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@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2019 - 03:47 PM)

LOL bananas

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:37 AM)

Either way, I'd stick to the definitions of the people who actually work in the field and know what they're talking about over incredibly loose unhelpful ones 

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:34 AM)

Which fossils and genetic sequencing proved were quite different from wolves as we know them. Which is kind of the point, since while domesticated organisms changed genetically, so have their wild counterparts.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:34 AM)

I mean, even more extreme would be to ask if cows would turn back into aurochs. They'd go feral or exitinct, but they wouldn't revert.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:33 AM)

Don't be ridiculous. The domesticated dog wasn't derived from the modern wolf. Both descended from a common ancestor

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:33 AM)

Then they are still Geneticly modified. ;P I mean hell, in a lot of cases, there is very little difference between removing a gene and making it dormant. Anyways. Gotta run, stuff to do right now. Have fun.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:32 AM)

The ones that survived would be more wolf like, but they wouldn't be wolves. And in a lot of cases without human intervention most of the heavily modified animals and plants wouldn't survive a "few generations".

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:31 AM)

Are you saying, given a few years (relativily speaking) of no humans, dogs will return to wolves?

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:30 AM)

Within a few generations without human intervention, the same traits resurface. because again, the genes aren't changed. Only the population.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:28 AM)

The genes for those traits are still present though. You're not manipulating the genotype, rather than the phenotype of the population.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:26 AM)

The fact that it's a more indirect method compared to, say, CRISPR is irrelevant.

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Selective breeding is a form of genetic manipulation, since you're restricting or eliminating unfavored genetic patterns from being expressed in the target organisms.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:25 AM)

As it should be... People whine about GMO, but most of it is because they don't understand that biotech is usually just a faster way of doing the exact same thing thousands of years of crossbreading does.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:20 AM)

You can call it whatever you like, but again, that definition is so wide as to be worthless and few people would agree with the definition.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:20 AM)

The commonly accepted definition of "genetic modification" by the scientific community involves biotechnology and direct manipulation of genetic material

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 08:13 AM)

But.. While slower.. That's -exactly- what crossbreeding is.. Genetic modification.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 08:02 AM)

Which is patently ridiculous. They didn't modify the genetic makeup of these organisms; just manipulated the odds of traits deemed as favorable being expressed. 

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 07:53 AM)

By that definition, literally everything that humans have domesticated is a GMO.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 07:44 AM)

Why? It's completely geneticly modified to be almost completely distinct from what a real banana is.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:52 AM)

By looser definitions of GMO. So loose as to be worthless pretty much.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2019 - 06:35 AM)

So.. All banannas that anyone eats.. organic or not.. is a GMO..

@  Pennpenn : (23 January 2019 - 06:23 AM)

Aren't they usually called palatains? But yeah, the only reason those cultivars survive at all is because of humans.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:16 AM)

That said, there are still wild banana plants which do reproduce sexually. If you don't mind gigantic seeds in them.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:16 AM)

This makes them highly susceptible to disease due to the stagnant genetic pool and inability to adapt.

@  unluckiness : (23 January 2019 - 06:15 AM)

The domesticated kind reproduced asexually, meaning that the ones present today have the genetics of the same banana plants circa whenever bananas were domesticated

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 January 2019 - 04:53 AM)

Why would they be?

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2019 - 04:07 AM)

Shouldn't banana's be extinct now?

@  MEDdMI : (22 January 2019 - 11:38 PM)

:p You leave my male harem alone.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 11:27 PM)

Yeah, but unfortunately, it was Fire Emblem Fates.

@  MEDdMI : (22 January 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Fire Emblem Fates didn't force the gay pairings to have kids, not even for adoption. Granted, there were only 2 canon gay/bi options amoungst a sea of hetero, but still.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 10:27 PM)

It pissed off more people than usual since when the game was getting hyped much was made that you could have your character be gay as the first of May, and also the fact that the achievement for that event in the DLC was called "Growing Up"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 10:19 PM)

Never played the game, but that works as well! Textbook mindless natalism.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 10:15 PM)

Huh, I figured you were talking about that Assassins Creed Oddessy DLC that forces your character to have a kid regardless of your choices, previous behaviour, or current situation.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:16 PM)

Some context: I am bemoaning the fact that Modern Family is currently demonstrating why it should have already ended. Because not only it is making its annoying characters even worse, but Haley's storyline is taking her in a direction I hate.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:08 PM)

So when a lazy cop-out in the story happens, I'm going to object to the shoehorning.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 09:05 PM)

I think you misunderstand me. History is rife with instances wherein having children turned out not to be the right decision, and people with normal intelligence saw it coming. So people like myself find it infurating when television writers broadly pretend this doesn't happen.

