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@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 09:34 PM)

What's your favorite cheese? I'm not sure, but it's hard to beat muenster.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:10 PM)

Man I wish IDW could do a season 2.5 with a few writers like Michael Charles Hill or Donald F Glut or Paul Davids involved.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 04:33 PM)

They were looking for Skids, but the animators forgot he existed again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 02:58 PM)

He regrouped with Omega Supreme, the Dinobots, Skyfire and the Protectobots.

@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 08:20 AM)

Did he get infected with the rest of the Autobots or did he smartly remain off-planet?

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 05:38 AM)

He really just went to the beach for a couple of days, then called it in. Who's gonna follow up on it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:05 AM)

Anyone really believe Cosmos searched far enough for more ingredient for Corrostop?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2019 - 03:48 AM)

Oh, we are pretty good at "forgetting" about that. Insisting on sending people home on their overtime, THEN suddenly rushing to do the "backlog" stuff when it's really overdue.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 December 2019 - 05:43 PM)

I've yet to find an organization which didn't have a backlog of "stuff" that needs to be done, but isn't important enough to put on the schedule proper.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 December 2019 - 05:01 PM)

I'm sure most good/bad (depending on your POV) bosses would be able to find something for the worker to do, in most cases, even if it's spending 8 hours pretending to push a broom around

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 December 2019 - 04:39 PM)

Still better than American jobs. x.x;

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 December 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure you've already mentioned this before. Especially that last one.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:05 AM)

That can be fun if you're strong-willed enough. "Hey, you want to go home? Overtime reduction, there's nothing to do..." - "Nah, not today. I want to work."

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:04 AM)

This applies to the field of work as well. Meaning, your boss orders you to show up for a full shift, you show up on time and are absolutely willing to work, and then your boss realizes he has no work for you, your boss has to pay you for a full shift even if you don't work at all.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:03 AM)

Fun fact: German law has a concept named "default in acceptance", which postulates that if there is a "service for payment" contract, the party that should provide the service correctly offers their due service, and the party that should pay fails to accept the service within due time, the second party still has to pay the first party even if there was no service delivered.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.


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How does the Shroud effect Transwarp technology?

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#1 That One Guy

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:12 AM

One result of the Shroud was that the barriers between universes were strengthened, making inter-dimensional travel much more difficult. Convensional inter-dimensional travel is done via passing through transwarp space, the in-between of all the Multiverse. Access to transwarp space is a vital aspect in most continuities for travel, usually by space bridges or transwarp themed tech. With the established strengthening in universal walls, however, would transwarp space itself become less accessible? Would technology like space bridges, warp gates, and transwarp drives still be effective, or rendered obsolete?

Now is where I focus solely on the Beast Era.

By the time of the Beast Era, the Maximal Imperium is implied to have a handful of colonies under it's control, hence the name Imperium, and these are likely maintained via transwarp tech, because trying to establish an interplanetary empire without cheats tends to be very, very difficult. If transwarp tech is rendered useless, then Cybertron (and any other transwarp using civilizations) is left isolated, cut off from her colonies, effectively shattering the entire Maximal Imperium and whatever holdings the Predacon Alliance may have. The ramifications of this could also lead to a total breakdown in galactic affairs, with trade shrinking massively and any other civilizations using transwarp space regularly totally collapsing. If this truly is the case, then I may have to rework the story I'm writing, because the colonial front and intergalactic relations are key aspects in the narrative.

Edited by That ONE Guy, 31 December 2018 - 01:18 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 01:35 AM

I doubt there was any intent in the concept of the Shroud of it impacting the ordinary means of space travel within a single universe. 



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Posted 31 December 2018 - 02:00 AM

Or you could completely ignore it.

 

 

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 02:30 AM

Or you could completely ignore it.
 
 
M "It's A Perfectly Viable Option" Sipher

Honestly what I probably would/am going to do.

I doubt there was any intent in the concept of the Shroud of it impacting the ordinary means of space travel within a single universe. 

Well, I suppose that Kils the conversation.

*ba dum tshhhhh*

Okay I'll leave now.

Edited by That ONE Guy, 31 December 2018 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 07:39 AM

From what little I honestly know of it, the out of universe reason for the Shroud was just to allow individual continuities to do their own thing - or maybe just internally rationalize the fact that they never stopped doing so. In that spirit, I think you could very well be justified in treating its effects in a given universe as precisely whatever they need to be for a given story, though it does seem to be retroactive (creating separate histories for singularities that precede it etc.) rather than an event that begins at a given point in that universe's time.
Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 07:51 AM

Correct. Transwarp, innerspace, micro-cosmic realities, Swindle's pocket dimensions, and things that exist within a given universe are unaffected.

The Shroud was a way to return things back the way they were before Club fiction got crazy with all that stuff. Since, well, no one else would likely take up the Multiversal rules as Forrest Lee and the old Hasbro guard laid it out for us. It had been three brand teams since then and IDW were already doing different things than the mainstream cartoons and movies, so it seemed best to take everything back to zero and let other writers tackle the multiverse (if they even want too, it's gotten to be a tad weathered and worn) without worrying about things that were increasingly becoming a challenge to keep interwoven.

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 08:23 AM

There is so much about Transformers that is fun and interesting and even well-written.

Why not focus on that?

You are obviously a good writer with an analytical mind. But you seem to start a lot of threads about abstract plot devices that have never made sense and that most people have deliberately ignored for years (or decades). There's just never going to be a deep discussion about that.

Ask questions about stuff people actually liked.

Edited by Thylacine 2000, 31 December 2018 - 08:32 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 08:26 AM

Let's not forget that Animated Swindle quite honestly has an entire transwarp-filled dimension inside his tummy whose space-time barriers he can willingly transcend by simply pulling open his chest drawer and reaching his hand or small-enough objects into and out of it.
 
I'm not so sure how the Shroud would effect this:
 
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Would it just lock up his chest from ever being easily-opened again?


Transwarp isn't impacted at all.

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 10:01 AM

I really don't think there's anything wrong with the guy asking questions about things he's curious about. There's no need to shout him down.


 

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:08 AM

Transwarp technology in the Beast Era was for mere space travel and time travel within its own universe. The Shroud made travel between each individual separate universe more difficult.

 

A person locked in a large spacious room is still free to move about the different areas of that room. Or less frighteningly, ordinary human beings may not be able to leave the gravitational confines of the planet Earth and venture out into outer space via their own power and will, but they can still traverse to different places on the planet Earth itself.


Edited by Sabrblade, 31 December 2018 - 11:08 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:39 AM

Alrighty, that should do it. Thanks to all involved, including Thylacine 2000. He's blunt and to the point, which I can respect. Anywho, I'm off to continue work on that story and get my tea together (I think I've left it steeping just a wee bit too long now).

Edited by That ONE Guy, 31 December 2018 - 11:44 AM.




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