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@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

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Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.

@  Otaku : (14 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

So is that an occasion for congratulations or condolences, Telly?  I see it as a good thing, but that is a matter of personal preference; easier for me to keep straight who is who when the names don't change. XP

@  Telly : (14 February 2020 - 12:48 AM)

damn. ive been going by "telly" on here for nearly 14 years...

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I've seen it. It didn't really deliver on the title

@  Paladin : (11 February 2020 - 05:28 PM)

we don't need to see that. we're living it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 February 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Anyone seen an old British movie called 'The Earth dies screaming' it's like a Doctor Who serial minus the Doctor.

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Needs more zone defense. Call Scrapper

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2020 - 11:29 AM)

MORE POINTS FOR BLITZWING!

@  Donocropolis : (09 February 2020 - 09:33 AM)

MP-7 Thundercracker recovers....he's at the 40....the 20....AND HE SCORES!

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Reserved for Masterpiece Kup.

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MP-10 Convoy redecoed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2020 - 06:56 AM)

MP-9 Rodimus self-destructed.

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MP-5 Megatron removed.

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MP-50 Tigatron and MP-51 Arcee revealed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 February 2020 - 02:26 PM)

SkiNNEERRR

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 February 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Superintendent Chalmers is hilarious too, or was when he was played straight. "An unrelated article." "mm hm." "Within the banner headline."

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"I'm not a real Mister but I am a real Burns I am an actual Burns..."

@  Darth Gonzo : (06 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Optimus looks like his Siege figure. Maybe this will be canon to the Transformers ongoing comic series at the moment.

@  Cyoti : (06 February 2020 - 05:13 PM)

iirc megatron ended up in equestria at the end of gi joe v tfs

@  wonko the sane? : (06 February 2020 - 05:02 PM)

I doubt megatron will fall for that friendship stuff.

@  Darth Gonzo : (06 February 2020 - 02:04 PM)

My Little Pony/Transformers is really happening cool!

@  Paladin : (06 February 2020 - 12:49 PM)

I don't know...

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 February 2020 - 12:39 PM)

Okay, Mr. Burns. What's your first name?

@  Paladin : (06 February 2020 - 12:21 PM)

i believe you have a letter for me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (06 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

My name is Mr Burns.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (06 February 2020 - 11:52 AM)

*Walks in and immediately disappears into a bush like Homer Simpson.*

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 February 2020 - 05:05 AM)

Crossgrin OTP

@  TriBlurr : (05 February 2020 - 09:38 PM)

If anyone at IDW is reading this. Feel free to make that canon

@  TriBlurr : (05 February 2020 - 09:36 PM)

Sweet I can ship him with...*throws dart at board* Skullgrin??? Sure that works


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How the hell does the Predacon Alliance work?

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#1 That One Guy

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:15 PM

I've been having a lot of trouble lately figuring out just how the Predacon Alliance is supposed to function, particularly in the time period after Beast Machines and the Universe War. For context, there are a whopping four different main sects of Predacons, each headed by a different leader. There's Razorclaw and the original Predacons who are in charge of a fairly large secret army, there's the Tripredacus Council who appear to be the dominant force in the Alliance (and they head the Secret Police), there's Galvatron who apparently is in charge of Darkmount, the new Predacon capital, and there's Megatron, freshly returned from the dead and occupying a lofty position in the Predacon military. Can someone please explain how all these different groups interact with one another, because when trying to write a fairly organized Predacon rebellion against the Maximals, I can't figure out who is subordinate to who.

Oh, and then there are also the hundreds of freed Decepticon war prisoners that Thundercracker mentioned in the Wreckers Finale Part II, which I can't even bother to think about right now.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:35 PM

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:41 PM

Accurate.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:48 PM

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:48 PM

Alliance is two parties that aren't friends agreeing to work together one something, so this alliance of Predacons could simply be a non agression pat between the factions as they all have the same goal, currently, which is likely to overthrow the Maximals but having no centralised leadership means to me, they aren't as big a threat as they appear to be, they could be all bark and no bite!


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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:53 PM

The structure of the Predacon Alliance is never specified in the Beast Wars cartoon, which only tosses out the name as a vague governing body, providing no information on how or if it relates to the Tripredacus Council. 

 

I don't even know where most of the rest of the pieces of the puzzle you're referring to here even originate from, but I'm pretty sure you're working with as much information as is out there. Just fill-in the blanks however you like, this isn't some well-defined area of canon we're talking about here. Do whatever. 