@  Shrug : (22 January 2019 - 09:02 PM)

So it's not weird that it shows up in a lot of fiction. Since it shows up in a lot of nonfiction.

@  Shrug : (22 January 2019 - 09:01 PM)

But you know, like... the majority of people do it.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 08:49 PM)

And no characters call out this course of action for the stupidity it is. Believe it or not, not everyone is cut out to have kids, and having children is not an extraordinary life accomplishment.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 08:48 PM)

Yup. Like writers knocking up a (usually female) character for no good reason, often when said character has not previously expressed the desire for children, or children would heavily set back their life plans, or the other biological parent is not a good relationship partner.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 07:29 PM)

I mean, there's more to it, and varying levels of related concepts and blah blah blah, but I'm not gonna go further in the shoutbox.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 07:27 PM)

It's the "everyone's gotta make babies" school of thought. It varies but in media it manifests as "all characters end up married with kids or dead". For contrast an anti-natalist concept would be China's One Child policy.

@  Locoman : (22 January 2019 - 06:28 PM)

.... pro-natalist?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Pro-natalist clichés in fiction are overrated. But no Hollywood writer can come up with new ideas. Argh.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 10:05 AM)

How does the giant gimmicky Bumblebee toy have such an incredible leg transformation compared to the MPM

@  lastmaximal : (22 January 2019 - 09:27 AM)

I mean it's Vigo. We are like the buzzing of flies to him.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 05:51 AM)

Perfectly. His talent is only surpassed by Tommy Wiseau

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2019 - 04:57 AM)

How well he can play them is another story.

@  unluckiness : (22 January 2019 - 04:34 AM)

Blasphemy. Nicolas Cage can play anybody.

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2019 - 03:34 AM)

I'm just glad we're in a timeline where Nicolas Cage was too busy to play Aragorn in Lord of the Rings. As much as I may like Cage, there was no way he could have done that and Viggo was infintely better for the part.


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Favorite movies of 1993 anyone?


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#1 Egon1982

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 04:05 PM

The year 1993 has turned 25 and i have great fond memories of that year even when i was 11 seeing Jurassic Park on the big screen 5 times and all that.

 

My top 25:

1. Jurassic Park.

2. Hot Shots Part Deux.

3. Groundhog Day.

4. Demolition Man.

5. Hard Target.

6. Cliffhanger.

7. Cronos.

8. The Nightmare Before Christmas.

9. Batman Mask of the Phantasm.

10. Mrs Doubtfire.

11. Ninja Scroll.

12. The Fugitive.

13. Tombstone.

14. Dazed and Confused.

15. Crime Story.

16. So I married an Axe Murderer.

17. True Romance.

18. The Sandlot.

19. Grumpy Old Men.

20. The Dark Half.

21. Falling Down.

22. Freaked.

23. Fire in the Sky.

24. Matinee.

25. Carlito's Way.

 

 

Honorable mentions:

Dave.

Schindler's List.

Godzilla vs Mechazilla.

Last Action Hero.

Iron Monkey.

Needful Things.

Dario Argento's Trauma.

Wayne's World 2.

Guilty pleasures:

Cannibal the musical.

Son in Law.

Return of the Living Dead 3.

Jason Goes to Hell.

Robin Hood Men in Tights.


Edited by Egon1982, 27 December 2018 - 10:06 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 04:43 PM

I'm gonna say Groundhog Day. You know the movie where the same thing happens over and over and over and over and over and over again.

It's basically like what must be going on in Spiderman 's head. "Man I keep fighting Green Goblin, it's like he keeps coming back with the exact same schemes! So predictable..."

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 04:59 PM

I'm gonna say Groundhog Day. You know the movie where the same thing happens over and over and over and over and over and over again.

It's basically like what must be going on in Spiderman 's head. "Man I keep fighting Green Goblin, it's like he keeps coming back with the exact same schemes! So predictable..."

Brilliant movie, saw that in theaters when i was turning 11 and loved it since



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 06:42 PM

The year 1993 has turned 25 and i have great fond memories of that year even when i was 12 seeing Jurassic Park on the big screen 5 times and all that.

 

My top 25:

1. Jurassic Park.

2. Hot Shots Part Deux.

3. Groundhog Day.

4. Demolition Man.

5. Hard Target.

6. Cliffhanger.

7. Cronos.

8. The Nightmare Before Christmas.

9. Batman Mask of the Phantasm.

10. Mrs Doubtfire.

11. Ninja Scroll.

12. The Fugitive.

13. Tombstone.

14. Dazed and Confused.

15. Crime Story.

16. So I married an Axe Murderer.

17. True Romance.

18. The Sandlot.

19. Grumpy Old Men.

20. The Dark Half.

21. Falling Down.

22. Freaked.

23. Fire in the Sky.

24. Matinee.

25. Carlito's Way.

 

 

Honorable mentions:

Dave.

