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@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:37 AM)

Either way, I'd stick to the definitions of the people who actually work in the field and know what they're talking about over incredibly loose unhelpful ones 

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:34 AM)

Which fossils and genetic sequencing proved were quite different from wolves as we know them. Which is kind of the point, since while domesticated organisms changed genetically, so have their wild counterparts.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:34 AM)

I mean, even more extreme would be to ask if cows would turn back into aurochs. They'd go feral or exitinct, but they wouldn't revert.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:33 AM)

Don't be ridiculous. The domesticated dog wasn't derived from the modern wolf. Both descended from a common ancestor

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:33 AM)

Then they are still Geneticly modified. ;P I mean hell, in a lot of cases, there is very little difference between removing a gene and making it dormant. Anyways. Gotta run, stuff to do right now. Have fun.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:32 AM)

The ones that survived would be more wolf like, but they wouldn't be wolves. And in a lot of cases without human intervention most of the heavily modified animals and plants wouldn't survive a "few generations".

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:31 AM)

Are you saying, given a few years (relativily speaking) of no humans, dogs will return to wolves?

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:30 AM)

Within a few generations without human intervention, the same traits resurface. because again, the genes aren't changed. Only the population.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:28 AM)

The genes for those traits are still present though. You're not manipulating the genotype, rather than the phenotype of the population.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:26 AM)

The fact that it's a more indirect method compared to, say, CRISPR is irrelevant.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Selective breeding is a form of genetic manipulation, since you're restricting or eliminating unfavored genetic patterns from being expressed in the target organisms.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:25 AM)

As it should be... People whine about GMO, but most of it is because they don't understand that biotech is usually just a faster way of doing the exact same thing thousands of years of crossbreading does.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:20 AM)

You can call it whatever you like, but again, that definition is so wide as to be worthless and few people would agree with the definition.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:20 AM)

The commonly accepted definition of "genetic modification" by the scientific community involves biotechnology and direct manipulation of genetic material

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:13 AM)

But.. While slower.. That's -exactly- what crossbreeding is.. Genetic modification.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:02 AM)

Which is patently ridiculous. They didn't modify the genetic makeup of these organisms; just manipulated the odds of traits deemed as favorable being expressed. 

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 07:53 AM)

By that definition, literally everything that humans have domesticated is a GMO.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 07:44 AM)

Why? It's completely geneticly modified to be almost completely distinct from what a real banana is.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:52 AM)

By looser definitions of GMO. So loose as to be worthless pretty much.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 06:35 AM)

So.. All banannas that anyone eats.. organic or not.. is a GMO..

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 06:23 AM)

Aren't they usually called palatains? But yeah, the only reason those cultivars survive at all is because of humans.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:16 AM)

That said, there are still wild banana plants which do reproduce sexually. If you don't mind gigantic seeds in them.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:16 AM)

This makes them highly susceptible to disease due to the stagnant genetic pool and inability to adapt.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:15 AM)

The domesticated kind reproduced asexually, meaning that the ones present today have the genetics of the same banana plants circa whenever bananas were domesticated

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 January 2019 - 04:53 AM)

Why would they be?

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2019 - 04:07 AM)

Shouldn't banana's be extinct now?

@  MEDdMI : (22 January 2019 - 11:38 PM)

:p You leave my male harem alone.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 11:27 PM)

Yeah, but unfortunately, it was Fire Emblem Fates.

@  MEDdMI : (22 January 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Fire Emblem Fates didn't force the gay pairings to have kids, not even for adoption. Granted, there were only 2 canon gay/bi options amoungst a sea of hetero, but still.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 10:27 PM)

It pissed off more people than usual since when the game was getting hyped much was made that you could have your character be gay as the first of May, and also the fact that the achievement for that event in the DLC was called "Growing Up"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 10:19 PM)

Never played the game, but that works as well! Textbook mindless natalism.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 10:15 PM)

Huh, I figured you were talking about that Assassins Creed Oddessy DLC that forces your character to have a kid regardless of your choices, previous behaviour, or current situation.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:16 PM)

Some context: I am bemoaning the fact that Modern Family is currently demonstrating why it should have already ended. Because not only it is making its annoying characters even worse, but Haley's storyline is taking her in a direction I hate.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:08 PM)

So when a lazy cop-out in the story happens, I'm going to object to the shoehorning.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:05 PM)

I think you misunderstand me. History is rife with instances wherein having children turned out not to be the right decision, and people with normal intelligence saw it coming. So people like myself find it infurating when television writers broadly pretend this doesn't happen.

