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@  Maximus Ambus : (28 March 2020 - 01:13 PM)

At least the ozone layer is healing. unless this is a 0.0000000001% thing it's sounds like good news.

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:27 AM)

(But only pretty sure, not 100% sure.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Pretty sure y'all were thinking of Fortress Maximus yesterday.

@  Bass X0 : (28 March 2020 - 12:38 AM)

Dare! Dare to believe you can survive 2020!

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 March 2020 - 08:18 PM)

Baja Blast is back at retail!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 03:47 PM)

Shame he wasn't around more. He seemed like such a jolly, happy soul.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 02:16 PM)

No, he was definitely Metroplex. You could tell because he was in Metroplex's distinctive red and green coloration.

@  Paladin : (27 March 2020 - 02:11 PM)

that was Leader-1. or possibly Jolt. maybe Grindor...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 01:57 PM)

Metroplex was in Armada, in a flashback. He was the same size as everybody else. I thought that was the joke.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (27 March 2020 - 12:39 PM)

@Rodimus Supreme: Gah! You are right! How'd I get that mixed up? x.x;

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 12:14 PM)

There is no Metroplex. Only Zuul.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:13 AM)

@Tm_Silverclaw: There is no Armada Metroplex, he was in Cybertron.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:12 AM)

And they'd be better off just retooling Metroplex and Fortress Maximus to be somewhat more accurate and changing/adding parts for interaction with later play gimmicks.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:11 AM)

I honestly would prefer that for scale purposes.

@  Cyoti : (27 March 2020 - 11:07 AM)

They can redo all the CW combiners as Titan Class figures like Predaking/Devastator.

@  Dekafox : (27 March 2020 - 07:52 AM)

They could just redo Metroplex again too. Especially if it's going to be S3 based. They could also do another Primus to go with the coming Unicron.

@  OverDrive73 : (26 March 2020 - 10:56 PM)

If anyone is bored, or interested... I just added the last chapter to my fanfic comic in Allspark Pictures

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 March 2020 - 10:54 PM)

And no.. We could always get Titan Class Superion.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 March 2020 - 10:53 PM)

We need Titan Class Transformers Armada Metroplex.

@  Telly : (26 March 2020 - 08:39 PM)

ill be surprised if scorpy isnt the last titan

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 March 2020 - 05:57 PM)

Too bad a new character titan class figure is pretty much an impossibility.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 March 2020 - 05:56 PM)

I want a titan class, really good looking bucket wheel excavator. Like Cybertron Metroplex was supposed to be but didn't quite pull off.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 March 2020 - 03:32 PM)

I just taped up a shower curtain and took my first shower in three weeks. It was heavenly.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (26 March 2020 - 11:48 AM)

I would buy that...

@  Maximus Ambus : (24 March 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Studio Series 100 Titan Class Driller.

@  Sabrblade : (23 March 2020 - 09:05 PM)

I'll give ya 25 cents, a pack of gum, and some peanuts.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 March 2020 - 07:35 PM)

I can give ya twenty bucks for it.

@  Paladin : (23 March 2020 - 04:28 PM)

hoarder? I hardly know 'er?

@  Dekafox : (23 March 2020 - 01:52 PM)

FOR THE HORDE!

@  repowers : (23 March 2020 - 01:48 PM)

* hordes shrubberies *

@  Telly : (23 March 2020 - 01:46 PM)

YET...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 March 2020 - 01:22 PM)

At least we haven't resorted to shouting "NI" at old ladies.

@  CORVUS : (23 March 2020 - 11:04 AM)

Keep it out, and I won't reply to it.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 March 2020 - 08:50 AM)

It's a sad world where we can't discuss our health and safety without it descending into political arguments...

@  fourteenwings : (22 March 2020 - 11:46 PM)

woah I have no idea what's going on here but it's certainly breaking the "keep P&R out of the shoutbox" rules (which really should be enforced like... at all)

@  CORVUS : (22 March 2020 - 11:13 PM)

Ugh, Chinese. Typo-city.

@  CORVUS : (22 March 2020 - 11:11 PM)

Rodimus, you're just flat-out wrong. Trump eliminated the Pandemic Response Team. Trump was advised in January that this could be serious, and he didn't listen. Trump spent weeks downplaying COVID-19 by implying it was a hoax, and then that it was just a type of flu. He was late to close down travel from China, and by the time he closed down air-travel to the EU, that was also too late. He has refused to take responsibility for removing the pandemic response team, even though he basically bragged about it some months before. He's also prematurely talked up treatments using chlorquinine that have not been properly vetted as yet, and he keeps calling COVID-19 the "Chinense virus" because he can't help but be a jerk. Face facts: Trump is an incompetent bungler. Period. Full-stop.

@  repowers : (22 March 2020 - 03:49 PM)

That's totally super biased!