Schindler's List.

Godzilla vs Mechazilla.

Last Action Hero.

Iron Monkey.

Needful Things.

Dario Argento's Trauma.

Wayne's World 2.

Guilty pleasures:

Cannibal the musical.

Son in Law.

Return of the Living Dead 3.

Jason Goes to Hell.

Robin Hood Men in Tights.

 

soooo...pretty much every movie that came out in 93 then


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#5 Teufel

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 07:54 PM

Looking forward to the 1997 thread. Only a few more years until its 25th anniversary.


Edited by Teufel, 26 December 2018 - 08:02 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2018 - 11:36 AM

Demolition Man easily


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Posted 27 December 2018 - 01:54 PM

Man, 1993 was a solid year.



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Posted 27 December 2018 - 04:41 PM

Demolition Man easily

Yeah, I did not see that coming at all, what with the constant quoting of the movie all the time at work.

 

You know I'm picking, tec.



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Posted 27 December 2018 - 04:47 PM

Looking through https://en.wikipedia...ki/1993_in_film, I'd say these are movies I loved, and have seen multiple times:

 

Groundhog Day

Army of Darkness

Falling Down

Jurassic Park

In The Line Of Fire

The Fugitive

The Nightmare Before Christmas

 

And these were fantastic, but lord I don't ever want to watch them again:

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 10:07 PM

Demolition Man easily

Saw that in theaters at 11 and one of my fave sci-fi movies



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Posted 29 December 2018 - 02:49 PM

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:32 PM

Looking through https://en.wikipedia...ki/1993_in_film, I'd say these are movies I loved, and have seen multiple times:

 

Groundhog Day

Army of Darkness

Falling Down

Jurassic Park

In The Line Of Fire

The Fugitive

The Nightmare Before Christmas

 

And these were fantastic, but lord I don't ever want to watch them again:

Schindler's List

What's Eating Gilbert Grape

Army of Darkness is actually 1992



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Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:26 AM

Mine are Falling Down and Jurassic Park.


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 11:11 PM

Tombstone. One of my favorite western films ever. Such a great cast and entertaining film. Val Kilmer is at his best for this role, and I can quote you a dozen lines from this movie and I haven't seen it in years.

 

Jurassic Park. Classic film that I saw multiple times with my family. This film is ground breaking on so many levels and all I can say is Clever girl. 

 

Groundhog day.  A great Bill Murray film. I love the premise of the story and the fact that they don't explain how it is all happening. IN the end I love how he is a completely different person. 

 

Mrs Doubtfire. To me, this is the Robin Williams film. It is a great story with a non-happy ending that teaches kids of my day that Life doesn't always have to be the mega happy ending. 

 

Loaded Weapon 1. Long before the days when Parody films were worn out, this film was hilarious! I wish that they would make a sequel to it. 

 

The Beverly Hilliblies. Only being mildly aware of the show, this movie and its great cast, are what I think of instead of the show. The fact that it is one actress shy of a 9 to 5 reuniuon is cool too. 

 

Batman Mask of the Phantasm. I didn't see this much as a kid, but as an adult, I love this film. it probably is the best Batman film ever made, including the live action films. 

 

The Fugitive. Tommy Lee Jones and Harrison Ford rock this film. 

 

 

Honorable mentions:

Rising Sun

Amos and Andrew
Fatal Instinct

Another Stakeout

Rookie of the year

Hotshots Part duex

Cool runnings

Homeward bound

Robin Hood Men in tights

Homeward Bound

Demolition Man


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 11:30 PM

Dude, major bonus points for mentioning Loaded Weapon 1. That is so underrated. So many funny gags and what a cast, including the cameos.



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Posted 13 January 2019 - 10:04 AM

Why isn't Ninja Scroll in guilty pleasure... *Remembers who Egon probably is* Oh. Right.



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Posted 15 January 2019 - 09:26 PM

Robin Hood: Men in Tights is a masterpiece.

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Posted Today, 02:12 PM

Why isn't Ninja Scroll in guilty pleasure... *Remembers who Egon probably is* Oh. Right.

Why guilty pleasure? it's an awesome badass movie and my fave anime movie since i was 15 and one of my fave fantasy films.


Edited by Egon1982, Today, 02:13 PM.




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