@  Shrug : (22 January 2019 - 09:02 PM)

So it's not weird that it shows up in a lot of fiction. Since it shows up in a lot of nonfiction.

@  Shrug : (22 January 2019 - 09:01 PM)

But you know, like... the majority of people do it.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 08:49 PM)

And no characters call out this course of action for the stupidity it is. Believe it or not, not everyone is cut out to have kids, and having children is not an extraordinary life accomplishment.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 08:48 PM)

Yup. Like writers knocking up a (usually female) character for no good reason, often when said character has not previously expressed the desire for children, or children would heavily set back their life plans, or the other biological parent is not a good relationship partner.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 07:29 PM)

I mean, there's more to it, and varying levels of related concepts and blah blah blah, but I'm not gonna go further in the shoutbox.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 07:27 PM)

It's the "everyone's gotta make babies" school of thought. It varies but in media it manifests as "all characters end up married with kids or dead". For contrast an anti-natalist concept would be China's One Child policy.

@  Locoman : (22 January 2019 - 06:28 PM)

.... pro-natalist?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Pro-natalist clichés in fiction are overrated. But no Hollywood writer can come up with new ideas. Argh.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 10:05 AM)

How does the giant gimmicky Bumblebee toy have such an incredible leg transformation compared to the MPM

@  lastmaximal : (22 January 2019 - 09:27 AM)

I mean it's Vigo. We are like the buzzing of flies to him.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 05:51 AM)

Perfectly. His talent is only surpassed by Tommy Wiseau

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2019 - 04:57 AM)

How well he can play them is another story.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 04:34 AM)

Blasphemy. Nicolas Cage can play anybody.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 03:34 AM)

I'm just glad we're in a timeline where Nicolas Cage was too busy to play Aragorn in Lord of the Rings. As much as I may like Cage, there was no way he could have done that and Viggo was infintely better for the part.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 02:30 AM)

I want to see the timeline where Nicolas Cage was cast as Iron Man


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#1 Pale Rider

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 05:58 PM

I'm sure some of you know what I mean.  After a while, your collection of movies, TV shows, books, comics and video games exceeds the amount of time or energy that you have to consume it all and then it just keeps growing and growing to a point where you can no longer decide what to read/watch/play next.  Or am I the only one with this problem?


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Posted 30 December 2018 - 06:42 PM

I bought my wife the DVD Push when we first started dating. She watched it, handed it to me, and begged me to watch it myself. I promised her I would.

 

That was nine years ago. The pile hasn't gotten any smaller since.


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Your fever dream, can't you see it getting closer / Just surrender 'cause you feel the feeling taking over
It's fire, it's freedom, it's flooding open / It's a preacher in the pulpit and you'll find devotion
There's something breaking at the brick of every wall, it's holding All that you know
So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 07:45 PM

Do you have a book shelf full of physical media or have you gone mostly digital?



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Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:26 PM

It's videogames for me this year. I'm in the middle of Route C of NieR: Automata and oh my god I'm freaking out at how great this game is. Then I have the DLC to Xenoblade 2 to go. I still need to get the Royal Pack for FFXV, that'll probably happen when Episode Ardyn nears release. January has Kingdom Hearts 3 looming. I still have to do the Story Mode for SoulCalibur VI. And I still need to do Dragonball FighterZ Story Mode as well.


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#5 Rust

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:33 PM



Do you have a book shelf full of physical media or have you gone mostly digital?

 

Book Shelves. I made a decree about five years ago to stop buying new media until I've worked through the pile.

 

*Laughs in Procrastinator*


Don't fight it, it's coming for you, running at ya / It's only this moment, don't care what comes after
Your fever dream, can't you see it getting closer / Just surrender 'cause you feel the feeling taking over
It's fire, it's freedom, it's flooding open / It's a preacher in the pulpit and you'll find devotion
There's something breaking at the brick of every wall, it's holding All that you know
So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:36 PM

Nier is so good

 

Anyway Im kinda caught up game wise

anime wise after Bloom into you its my X-Mas gift Bubblegum Crisis

 

TV shows Still need to finish Voltron S8 and Sabrina


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Posted 30 December 2018 - 11:49 PM

 


Do you have a book shelf full of physical media or have you gone mostly digital?

 

Book Shelves. I made a decree about five years ago to stop buying new media until I've worked through the pile.

