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@  Ashley : (22 November 2019 - 02:12 AM)

what manufacturer is that? I'm trying to find a US source

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 November 2019 - 10:22 PM)

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/toys/action-figures-and-playsets/other-action-figures-and-playsets/alien-queen/p/185041

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 November 2019 - 10:22 PM)

I've already found the best toy of 2020: a foot tall, fully articulated (20 points) Alien Queen for a fraction of what Neca or anyone else would charge

@  Telly : (21 November 2019 - 09:46 PM)

no minerva toys until i get my devcon :p

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 November 2019 - 08:28 PM)

Paladin keeps saying this every time they reveal another toy of an early character, including the first Earthrise reveals even though that had Micromasters.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2019 - 03:20 PM)

I'll concede the Titan Masters, but Magnus Prime is an existing mold, Liokaiser is a set of repaints, and Metalhawk is a repaint and prominently featured in IDW.

@  Cyoti : (21 November 2019 - 12:14 PM)

And Ginrai aka "Magnus Prime, Metalhawk, "Liokaiser", etc. The real characters that Warden actually doesn't know about are the late EuroUK characters like the Turbomasters/Predators

@  Sabrblade : (21 November 2019 - 11:06 AM)

Warden and Friends did give us a Lione (Sawback) and a Shuffler

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2019 - 07:26 AM)

Or prominently featured in IDW, or an easy repaint of an existing toy.

@  Paladin : (21 November 2019 - 07:12 AM)

was she in the first 3 seasons of the cartoon? If not then she's on no one's list because they don't think she exists.

@  Cyoti : (20 November 2019 - 11:23 PM)

It's probably stuck on the low priority end of Warden's to-do list.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 November 2019 - 10:45 PM)

Because the only full-body Nightbeat was that Bumblebee with a new head one.

@  Bass X0 : (20 November 2019 - 04:14 PM)

Why has there been no new Minerva toys? I’m surprised at Takara. The Titan Master head doesn’t count.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

On my shelf I have Ginrai donning the Star Convoy armor.

@  Liege : (19 November 2019 - 07:42 AM)

That he is.

@  Benbot : (18 November 2019 - 04:01 PM)

And a good boy

@  Liege : (18 November 2019 - 09:19 AM)

Hound is at least a very good toy.

@  ThunderWear : (18 November 2019 - 09:11 AM)

Hound is the only other one that even comes close to Chromia in my area, and he ships in two separate waves.

@  Liege : (18 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

This might be how they finally get rid of all the Chromias. I've not seen a shelfwarmer like that in ages.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 08:26 PM)

It's a good deal if you want a full set of Refraktor (and if they have them at your location)

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2019 - 04:43 PM)

Here we can buy two and get one free, but at least two of them are gonna be the same toy, because lol distribution.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 01:01 PM)

In the U.K., it’s more like you but two, you only get one given how expensive they are.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Transformers are Buy 2 Get 1 free at Target this week.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 04:29 AM)

2019 has been one long South Park episode.

@  Sjogre : (16 November 2019 - 10:46 PM)

Okay, that actually sounds pretty fun.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 12:49 PM)

It was set in the forties, featured Nazi's as the villains and had Kiko fight mostly Ice Age animals and a mythical dragon that now ruled the island guarding Kongs treasure.

@  Paladin : (15 November 2019 - 11:37 AM)

and it was ALSO eleven hours long.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 10:55 AM)

In a alternate reality Peter Jackson made Son of Kong.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

To be fair to boba: everyone else to go into the sarlacc was a sacrifice. Stripped almost naked and tossed, and didn't have body armor, a jetpack and a weapon.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2019 - 06:54 AM)

Nah, he just has to keep up his plot insurance payments so he can shoot his way out of the Sarlacc again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.


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How the hell does the Predacon Alliance work?

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#1 That One Guy

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:15 PM

I've been having a lot of trouble lately figuring out just how the Predacon Alliance is supposed to function, particularly in the time period after Beast Machines and the Universe War. For context, there are a whopping four different main sects of Predacons, each headed by a different leader. There's Razorclaw and the original Predacons who are in charge of a fairly large secret army, there's the Tripredacus Council who appear to be the dominant force in the Alliance (and they head the Secret Police), there's Galvatron who apparently is in charge of Darkmount, the new Predacon capital, and there's Megatron, freshly returned from the dead and occupying a lofty position in the Predacon military. Can someone please explain how all these different groups interact with one another, because when trying to write a fairly organized Predacon rebellion against the Maximals, I can't figure out who is subordinate to who.

Oh, and then there are also the hundreds of freed Decepticon war prisoners that Thundercracker mentioned in the Wreckers Finale Part II, which I can't even bother to think about right now.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:35 PM

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:41 PM

Accurate.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:48 PM

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:48 PM

Alliance is two parties that aren't friends agreeing to work together one something, so this alliance of Predacons could simply be a non agression pat between the factions as they all have the same goal, currently, which is likely to overthrow the Maximals but having no centralised leadership means to me, they aren't as big a threat as they appear to be, they could be all bark and no bite!