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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:03 PM

I don't even know where most of the rest of the pieces of the puzzle you're referring to here even originate from


For context, Razorclaw's army was seem in the epilogue of Dawn of Future's Past. Sometime near the end of the Great War, he and his team founded the Predacons as a faction and nearly conquered Cybertron, but he was then assassinated by the Tripredacus Council and the war was lost.

Galvatron was originally the main villain for Beast Wars II, a Japanese anime running parallel to Beast Wars. In the west, he made a brief cameo in the Wreckers Finale Part II, where he and his brother, Megastorm, were building the city of Darkmount, boldly stating it would act as the new capital of the Predacons.

As for Megatron, he returned from the dead after Beast Machines along with Primal to fight in the Universe War. His revival wasn't known at first, allowing him to secretly gain a lofty position in the Predacon military hierarchy behind Primal's back. The two eventually joined forces to fight Unicron, but Primal expects hostilities to return once the Universe War ends.

Nobody really knows where the Tripredacus Council went after Beast Machines, so they're a complete mystery. Considering all three of the aforementioned Predacon sects hate the Council, they're probably dead.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:09 PM

Someone should have asked Thrustinator what happened in those ~10,000 extra years he lived after Beast Machines.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:13 PM

Someone should have asked Thrustinator what happened in those ~10,000 extra years he lived after Beast Machines.


Yes. So much yes.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:35 PM

Except the answer would be alternately "don't remember" and "who cares", then he'd shove the asker in a locker.


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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:46 PM

Probably right, Sipher. Actually, while you're here, I was curious as to whether or not you got the PM I sent a few days ago. Nothing major, just a question I had that I thought you may be able to answer.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:00 PM

I'll answer it for you: lime-green bikini briefs.



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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:07 PM

Badly.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:11 PM

Badly.


Accurate.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:29 PM

Considering this information is very sparse in official fiction, you might as well take artistic license and write it however you think it should work.



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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:50 PM

When at the point where there are four separate factions working against each other at once, is there really an alliance anymore?

 

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:25 PM

When at the point where there are four separate factions working against each other at once, is there really an alliance anymore?
 
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Nope! Not in any meaningful sense, anyhow. The real problem is trying to figure out how each clique would interact with one another. I'm shooting for a good ol' civil war between Maximals and Predacons, but given how divided the Alliance is (and how every single leader involved is as ambitious as the other, and debatably as intelligent), it's starting to look more like a WWII era China scenario, where one side is completely fragmented and disorganized and the other is overwhelmingly strong.

Razorclaw and Megatron probably have the best chances of actual victory (Razorclaw nearly conquered Cybertron and Megatron, y'know, DID), and the largest armies. Still, given a four way (or, if we exclude the Tripredacus, three way) civil war against the Maximals, the outcome doesn't look good, and the tension is somewhat minimized. Nobody was really afraid the scattered remnants of the Galactic Empire would defeat the New Republic, and the same applies here.

Oh, and in regards to the half a dozen other petty Predacon factions, just assume they died in a suicide bombing like the Decepticon Warlords in Wings Universe.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:17 PM

 

When at the point where there are four separate factions working against each other at once, is there really an alliance anymore?
 
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Nope! Not in any meaningful sense, anyhow. The real problem is trying to figure out how each clique would interact with one another. I'm shooting for a good ol' civil war between Maximals and Predacons, but given how divided the Alliance is (and how every single leader involved is as ambitious as the other, and debatably as intelligent), it's starting to look more like a WWII era China scenario, where one side is completely fragmented and disorganized and the other is overwhelmingly strong.

Razorclaw and Megatron probably have the best chances of actual victory (Razorclaw nearly conquered Cybertron and Megatron, y'know, DID), and the largest armies. Still, given a four way (or, if we exclude the Tripredacus, three way) civil war against the Maximals, the outcome doesn't look good, and the tension is somewhat minimized. Nobody was really afraid the scattered remnants of the Galactic Empire would defeat the New Republic, and the same applies here.

Oh, and in regards to the half a dozen other petty Predacon factions, just assume they died in a suicide bombing like the Decepticon Warlords in Wings Universe.

 

 

Predacon Civil War, anyone?


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:06 PM

I mean, a dysfunctional collection of people who hate each other, posititioning for power and undercutting each other at every opportunity sounds like the only believable outcome of any Predacon alliance.
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:19 PM

I mean, a dysfunctional collection of people who hate each other, posititioning for power and undercutting each other at every opportunity sounds like the only believable outcome of any Predacon alliance.

 

Maybe that's why G1 Megatron kept Starscream around, at least then he knows when to watch his back, taking the old saying we have, keep your friends close and your enemies closer!


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