@  Nevermore : (22 March 2020 - 03:00 PM)

I'm not. I'm listening to his own contradictory statements.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 March 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Most people don't, but it's still making enough ratings to continue, apparently.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2020 - 11:45 AM)

I’m not finding modern episodes of The Simpson’s at all funny.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (22 March 2020 - 11:44 AM)

Trump HAS been working on this, stop listening to those idiot "news" outlets that just spin everything against him out of bias.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 March 2020 - 08:52 AM)

At the least, they could keep it off of Twitter.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 March 2020 - 08:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure the capuchin from "outbreak" would have done a better job than trump.

@  Nevermore : (22 March 2020 - 05:13 AM)

Isn't it sad that President Schwarzenegger would have been the better alternative in retrospect?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 March 2020 - 03:38 AM)

It was President Schwarzenegger, not Wolfcastle.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 March 2020 - 02:51 AM)

He put that in a speech in Springfields 'Do as we say' festival in 2005 too.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 March 2020 - 09:05 AM)

"I came here to LEAD not to read" -President Wolfcastle

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 March 2020 - 02:30 AM)

Be a leader not a reader

@  Telly : (20 March 2020 - 09:15 PM)

then start one? :p


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#1 D.M

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:37 AM

These adverts were aimed at the broadcasters, used to sell the show to various networks across USA. :)

The following are taken from Broadcasting Magazine:
-January 9th, 1984:
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It appears the promo cel used there was based on the storyboard for the very first TV spot:
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-[unknown date], 1985:
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-April 29th, 1985:
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-July 1st, 1985:
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-September 16th, 1985:
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-September 30th, 1985:
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-November 18th, 1985:
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-December 30th, 1985:
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-August 9th, 1986:
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-September 15th, 1986:
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-October 20th, 1986:
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-December 29th, 1986 (Air Riders were ultimately unproduced):
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-April 20th, 1987:
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If more trade adverts show up, they will be added. :)

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:41 AM

Nice collection

 

Another seeker goes into gerwalk mode

 

Now can I get my Super Valk in Skywarp colors?


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:22 AM

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:27 AM

Some great stuff.

 

I find it ironic that they're advertising to keep Transformers on in 1987 when the series was ending.

 

But reruns were a lot more common back then.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:31 AM

Gotta love how oversimplified Superion is in that '87 shot. I know Transformer animation models are pretty "smoothed over" to often hide a lot of alt-mode kibble, but there's NO WAY anyone looking at him would think "oh yeah, he has planes for arms and legs".


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:36 AM

Some great stuff.

 

I find it ironic that they're advertising to keep Transformers on in 1987 when the series was ending.

 

But reruns were a lot more common back then.

 

With as abruptly as the decision was made to go ahead and end the series, it's entirely possible that the marketing team who made that ad fully believed a complete season was in the works. 



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:43 AM

Love this stuff! D.M., you'd know - has a nice big image of the full Superion/Rodimus/Galvatron "season 3" promotional poster seen in the '87 ad ever come to light? I know there've been smaller, partially-obscured versions of it used as VHS and DVD covers...


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:47 AM

Love this stuff! D.M., you'd know - has a nice big image of the full Superion/Rodimus/Galvatron "season 3" promotional poster seen in the '87 ad ever come to light? I know there've been smaller, partially-obscured versions of it used as VHS and DVD covers...

Thus far I haven't seen it in good quality.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 11:49 AM

Boo! Speaks to the rarity of post-movie behind-the-scenes stuff. Someday some Sunbow vault is gonna get cracked open and we're finally going to get some materials like that and scripts and bibles from the post-movie era...


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:00 PM

Also some raid Clasters vaults to they might have some goodies


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:09 PM

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

 

Air Raiders was all set to be the next Marvel/Sunbow co-production.  Ron Friedman and Doug Booth had been working on it since at least the summer of '86.  All the material got sold off in the Friedman auctions of 2010.

 

Hasbro briefing book:

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Product Information folder

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Bible and story summary:

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Script for 3-part pilot (last revision 27/01/87)

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Summaries, notes and a second attempt at a pilot script from March 87

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.


Edited by Greebtron, 01 February 2019 - 12:21 PM.

The Sunbow and Marvel Productions script/storyboard archive, chronicling ten years of animation history: https://sunbowmarvel...e.blogspot.com/

 


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 12:40 PM

Youtube video in question, for reference: 


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:00 PM

I was going to say "I recognize that weird rifle Thundercracker has" and I meant to try to figure out what it was but then I realized oh man he has his nosecone on the back of his head and that was all I cared about.

 

I really like the way his face is rendered, too.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:05 PM

I was going to say "I recognize that weird rifle Thundercracker has" and I meant to try to figure out what it was but then I realized oh man he has his nosecone on the back of his head and that was all I cared about.

 

I really like the way his face is rendered, too.

It's basically, "What if Floro Dery had designed the S1 characters from the ground up instead of doing a game of telephone with Shohei Kohara's designs?"  The rifle looks like Shrapnel's.

 

Oh, wait, I see the storyboard panels show it at different angles.  Heh, looks like Dery recycled that rifle into Rodimus Prime's later.


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:08 PM

Huh.

