single bit of information within. As far as I'm concerned the only reason to buy them would be to share it all with everybody who was interested (and possibly some people who weren't as well. ;) )

-ZacWilliam, knowing stuff like that is out there and there's a good chance we'll never get to read and look at it is just ugh. :p
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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:35 PM

I think I, walruslaw, D.M, and several others all tend to buy these things up just to share them and make sure they're archived online.

 

...All my hate to whoever bought that earliest TFTM script and squirreled it away grumblegrumblegrumble


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:50 PM

 

 

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

 
Air Raiders was all set to be the next Marvel/Sunbow co-production.  Ron Friedman and Doug Booth had been working on it since at least the summer of '86.  All the material got sold off in the Friedman auctions of 2010.
 
Hasbro briefing book:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Product Information folder
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Bible and story summary:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Script for 3-part pilot (last revision 27/01/87)
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Summaries, notes and a second attempt at a pilot script from March 87
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.

Sometimes the internet makes me soooo sad. I just can't imagine getting a hold of documents like those and not IMMEDIATELY chronicaling and sharing every single bit of information within. As far as I'm concerned the only reason to buy them would be to share it all with everybody who was interested (and possibly some people who weren't as well. ;) )

-ZacWilliam, knowing stuff like that is out there and there's a good chance we'll never get to read and look at it is just ugh. :p

 

 

Well, just on Transformers alone, here is what is confirmed as being out there in the last decade that has not been digitised and made available in some form:

 

The earliest treatment for TFTM from August 1984

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Scripts:

Changing Gears

City Of Steel

Attack Of The Autobots

Traitor

The Immobilizer

The Autobot Run

Atlantis Arise!

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2

Desertion Of The Dinobots, Part 1 and 2

MTMTE Part 1 storyboards (whether partial or complete is unknown)

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

City Of Steel storyboards (Nelson Shin's copy)

https://www.worthpoi...inal-1901727154

 

Rust In Peace (Cosmic Rust) storyboards:

https://www.worthpoi...lete-1844269868

 

The Big Broadcast of 2006 script (The late Alan Kupperberg's copy, used for the Marvel comic adaptation)

https://www.worthpoi...ript-1938816394

 

Grimlock's New Brain (script and storyboards from Paul Davids' collection)

https://www.worthpoi...lete-1844270224


The Sunbow and Marvel Productions script/storyboard archive, chronicling ten years of animation history: https://sunbowmarvel...e.blogspot.com/

 


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 02:38 PM

Reading between the lines, it got sadder further along. "Transformers: A hit again in '87 because we brought Optimus back, please send your commercial invoices now!"

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 03:16 PM

The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.

Their troubled relationship spilled over into the marketing as well.

 

At first things seem swell:

-March 7th, 1983:

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-March 21st, 1983:

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-October 3rd, 1983:

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Then came that January 1984 advert featuring TF's. The 1st time Marvel gets no mention, but follow up Transformers had the MP logo.

And then came 1985 and Marvel gets ZERO mention on G.I. Joe ads, nor on JEM:

-April 15th, 1985:

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-September 16th, 1985:

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-November 18th, 1985:

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-December 30th, 1985:

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From 1986 and onward, Marvel would get credited again:

 

-April 14th, 1986:

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-September 8th, 1986:

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-December 29th, 1986:

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-April 20th, 1987:
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"In February, Claster & Sunbow led the ratings!"

Possible sign of hostility toward Marvel...

 

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-August 24th, 1987:

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-September 28th, 1987:

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-December 28th, 1987:

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