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@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 05:24 PM)

Spotlight: Lioconvoy?

@  Bass X0 : (18 June 2021 - 04:15 PM)

How long until IDW puts out an Optimus Pride Month comic?

@  Cyoti : (18 June 2021 - 03:32 PM)

Even with B5, it didn't follow its original 5-year plan. Summaries from the supplementary materials for the scriptbooks demonstrates that was originally planned was very different from the actual product. Sinclair's actor's departure seemingly changed the show to the point that the stuff with the Vorlons/Shadows, the Minbari and the ending were all changed. Mapping out a show years in advance is difficult because of changing bts stuff like writers/actors leaving the show or suddenly having to retool because of ratings/execs. No plan survives intact especially in a chaotic environment of television production.

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2021 - 11:27 AM)

To be like Babylon 5, you need to cram a 2 season story arc into one because you fear being cancelled, then get further seasons you have no more material for. You also need a spinoff which the network heads don't want and do everything in their power to kill it while it's on air.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 June 2021 - 10:33 AM)

The required effort is probably why we don't have babylon 6; TNG.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 10:23 AM)

Everyone wants to be like Babylon 5 but no one wants to put in the effort

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:36 AM)

And then, after five years of hosting their own official podcast where they would answer fan questions and always encouraged their audience to pay attention to the mysteries, after the show had ended, they claimed the show was never really about the mysteries, it was all about the characters.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:34 AM)

What really bugs me with "Lost" is that the producers had willfully negotiated a set end date with the network halfway through season 3 (the show ended with season 6, as planned) specifically so they could plan out the plot for the remainder of the show. Then... the plot wasn't resolved properly.

@  tigerhawk : (18 June 2021 - 04:17 AM)

By then I had lost interest in arc TV shows, I followed a few and got the impression they were just making them up as they went along. Seemed to be a trend starting with new Galactica and Lost though in actuality began with The X Files and has become a trope called 'The Chris Carter Effect'.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:12 AM)

I think it was season 3 part 1 specifically, since they had two separate plot "arcs" for season 3.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:11 AM)

They threw everything in there, with no clear story structure, no clear stakes, and characters flip-flopping wherever the episode's writer needed them to go for their half-baked plot.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:10 AM)

Season 3 was the worst, with a terrible meandering random events plot.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 11:59 PM)

'save the cheerleader' then in season 3 he tears her skull open, scans her power and she simply heals. They didn't think any of it through.

@  Shockwave 75 : (17 June 2021 - 07:04 PM)

Well, you know Hollywood; if something's popular, run it into the ground!

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

And then there was the Writers' Strike, which isn't the show's fault.

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

Yeah, Sylar should've been, if not killed off, at least left to rest.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

It never truly recovered from that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Season 1 was good until the finale.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2021 - 09:37 AM)

because it sucked.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Heroes was cancelled twice.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 06:33 AM)

The song's official name is "Holding Out for a Hero".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 June 2021 - 12:54 AM)

That's a long time to wait for a sandwich.

@  Maruten : (16 June 2021 - 07:13 PM)

Lucky there's a hero arriving in July.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 June 2021 - 05:38 PM)

I think I've heard "I Need a Hero" more times this past week than I have in the past several years.

@  tigerhawk : (16 June 2021 - 12:41 PM)

Thanks to Earthrise I can recreate the end of Return of Optimus Prime part 1.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 June 2021 - 11:19 AM)

I wish they would do something like that here: but then it would become obvious in which provinces you're getting gouged.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

Here in Germany, the price you see is the price you pay, tax included.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

I always find it weaird hearing that stores in the US don't initially already taxes in their prices.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 04:33 AM)

You know what's kewl? Poor literacy.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 June 2021 - 04:31 PM)

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

@  CORVUS : (15 June 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Kewl. Thanks!

@  Kalidor : (15 June 2021 - 02:08 PM)

Hey everybody! I wanted to announce that Sarahthecutevixen is our newest addition to the Allspark staff. She's primarily looking over discord stuff, but I wanted to make sure she got a welcome over here as well.

@  NovaSaber : (14 June 2021 - 11:07 AM)

Turn-Bass RPG

@  Sabrblade : (14 June 2021 - 10:21 AM)

Do not X0 quietly into the night.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 June 2021 - 10:13 AM)

All your Bass are--

@  Donocropolis : (14 June 2021 - 05:56 AM)

*Bass X0 not available in Alaska or Hawaii.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2021 - 07:36 PM)

Get your own Big Mouth BassX0 for the low price of $19.95 (plusshippingandhandling)

@  repowers : (13 June 2021 - 12:45 PM)

Mr. Speaker, we are for the Bass X0.

@  Nevermore : (13 June 2021 - 06:04 AM)

It's all about that Bass XD.

@  tigerhawk : (13 June 2021 - 02:16 AM)

Will altering the moons orbit in any way help.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 June 2021 - 01:51 AM)

Now that you have seen this Bass XO, you must send it to five other Bass XOs or BassXO will come to you in a week and then you too will be BassXO.

@  Telly : (13 June 2021 - 12:08 AM)

or feed him after midnight

@  wonko the sane? : (12 June 2021 - 09:00 PM)

Just don't drop him.

@  Kaon : (12 June 2021 - 08:03 PM)

man this chat is nothing but Bass X)

@  Nevermore : (12 June 2021 - 07:08 PM)

Carefull, he is a Bass Xo.

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 June 2021 - 05:53 PM)

Aw, it's not even a shiny.

@  Sabrblade : (12 June 2021 - 05:27 PM)

A wild Bass X0 has appeared!