 

...I guess it's an error, since the blacks are all correct on the first poster otherwise, but he's black on the later versions.  Weird.

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:25 PM

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

 
Air Raiders was all set to be the next Marvel/Sunbow co-production.  Ron Friedman and Doug Booth had been working on it since at least the summer of '86.  All the material got sold off in the Friedman auctions of 2010.
 
Hasbro briefing book:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Product Information folder
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Bible and story summary:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Script for 3-part pilot (last revision 27/01/87)
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Summaries, notes and a second attempt at a pilot script from March 87
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.

Sometimes the internet makes me soooo sad. I just can't imagine getting a hold of documents like those and not IMMEDIATELY chronicaling and sharing every single bit of information within. As far as I'm concerned the only reason to buy them would be to share it all with everybody who was interested (and possibly some people who weren't as well. ;) )

-ZacWilliam, knowing stuff like that is out there and there's a good chance we'll never get to read and look at it is just ugh. :p
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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:35 PM

I think I, walruslaw, D.M, and several others all tend to buy these things up just to share them and make sure they're archived online.

 

...All my hate to whoever bought that earliest TFTM script and squirreled it away grumblegrumblegrumble


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:50 PM

 

 

The thing I find most interesting there is that Hasbro apparently had plans for an Air Raiders cartoon that never came to be.

I wonder if the same Asian economic factors that contributed to Inhumanoids and Visionaries ending helped nip that one in the bud.

-ZacWilliam, having a cartoon could only have helped Air Raiders which were on huge clearance at our Sears Surpus store forever, but it probably wouldn't have helped enough.

 
Air Raiders was all set to be the next Marvel/Sunbow co-production.  Ron Friedman and Doug Booth had been working on it since at least the summer of '86.  All the material got sold off in the Friedman auctions of 2010.
 
Hasbro briefing book:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Product Information folder
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Bible and story summary:
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Script for 3-part pilot (last revision 27/01/87)
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
Summaries, notes and a second attempt at a pilot script from March 87
https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515
 
The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.

Sometimes the internet makes me soooo sad. I just can't imagine getting a hold of documents like those and not IMMEDIATELY chronicaling and sharing every single bit of information within. As far as I'm concerned the only reason to buy them would be to share it all with everybody who was interested (and possibly some people who weren't as well. ;) )

-ZacWilliam, knowing stuff like that is out there and there's a good chance we'll never get to read and look at it is just ugh. :p

 

 

Well, just on Transformers alone, here is what is confirmed as being out there in the last decade that has not been digitised and made available in some form:

 

The earliest treatment for TFTM from August 1984

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Scripts:

Changing Gears

City Of Steel

Attack Of The Autobots

Traitor

The Immobilizer

The Autobot Run

Atlantis Arise!

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2

Desertion Of The Dinobots, Part 1 and 2

MTMTE Part 1 storyboards (whether partial or complete is unknown)

https://comics.ha.co...cription-071515

 

City Of Steel storyboards (Nelson Shin's copy)

https://www.worthpoi...inal-1901727154

 

Rust In Peace (Cosmic Rust) storyboards:

https://www.worthpoi...lete-1844269868

 

The Big Broadcast of 2006 script (The late Alan Kupperberg's copy, used for the Marvel comic adaptation)

https://www.worthpoi...ript-1938816394

 

Grimlock's New Brain (script and storyboards from Paul Davids' collection)

https://www.worthpoi...lete-1844270224


The Sunbow and Marvel Productions script/storyboard archive, chronicling ten years of animation history: https://sunbowmarvel...e.blogspot.com/

 


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Posted 01 February 2019 - 02:38 PM

Reading between the lines, it got sadder further along. "Transformers: A hit again in '87 because we brought Optimus back, please send your commercial invoices now!"

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 03:16 PM

The timing of this leads me to a theory.  Relations between Marvel and Sunbow were already strained by the end of 86 (Watch Bryce Malek's youtube video of the 1986 Marvel Christmas party and read between the lines of Margaret Loesch's speech).  What if Visionaries - a Sunbow/TMS co-production - getting the green light over Air Raiders (or at least perceived to be) was the final straw that led Marvel to say they would do no more Hasbro shows once the existing contracts were up.

Their troubled relationship spilled over into the marketing as well.

 

At first things seem swell:

-March 7th, 1983:

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-March 21st, 1983:

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-October 3rd, 1983:

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Then came that January 1984 advert featuring TF's. The 1st time Marvel gets no mention, but follow up Transformers had the MP logo.

And then came 1985 and Marvel gets ZERO mention on G.I. Joe ads, nor on JEM:

-April 15th, 1985:

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-September 16th, 1985:

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-November 18th, 1985:

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-December 30th, 1985:

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From 1986 and onward, Marvel would get credited again:

 

-April 14th, 1986:

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-September 8th, 1986:

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-December 29th, 1986:

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-April 20th, 1987:
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"In February, Claster & Sunbow led the ratings!"

Possible sign of hostility toward Marvel...

 

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-August 24th, 1987:

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-September 28th, 1987:

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-December 28th, 1987:

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