 

*Laughs in Procrastinator*

 

How long did the decree actually last?



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Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:16 AM

Books, films, TV shows, I'm fine.

 

Video games... I bought two PS2 titles a few years ago... I think they're Onimusha 2 and 3. Never even took em out of the shrinkwrap. They were dirt cheap though.

 

 

Now... D&D miniatures to paint... Oh boy, that, I have a lot to paint. A lot. A loooooooooooooooot.


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Posted 31 December 2018 - 03:30 PM

My backlog is going to take more than one lifetime to clear. I get to make some very slow progress on TV shows and video games, but comic books and movies are just piling up ridiculously thanks to a combination of infrequently being in the mood to watch movies and the house never being quiet enough to enjoy a comic.



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Posted 31 December 2018 - 05:11 PM

 

 


Do you have a book shelf full of physical media or have you gone mostly digital?

 

Book Shelves. I made a decree about five years ago to stop buying new media until I've worked through the pile.

 

*Laughs in Procrastinator*

 

How long did the decree actually last?

 

 

It's held more or less. Only really the Marvel catalog has been added to the pile on that front.

 

Honestly, delving through the pile has been a long standing goal of mine in the form of a "Late to the Party" review show. But as with everything, that too has been shelved.


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So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 01:00 AM

My backlog's so bad I don't even know what's in it. Before I went broke I used to have a bad habit of buying movies by the boxload.

 

That isn't why I went broke but It didn't help.


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Posted 01 January 2019 - 01:15 AM

I could probably finish all the media in my backlog if I dedicate like a whole year to it and not start anything else but that sounds like a bit much.

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 01:36 AM

Buried on almost all fronts except for podcasts, I drive a lot for work so it's hard to actually build up much of a backlog for long. I don't care for audiobooks so unfortunately I can't two kill two birds with one stone with those. The rest I can't imagine ever getting caught up on any of it, but that's a good problem to have!

 

I've only bought a relative handful of games over the last two years just because there's so many yet to be played in my Steam and GOG libraries that there's not much point buying additional stuff right now unless it's something I'd play right this second like Mount & Blade: Bannerlord (if it ever actually gets released.) And I've sat out the current generation of consoles; heaven help me if I need to get caught up on those, too.

 

Movies, TV, and anime are really piling up because right now I'm in a temporary set up. My brother and I bought a property with a couple houses so I'm hanging out in his until mine is done being remodeled which has been one speed bump after another but I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. Another aim is we're going to convert one of the outbuildings into a home theater. So since I'm just watching stuff on a 23 inch monitor right now I've limited what I watch quite a bit and am saving most of it for when I have a real set up in my house or the grand prize in a couple years, the theater room. I stopped streaming 15 minutes into the original Clash of the Titans the other night because I'd never seen it before, but was really digging it and want to watch on it something better than my monitor.

 

Which is admittedly silly, because with my luck when things are all ready to go I'll choke on some popcorn and die or something.



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Posted 01 January 2019 - 09:45 PM

My backlog is in toys, which is pretty bad, since they don't have a runtime.

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 09:55 PM


Mount & Blade: Bannerlord (if it ever actually gets released.)

 

Kingdom Come: Deliverance is actually scratching that itch surprisingly well for me. It's not 1 for 1, but it's something.


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Posted 01 January 2019 - 11:22 PM

I think this somewhat illustrates how by backlog makes me feel.

 

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 11:46 PM

It makes you feel indestructible? :???



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:15 AM

Yes, that'll do.



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 01:33 PM

I've got Ultraman Dyna and most of Cosmos to watch, but MOTW Ultraman isn't something I can binge too well without multitasking.. well, with some exceptions anyways.  *eyes Mebius*  I also keep meaning to go watch Orville but have yet to get around to it.  That's about it show-wise, unless I get around to go back to the showa Kamen Rider series, but I sort of fell off that boat a while ago.

 

Game-wise I do have some I never played, but I don't have any intentions of playing a bunch of them either, just got them because they were free just in case. Starlink was the biggest one, and I beat that over my Christmas break from work. I suppose there's my way too many alts on Star Trek Online(which I picked up again recently) but I'm managing that by only doing a few specific things on them that are time-gated, and focusing on one thing at a time. It has made me remember why I really got to hate doing Admiralty on all my alts though.



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Posted 04 January 2019 - 11:07 AM

Some of you people need much larger backlogs.





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