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@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (26 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm Making The TF Roll Out Short "Gotta Go Fast!"

@  Benbot : (26 November 2019 - 12:52 PM)

That's what I was hoping for. But here I am, at work the following day.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

You say "die in bed" and I'm thinking "why is that a problem?".

@  fourteenwings : (26 November 2019 - 07:06 AM)

If you don't get out of bed ever your muscles will lock in super-uncomfortable ways and you may get blood clots

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:53 PM)

You did nothing, and so rocks fall down and you die.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 08:35 PM)

But that's not you doing something, that's something being done to you.

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:28 PM)

Unless a meteor crashes down on your bed while you're in it.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 07:08 PM)

I've been trying for the last few hours to find an argument to counter this... and I can't do it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 03:32 PM)

The most dangerous thing you can do is get out of bed in the morning. Everything else that happens is a consequence of that one terrible, terrible decision.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Driving, by itself, is dangerous. Anything done to compromise the concentration of the pilot just makes things worse.

@  Benbot : (25 November 2019 - 12:46 PM)

Actually, I think you could make a reasonable argument for saying driving with glasses is dangerous. That is, more dangerous than driving with contacts or perfect vision. You have poor peripheral vision with glasses.

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Hasbro legally takes down unspecified counterfeit products in China

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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 03:30 PM





If I am correctly interpreting this legalese to refer to KO Transformers.....well, I guess there will be plenty of terrified screeching on TFW2005 for the time being.

Edited by SHIELD Agent 47, 25 December 2018 - 04:41 PM.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:19 PM

well, I guess there will be plenty of terrified screeching on TFW2005 for the time being.


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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:35 PM

So it's a win all around.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:37 PM

So it's a win all around.


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 05:47 PM

It's a Christmas miracle!

EDIT- TFW's hilarious right now btw. Between posts going "take with a grain of salt!!!!" and "it's just a token gesture!"? It's just a wave of denial.

Edited by LordGigaIce, 25 December 2018 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:11 PM

Prison, huh?


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:15 PM

Are those sold in fake Transformers packaging? I assumed the oversize KOs didn't do that.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:22 PM

Prison, huh?


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:23 PM

I have to wonder what the straw that broke the camel's back here was.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:33 PM

Bootleg Masterpieces. This is China, so a chunk of those funds would have gone to Hasbro Asia.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:38 PM

This isn't about 3rd party. This is about trademarks, which means items packaged as Transformers. Fake Masterpiece seems the most likely, maybe those fake G1 reissues too.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 11:06 PM

The company that got ahold of MP Megatron's CAD file that had the + parts before they were revealed as well as his still to be released gun hand from Transport to Oblivion.


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 11:29 PM

BW Megatron.

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 08:21 AM

Counterfeit junk everywhere, ruined by this lawsuit.

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 07:17 PM

Yeah, this was stated to be about fake TF products, labeled as the real thing. You can make all the KOs and 3rd Party all you want, but slap the Tranformers name on it and youre done.

Edited by Rodimus Supreme, 27 December 2018 - 07:17 PM.

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 08:22 PM

I do kind of wonder if there may be more to it than...there first appears to be. Like the indicia in a comic says:


TRANSFORMERS, and all related character names and the distinctive likenesses thereof are trademarks of Hasbro, Inc.

It seems reasonable that Hasbro could argue the designs of other 3P toys are infringing on the "distinctive likenesses" of the characters they have trademarked. That would actually fit a bit more with the claim in the press release that they're combating "the manufacturing and distribution of counterfeit products" -- if it ultimately just means that "counterfeiters" can get around it by changing the names, it doesn't seem like that much of a victory. (And the actual designs of the toys would be covered by copyright or patent, not trademark law, if I'm not mistaken, though this stuff is confusing.)


I'm guessing this hasn't hit the 3P companies that don't sell their products as Transformers *yet* (seems like we would have heard about it and it would have had a chilling effect on other such companies) but I don't think we can be sure that it will stay that way.

Edited by Gryllid, 27 December 2018 - 08:22 PM.

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 11:45 PM

"Counterfeiting" is making fakes with the intent of passing them off as genuine.

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 10:54 AM

Yeah, but...it's a press release. I don't know if I'd necessarily expect the person writing it to make the distinction between "knockoff Transformers" and "totally original character Sonicwave, wink-wink".


Again, I do think this particular case is probably about the fake MPs and whatever, but I can also really easily see a scenario where it isn't. If not now, then maybe soon.


I mean, if I were Flame Toys, paying licensing fees to make models and figures while other companies just make transforming Transformers without a license, I'd kind of wonder why. If Hasbro sees more such licensing deals in their future, they might have some incentive to go after things that they used to let slide.

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Posted 28 December 2018 - 01:53 PM

Yeah, but...it's a press release. I don't know if I'd necessarily expect the person writing it to make the distinction between "knockoff Transformers" and "totally original character Sonicwave, wink-wink".

To the contrary, the fact that this came from a formal press release about a legal matter makes it even more likely that it was better by lawyers.

Also, the fact that this was specifically identified as a trademark issue, with zero mention of copyright, suggests complete knock-offs and/or any products with Transformers related branding on the packaging.

Not to say that 3rd party "original" figures are any more legitimate or safe under the law. They just likely aren't addressed in the specific actions that led to this specific press release.

Although China is a part of international copyright agreements, getting enforcement over derivative works would likely be a lot tougher than identical reproduction of trademarked materials.

Edited by D Buster Prime, 28 December 2018 - 01:58 PM.


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