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[Kup]

I have a best friend that, if he died, Id be a complete and utter wreck. Hes effectively a brother to me, and if one of us had to jump off a cliff to save the universe, wed probably fight to equally save the others family like hawkeye and Natasha.

Ill fight for him and his family, equally as much as my own. Yes. Theres love within friendships.

[Sabrblade]

In other words, not all love is romantic or sexual. Platonic love is a very real and, in many people's cases, very deep thing.

 

Disney's Brother Bear and Frozen were even all about that kind of love.

[Sukoshiko]

Thing is, if we'd been shown that Hawkeye and Widow had a relationship truly that deep at some point (maybe if there's bee a movie showing them working together as SHIELD agents?), then it wouldn't seem forced to me.

If you took the Hawkeye and Black Widow from Avengers:EMH cartoon, and put them in that situation, I could buy it much more easily.

 

Part of the problem is that Renner seems to be a flat wooden actor who can do action stunts but seems to be as emotionally withdrawn as Christian Bale (when Bale isn't being a spoiled brat screaming as a member of the production crew).

[Rust]

Thing is, if we'd been shown that Hawkeye and Widow had a relationship truly that deep at some point

 

Again, they've had moments of genuine affection and friendship since the first Avengers film, when Natasha went out of her way to break Clint free of the brainwashing instead of just straight up killing him. I'm really not sure what exactly you want to make the relationship seem real to you when it's been one of the most consistent of the MCU.

 

Seriously, Clint and Natasha have more screen time together than Nat and Bruce, but nobody bats an eye that those two became an item off screen.

[Telly]

if thanos had put any REAL thought into a plan, he wouldve come up with the idea of doubling the universes resources. hell, he could make them infinite. but he all crazy and thinks killing is the best way to go

[Sukoshiko]

 

Seriously, Clint and Natasha have more screen time together than Nat and Bruce, but nobody bats an eye that those two became an item off screen.

 

Actually, I thought that (Nat & Bruce) was really stupid.

[Ironbite]

Thing is, if we'd been shown that Hawkeye and Widow had a relationship truly that deep at some point (maybe if there's bee a movie showing them working together as SHIELD agents?), then it wouldn't seem forced to me.

If you took the Hawkeye and Black Widow from Avengers:EMH cartoon, and put them in that situation, I could buy it much more easily.

 

Part of the problem is that Renner seems to be a flat wooden actor who can do action stunts but seems to be as emotionally withdrawn as Christian Bale (when Bale isn't being a spoiled brat screaming as a member of the production crew).

 

I got the perfect song for you bub.

 

 

Ironbite-I'll even go with the cool Dwarven Metal version of it as well.

[Echowarrior]

if thanos had put any REAL thought into a plan, he wouldve come up with the idea of doubling the universes resources. hell, he could make them infinite. but he all crazy and thinks killing is the best way to go

 

Pretty much, yeah.

 

Thanos got it into his head that halving the population of Titan would solve it's problems. Regardless of whether or not it would've worked, they didn't do it, and everyone died...save him. And thus he made the logical leap that he was right. So he's got it locked in his head that doing the same thing on a grander scale will solve everything. He has to be right, because if another alternative works...well, we saw him taking an alternate route in Endgame, didn't we?

 

I'm glad he's dust now. Dude was a jerk.

[Wildwade]

The "double the resources" thing doesn't really work though if you apply some thought to it.  The logistics of it seem too complicated for even the Mind Stone to manage.

 

Like, where do these resources go?  Will the planets suddenly be overrun with natural resources like flora and fauna heedless of the people inhabiting those places?  Or suppose they get put in a neutral place.  Is there any guarantee these resources will be distributed fairly among the civilisations that need them?  Not everyone's needs are the same.

 

And it simply wouldn't be in character for Thanos.  He doesn't want to rule or manage anything.  Would his army be in charge of making sure everyone gets what aid they need?

 

Plus, he's a cynical, sociopathic butthole.  OF COURSE he's gonna wipe people out.  It's the fastest, cleanest, easiest way he can see.  He thinks doing it randomly is fair and just, which is what, Two-Face Logic?  And Two-Face is SUCH a stable individual...

[Axaday]

I think it is partly an inertia thing.  Thanos always had an idea that he would gather up all the Infinity Stones and fix things in one snap, but he didn't wait for that to happen.  He was going planet to planet doing his plan manually and he had no means to double the resources just by showing up with some space whales.  By the time he got the stones, he was pretty set in that idea.

[Benbot]

Well, new S.H. Figuarts of Endgame figures went up for preorder this morning and if you sleep at night, that means you missed them.  Why do you keep doing this, Bandai?  

[Telly]

resurrecting this thread cause somethings been bothering me: how did scotts van got in parking garage/storage unit in the first place? not only that, but it was even labelled "lang" on the fence (or one of the boxes that was in there. anyway...). who found the van to get it moved? how did they know who it belonged to? was it luis or one of those guys? did scott tell him what he was doing and where he was going?

[Ironbite]

I think the van was just impounded as abandoned property.

[Daith]

And as long as it was in his name it wouldnt be too hard to look up the plates.

[Paladin]

was it determined if any of the Wombats survived the snap? 

 

 

because i would KILL to see Luis recapping the five years in between movies...

[Echowarrior]

resurrecting this thread cause somethings been bothering me: how did scotts van got in parking garage/storage unit in the first place? not only that, but it was even labelled "lang" on the fence (or one of the boxes that was in there. anyway...). who found the van to get it moved? how did they know who it belonged to? was it luis or one of those guys? did scott tell him what he was doing and where he was going?

 

I assumed it was done by either one of the Wombats or by Scott's ex-wife and her cop hubby.

[Have a Pickle]

if thanos had put any REAL thought into a plan, he wouldve come up with the idea of doubling the universes resources. hell, he could make them infinite. but he all crazy and thinks killing is the best way to go

He's just not a people person. I get it.

[Telly]

this time last year i was pulling my hair out in anticipation in seeing this. the culmination of an 11 year, 22 movie experiment that we had never seen the likes of (though always wanted to), or if it would even WORK. and try as they might, no one else has been able to duplicate it. we laughed, we cried, we even said "wtf?" a few times, but we all had a good time and enjoyed the ride

 

this scene still gives me goosebumps after all these years. the first time theyre all together in costume

 

 

then of course theres this

 

 

while thats an awesome scene, its nothing without one of the loudest pops from an audience ive ever heard (this isnt from my theater, though its damn near the same). and just because i waited 7 years to hear it, but it was worth it (found a vid with both scenes combined with a reaction)

 

 

whether the mcu goes up or down in the future, this was a fantastic experience and one im glad i was able to take part in

Edited by Telly, 15 April 2020 - 10:58 PM.

[Thylacine 2000]

If all this had happened a year ago, it would have indefinitely postponed Endgame. It would have been pushed to November but then not opened anyway because nothing got better (my prediction for Black Widow). Sometime like 9 months after scheduled release, they'd have put it OnDemand. No audience reactions. All the "abandoned society" scenes totally unbearable.

Good timing, huh?