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@  Sabrblade : (18 July 2019 - 12:10 PM)

All this awesome SDCC news is really making these boards run slowly.

@  Bass X0 : (18 July 2019 - 07:54 AM)

Racism must be stopped. No matter the cost.

@  MEDdMI : (18 July 2019 - 07:49 AM)

Tine to stop buttering it up.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 July 2019 - 09:43 PM)

Well shucks.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 July 2019 - 08:14 PM)

The joke is a husk of its former self.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 01:15 PM)

Pop.

@  Shrug : (17 July 2019 - 10:15 AM)

Something something... corn bread?

@  MEDdMI : (17 July 2019 - 07:21 AM)

Ok, ok. Enough of the puns and let's all thank Kal for the amaizeing job he did.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 06:24 AM)

by now I think this jokes' been creamed.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

The kernel.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

Who gives the orders in cybernetic warfare?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:59 PM)

Zea mays

@  Xellos : (16 July 2019 - 09:53 PM)

Isn't that a kernel of truth.

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 08:43 PM)

huh. suddenly the Squawk is popping.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Not placing much stalk in this conversation.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 06:22 PM)

That's so corny.

@  Shrug : (16 July 2019 - 06:07 PM)

It's absurd how happy I am that a post of mine made the front page of Reddit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

Aww, shucks.

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:45 PM)

Not till I taste the corn

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 05:43 PM)

You guys aren't being very nice. You're supposed to tell me I did "good, really good!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:40 PM)

Just don't go beyond the rows.

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

Left over from the failed Beast Machines sequel, Beast Farmers

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

It's techno-organic corn

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:26 PM)

We have a cornfield? Can I get a few ears?

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:56 PM)

And lastly, if it becomes too much hassle to deal with - it might just get sent into the cornfield and replaced with a Discord box anyway. So cool it.

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Second thing is we do actually have the ability to ban users specifically from using Shoutbox if it's being abused like that

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Hey all - just a reminder and heads up. The Shoutbox has been kept here as a courtesy because it's what you folks like in lieu of Discord - but a few things to remember is that P&R should stay in P&R and isn't really something that needs to be dragged out here in the most public of spaces.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Done.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 10:25 AM)

You can make a new one. I doubt anybody would stop you.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 10:16 AM)

There was a thread but it appears to have disappeared. Might have been lost in one of the older forum sweeps.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 09:58 AM)

Yeah this is pretty much circumventing the fact that we have different rules for political talk.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2019 - 09:55 AM)

Okay, so, basically, can we not do politics in here anymore? I mean, considering how often @Nevermore, you talk about your work conditions, don't you think it's time for a dedicated thread in P&R?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:39 AM)

Scratch that; that's insulting to honest salads. Whatever that was was the text equivalent of hamburger.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:38 AM)

Would you like some dressing to go with your word salad?

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 09:34 AM)

yes; it now goes "shit piss hug *BLEEP* ^$@^ motherhuger **** turd fart encyclopedia & Socialism."

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:24 AM)

This is an American site, but isn't that unnecessarily severe language? IIRC it's one of the top four offensive pejoratives to English people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2019 - 08:52 AM)

It's amusing how so many (U.S.) wankers in this world love to whine "capitalism good socialism bad!" in the abstract while simultaneously pretending that megacorporations dominating de facto monopolies is anathema to the core capitalistic principle of competition benefits everyone.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 05:17 AM)

I know Shockwave's super mode is pretty lame and Magnus is kinda greebly but it's not that bad.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 July 2019 - 12:38 AM)

Though with the luck and caliber of leaders we've had of late in the darkest timeline, maybe it's too much to hope for.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 July 2019 - 12:36 AM)

Just like democracy, it's not perfect but better than the present alternatives. Capitalism as it's practiced today won't be able to weather the coming wave of automation, though. Best to plan for it and hope for a gentle transition rather than the aforementioned collapse

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 12:27 AM)

Capitalism is the worst amiright? Sent from my iPhone

@  Vexwing : (15 July 2019 - 11:24 PM)

Because the collapse is gonna be just great.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 July 2019 - 10:41 PM)

Let's hope this is late stage and we're on the cusp of something better.

@  abates : (15 July 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Late stage capitalism is the absolute best.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 01:33 PM)

So, welcome to all retail, everywhere.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Oh, and Greenpeace also conducted a protest at a German Amazon facility, to protest against Amazon's practice of throwing customer returns in the trash.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

Right, because with Amazon, it's just the employees that have to step in dog shit while having no space to breathe.[/slightexaggeration]

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 July 2019 - 01:03 PM)

At least I can use Amazon without losing the ability to breath or step in dog shit.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:58 PM)

Considering that Amazon is the new Walmart...

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 12:39 PM)

All of my best wishes go out to the brave women and men who have the balls (and ovaries) to go on strike at an Amazon facility in the US.