@  Bass X0 : (12 June 2021 - 05:20 PM)

I didn't even try this time.

@  Nevermore : (12 June 2021 - 03:43 AM)

8ass X÷ has hijacked this conversation.

@  Bass X0 : (12 June 2021 - 03:37 AM)

Its Bass X0. I named myself after my three favourite Mega Man characters - Bass, X and Zero. I did consider going with Vile Bass X0, but that would have been going too far.


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#1 DocChloroplast

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:36 PM

https://www.hollywoo...ginning-1170456

 

TL;DR: War for Cybertron gets its tie-in. The article doesn't say if this is an on-going or a limited series, but either way, it would have to do something REALLY ambitious for me to look into this.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:41 PM

I swear to god if you do ANOTHER "Optimus and Megatron were best buddies and the war started because they tried to overthrow the corrupt government" I will murder something.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:44 PM

Also, if we could avoid the pitfalls of IDW's 13 and not have the "mysterious death" be a fridged ladybot that Prime and Megs crushed on, that'd be GREAT.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:46 PM

It is

 

Very hard to be enthused about yet another pre-war story.



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:49 PM

Those covers definitely make it seem a WFC: Seige tie in book. That could be good or could be bad.

This material has been covered a lot in modern times so unless they have a really cool fresh take this isn't an exciting direction. On the other hand I like anytime we dig into Cybertron culture so if they actually play with and develop that and do lots of creative worldbuilding then I'm 100% behind the setting. I just don't have a ton of faith that they will do that.

I do love the idea of the Comic syncing more to the toyline again as it provides a constant influx of new characters and at least theoretically the option for more nostalgic feels like the way the old Marvel book worked.

-ZacWilliam, I'll definitely check the first issue. Not a big fan of that Prime/Megatron cover though...

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Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

*Visit the one and only Cybertronic Bestiary.
For a mechazoologic tour of the mechanimals of Cybertron.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:49 PM

So just "Transformers," no specific WFC and/or Siege branding. Definitely the new on-going continuity then. 

 

The writer is a fantasy novelist with no prior comic book experience? Hmm. 

 

Edit: He apparently has written for comics before, on IDW's short-lived Rogue Trooper title. 


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:54 PM

This material has been covered a lot in modern times so unless they have a really cool fresh take this isn't an exciting direction. On the other hand I like anytime we dig into Cybertron culture so if they actually play with and develop that and do lots of creative worldbuilding then I'm 100% behind the setting. I just don't have a ton of faith that they will do that.

 

See, this is kind of where I am, if not a bit more pessimistically. Cyberverse has been doing a fun job showing off what Cybertron was like pre/during the early parts of the war, and a book that really looks into what Cybertronians are like when they're not fighting/whining about fighting would be GREAT. But Siege takes so much inspiration from G1 that I'm afraid we won't even get that.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:57 PM

The story of Siege, such as it is, is "the day before the Ark launches and also there are MicroTargetmasters already." 

 

This...

 

The new series, titled simply Transformers, will see writer Brian Ruckley and artists Angel Hernandez and Ron Joseph tell the story of Cybertron before the war, and of the mysterious death that ended an age of peace on the planet. Bumblebee, soon to star in his own movie, will be one of the protagonists of the new title, which will publish twice a month.

 

 

...is quite a bit different from that. 



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:58 PM

The writer is a fantasy novelist with no prior comic book experience? Hmm.


finally, a transformers story written like conan the barbarian

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:00 PM

Hey, there's your Siege Leader Prime.


Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:00 PM

Set on Cybertron, with no humans? Count me in on being cautiously optimistic!


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:10 PM

My best-case scenario at the moment is that we'll get, like, a streamlined version of the -acies, with some Chaos Theory thrown in there for good measure, but...

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:11 PM

Hey, there's your Siege Leader Prime.

Who turns into Cybertron Prime's truck mode, as I'm sure many of us had predicted.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:15 PM

I'm skimming reviews of the writer's novels. Looks promising.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:15 PM

My best-case scenario at the moment is that we'll get, like, a streamlined version of the -acies, with some Chaos Theory thrown in there for good measure, but...

You're optimistic.  I'm guessing this will probably be a retread of Transformers Exodus with a lot more of first-episodes-of-G1 thrown in.


Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:16 PM

Yeah that is definitely Siege Magnus retooled into Optimus on that cover.  Truck front giving me some Cybertron/galaxy Force vibes. 

 

Might check it out.  I honestly dropped off the previous continuity wagon. So it might be good to start fresh again.



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:17 PM

I'm so tired of every piece of modern G1 media that isn't the Sunbow cartoon being marketed as "Finally the never-before-seen story of _____!" (that of course has already been seen half a dozen times over the past 35 years.)


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:21 PM

I am interested to see what a new series built from the ground up, following all that IDW accomplished, will look like. I loved a lot of the IDW continuity but all the best parts of its early history were crammed into an existing frame.

It is going to follow the basic history beats we've seen before. I think that's appropriate. To get a truly new story without a lot of continuity hair splitting you would need to set it in a different era with a different cast, and while I would love that I don't begrudge this.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:22 PM

So what do we call this new continuity? The last one we just called IDW.

 

IDW G2?

Neo IDW?

Siegeverse?

IDW2: Electric Pineapples?

IDW: Here we go again?



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:24 PM

So what do we call this new continuity? The last one we just called IDW.

 

IDW G2?

Neo IDW?

Siegeverse?

IDW2: Electric Pineapples?

IDW: Here we go again?

 

IDW Part 2: Hasbro won't let us do anything but G1 now and forever.


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