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Posted 21 January 2019 - 04:53 PM

The structure of the Predacon Alliance is never specified in the Beast Wars cartoon, which only tosses out the name as a vague governing body, providing no information on how or if it relates to the Tripredacus Council. 

 

I don't even know where most of the rest of the pieces of the puzzle you're referring to here even originate from, but I'm pretty sure you're working with as much information as is out there. Just fill-in the blanks however you like, this isn't some well-defined area of canon we're talking about here. Do whatever. 



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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:03 PM

I don't even know where most of the rest of the pieces of the puzzle you're referring to here even originate from


For context, Razorclaw's army was seem in the epilogue of Dawn of Future's Past. Sometime near the end of the Great War, he and his team founded the Predacons as a faction and nearly conquered Cybertron, but he was then assassinated by the Tripredacus Council and the war was lost.

Galvatron was originally the main villain for Beast Wars II, a Japanese anime running parallel to Beast Wars. In the west, he made a brief cameo in the Wreckers Finale Part II, where he and his brother, Megastorm, were building the city of Darkmount, boldly stating it would act as the new capital of the Predacons.

As for Megatron, he returned from the dead after Beast Machines along with Primal to fight in the Universe War. His revival wasn't known at first, allowing him to secretly gain a lofty position in the Predacon military hierarchy behind Primal's back. The two eventually joined forces to fight Unicron, but Primal expects hostilities to return once the Universe War ends.

Nobody really knows where the Tripredacus Council went after Beast Machines, so they're a complete mystery. Considering all three of the aforementioned Predacon sects hate the Council, they're probably dead.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:09 PM

Someone should have asked Thrustinator what happened in those ~10,000 extra years he lived after Beast Machines.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:13 PM

Someone should have asked Thrustinator what happened in those ~10,000 extra years he lived after Beast Machines.


Yes. So much yes.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:35 PM

Except the answer would be alternately "don't remember" and "who cares", then he'd shove the asker in a locker.


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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:46 PM

Probably right, Sipher. Actually, while you're here, I was curious as to whether or not you got the PM I sent a few days ago. Nothing major, just a question I had that I thought you may be able to answer.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:00 PM

I'll answer it for you: lime-green bikini briefs.



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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:07 PM

Badly.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:11 PM

Badly.


Accurate.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:29 PM

Considering this information is very sparse in official fiction, you might as well take artistic license and write it however you think it should work.



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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:50 PM

When at the point where there are four separate factions working against each other at once, is there really an alliance anymore?

 

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:25 PM

When at the point where there are four separate factions working against each other at once, is there really an alliance anymore?
 
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Nope! Not in any meaningful sense, anyhow. The real problem is trying to figure out how each clique would interact with one another. I'm shooting for a good ol' civil war between Maximals and Predacons, but given how divided the Alliance is (and how every single leader involved is as ambitious as the other, and debatably as intelligent), it's starting to look more like a WWII era China scenario, where one side is completely fragmented and disorganized and the other is overwhelmingly strong.

Razorclaw and Megatron probably have the best chances of actual victory (Razorclaw nearly conquered Cybertron and Megatron, y'know, DID), and the largest armies. Still, given a four way (or, if we exclude the Tripredacus, three way) civil war against the Maximals, the outcome doesn't look good, and the tension is somewhat minimized. Nobody was really afraid the scattered remnants of the Galactic Empire would defeat the New Republic, and the same applies here.

Oh, and in regards to the half a dozen other petty Predacon factions, just assume they died in a suicide bombing like the Decepticon Warlords in Wings Universe.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 06:17 PM

 

When at the point where there are four separate factions working against each other at once, is there really an alliance anymore?
 
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Nope! Not in any meaningful sense, anyhow. The real problem is trying to figure out how each clique would interact with one another. I'm shooting for a good ol' civil war between Maximals and Predacons, but given how divided the Alliance is (and how every single leader involved is as ambitious as the other, and debatably as intelligent), it's starting to look more like a WWII era China scenario, where one side is completely fragmented and disorganized and the other is overwhelmingly strong.

Razorclaw and Megatron probably have the best chances of actual victory (Razorclaw nearly conquered Cybertron and Megatron, y'know, DID), and the largest armies. Still, given a four way (or, if we exclude the Tripredacus, three way) civil war against the Maximals, the outcome doesn't look good, and the tension is somewhat minimized. Nobody was really afraid the scattered remnants of the Galactic Empire would defeat the New Republic, and the same applies here.

Oh, and in regards to the half a dozen other petty Predacon factions, just assume they died in a suicide bombing like the Decepticon Warlords in Wings Universe.

 

 

Predacon Civil War, anyone?


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:06 PM

I mean, a dysfunctional collection of people who hate each other, posititioning for power and undercutting each other at every opportunity sounds like the only believable outcome of any Predacon alliance.
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:19 PM

I mean, a dysfunctional collection of people who hate each other, posititioning for power and undercutting each other at every opportunity sounds like the only believable outcome of any Predacon alliance.

 

Maybe that's why G1 Megatron kept Starscream around, at least then he knows when to watch his back, taking the old saying we have, keep your friends close and your enemies closer!


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