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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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#1 Daniel Adkins

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 09:42 PM

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Kinda surprised we didn't have a thread for this already. But hey, with all the casting news coming out in the last few days, better late than never!

 

Casting recap so far:

Brec Bassinger playing Courtney Whitmore/Stargirl

Anjelika WashingtonYvette Monreal and Christopher James Baker cast in unknown roles

Joel McHale cast as Sylvester Pemberton/Starman

Brian Stapf cast as Ted Grant/Wildcat

Lou Ferrigno, Jr. cast as Rex Tyler/Hourman

Henry Thomas cast as Dr. Charles McNider/Doctor Mid-Nite

 

We also know that Yolanda Montez (the second Wildcat) will be a classmate and friend of Courtney's (which could be the role Anjelika Washington is playing) in the series, and that Pat Dugan/Stripesy will appear in his S.T.R.I.P.E. armor.

 

As a huge fan of Starman and Stargirl, I'm excited to see where this show goes. I trust Geoff Johns on this considering how personal the character is to him. I'm also digging the JSA members they've cast so far, and I hope to see not only more of the classic members (Al Pratt, Wesley Dodds, Jay Garrick, Alan Scott, etc) but some of their successors (Atom Smasher, Damage, Obsidian and Jade, Sandy, and Cyclone come instantly to mind).

 

The one thing that has me scratching my head is Sylvester Pemberton being described as "the Golden Age Starman." While it makes sense to kind of condense and merge the legacy of Starman and the Star-Spangled Kid, I'm holding out hope that Ted Knight will still appear as the original Starman who passed the title onto Sylvester. 


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Posted 17 December 2018 - 10:18 PM

That's the second time they've made Pemberton into Starman, they did it in "Smallville" too. I'm almost wondering if they don't want to use Ted Knight because of the name?

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 10:47 PM

That's the second time they've made Pemberton into Starman, they did it in "Smallville" too. I'm almost wondering if they don't want to use Ted Knight because of the name?

Sylvester was still called the Star-Spangled Kid in Smallville, he just also already had the Cosmic Staff and was rocking a very Jack Knight-esque jacket.

 

I get why they want to consolidate and simplify the legacy, I just think it would work just as well to have Sylvester take up the name Starman from Ted and be the second Starman, rather than worrying about other Starmen. 



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Posted 17 December 2018 - 11:37 PM

They explained that he's SSK in look, just not name. I'm fine with this.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 05:19 PM

I need my Knights, dammit!

 

Also, we have some more casting breakdowns which hint at more JSA members and villains. 


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 07:47 PM

New CW show?


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 08:18 PM

New CW show?

 

either that or their streaming service. Which one's more cost-effective? 


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:48 PM

New CW show?

 

 

 

New CW show?

 

either that or their streaming service. Which one's more cost-effective? 

 

As said in the title and the image, it'll be on DC Universe.



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Posted 19 December 2018 - 04:33 PM

That could actually make me pirate it.

 

Ironbite-it'd probably fit better on the CW though.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 07:11 PM

I disagree. Being on DC Universe allows for some greater creative freedom and a more focused story. Plus, people would want it to be in the Arrowverse and they already botched Stargirl and the JSA in Legends. 



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Posted 21 December 2018 - 11:40 AM

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 03:38 PM

Luke Wilson has been cast as Pat Dugan aka "S.T.R.I.P.E."

 

https://www.comingso...stargirl-series


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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:21 PM

Upon relooking at the character breakdowns, I think its pretty clear that "Sean" and "Ali Miller" are in fact Sportsmaster and Tigress (which pretty much confirms that Artemis will be in the show) and "Dr. Draven" is Dragon King. However, I also think it's a fair assumption that since "Scott Weber" is clearly Brainwave, "Matt Kenner" could be Brainwave, Jr.



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Posted 15 January 2020 - 08:01 AM


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Posted 15 January 2020 - 02:28 PM

Btw, I didn't follow the Stargirl comic (but got the two issues when YJ appeared) but did Courtney get a boyfriend? Or was it Billy Shazam in JSA?

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 04:51 PM

Btw, I didn't follow the Stargirl comic (but got the two issues when YJ appeared) but did Courtney get a boyfriend? Or was it Billy Shazam in JSA?

 

I don't know Courtney's full history (which presumably has some reboots in it from the New 52 and Rebirth), but there was indeed a time during the pre-New 52 JSA book when Courtney and Billy were... well, at least interested in each other. I don't think it was necessarily official. It caused some difficulty when Billy was in his Captain Marvel form (most JSAers didn't know Marvel's secret identity), and others thought the adult Marvel was behaving inappropriately with the young Courtney (who did know who Billy was). Eventually, they had to break it off due to these difficulties.

Courtney was also involved with Al Rothstein, aka Atom Smasher, for a while. Again, not sure I'd say they were actually dating, but she was certainly interested in him.


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Posted 20 May 2020 - 09:45 AM

Anyone else catch the premiere last night on the CW?


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 03:53 PM

Yep, I thought it was pretty good.

 

We actually got to see the STRIPE at the end.  I almost wasn't expecting that in the first episode.

 

Interesting thing about the Cosmic Staff...

 

Spoiler

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 05:55 PM

The Staff was basically Carpet from Aladdin and MCU Doctor Strangle's cloak.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 21 May 2020 - 11:10 AM

Yeah, and it's probably just that simple.  But, with Geoff Johns on the show's staff, I have to wonder if they'll go a little deeper in the comics lore than the average DC TV show.

 

Spoiler


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