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How does the Shroud effect Transwarp technology?

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#1 That One Guy

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:12 AM

One result of the Shroud was that the barriers between universes were strengthened, making inter-dimensional travel much more difficult. Convensional inter-dimensional travel is done via passing through transwarp space, the in-between of all the Multiverse. Access to transwarp space is a vital aspect in most continuities for travel, usually by space bridges or transwarp themed tech. With the established strengthening in universal walls, however, would transwarp space itself become less accessible? Would technology like space bridges, warp gates, and transwarp drives still be effective, or rendered obsolete?

Now is where I focus solely on the Beast Era.

By the time of the Beast Era, the Maximal Imperium is implied to have a handful of colonies under it's control, hence the name Imperium, and these are likely maintained via transwarp tech, because trying to establish an interplanetary empire without cheats tends to be very, very difficult. If transwarp tech is rendered useless, then Cybertron (and any other transwarp using civilizations) is left isolated, cut off from her colonies, effectively shattering the entire Maximal Imperium and whatever holdings the Predacon Alliance may have. The ramifications of this could also lead to a total breakdown in galactic affairs, with trade shrinking massively and any other civilizations using transwarp space regularly totally collapsing. If this truly is the case, then I may have to rework the story I'm writing, because the colonial front and intergalactic relations are key aspects in the narrative.

Edited by That ONE Guy, 31 December 2018 - 01:18 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:35 AM

I doubt there was any intent in the concept of the Shroud of it impacting the ordinary means of space travel within a single universe. 



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Posted 31 December 2018 - 02:00 AM

Or you could completely ignore it.

 

 

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 02:30 AM

Or you could completely ignore it.
 
 
M "It's A Perfectly Viable Option" Sipher

Honestly what I probably would/am going to do.

I doubt there was any intent in the concept of the Shroud of it impacting the ordinary means of space travel within a single universe. 

Well, I suppose that Kils the conversation.

*ba dum tshhhhh*

Okay I'll leave now.

Edited by That ONE Guy, 31 December 2018 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 07:39 AM

From what little I honestly know of it, the out of universe reason for the Shroud was just to allow individual continuities to do their own thing - or maybe just internally rationalize the fact that they never stopped doing so. In that spirit, I think you could very well be justified in treating its effects in a given universe as precisely whatever they need to be for a given story, though it does seem to be retroactive (creating separate histories for singularities that precede it etc.) rather than an event that begins at a given point in that universe's time.
Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 07:51 AM

Correct. Transwarp, innerspace, micro-cosmic realities, Swindle's pocket dimensions, and things that exist within a given universe are unaffected.

The Shroud was a way to return things back the way they were before Club fiction got crazy with all that stuff. Since, well, no one else would likely take up the Multiversal rules as Forrest Lee and the old Hasbro guard laid it out for us. It had been three brand teams since then and IDW were already doing different things than the mainstream cartoons and movies, so it seemed best to take everything back to zero and let other writers tackle the multiverse (if they even want too, it's gotten to be a tad weathered and worn) without worrying about things that were increasingly becoming a challenge to keep interwoven.

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 08:23 AM

There is so much about Transformers that is fun and interesting and even well-written.

Why not focus on that?

You are obviously a good writer with an analytical mind. But you seem to start a lot of threads about abstract plot devices that have never made sense and that most people have deliberately ignored for years (or decades). There's just never going to be a deep discussion about that.

Ask questions about stuff people actually liked.

Edited by Thylacine 2000, 31 December 2018 - 08:32 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 08:26 AM

Let's not forget that Animated Swindle quite honestly has an entire transwarp-filled dimension inside his tummy whose space-time barriers he can willingly transcend by simply pulling open his chest drawer and reaching his hand or small-enough objects into and out of it.
 
I'm not so sure how the Shroud would effect this:
 
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Would it just lock up his chest from ever being easily-opened again?


Transwarp isn't impacted at all.

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 10:01 AM

I really don't think there's anything wrong with the guy asking questions about things he's curious about. There's no need to shout him down.


 

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:08 AM

Transwarp technology in the Beast Era was for mere space travel and time travel within its own universe. The Shroud made travel between each individual separate universe more difficult.

 

A person locked in a large spacious room is still free to move about the different areas of that room. Or less frighteningly, ordinary human beings may not be able to leave the gravitational confines of the planet Earth and venture out into outer space via their own power and will, but they can still traverse to different places on the planet Earth itself.


Edited by Sabrblade, 31 December 2018 - 11:08 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:39 AM

Alrighty, that should do it. Thanks to all involved, including Thylacine 2000. He's blunt and to the point, which I can respect. Anywho, I'm off to continue work on that story and get my tea together (I think I've left it steeping just a wee bit too long now).

Edited by That ONE Guy, 31 December 2018 - 11:44 AM.




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