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@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 11:31 AM

If they were all gone, I'd expect Gamora to have heard about it. I'm going to write off the Nova-corp record as a possible continuity blip, and move on.
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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:03 PM

I don't think it needs to be a continuity blip, just a wink to those paying attention. Thanos considers what he did to Gamora's world good and right...when it likely is what resulted in the other half of the population dying off. Thanos is a unhinged maniac utterly convinced of his own solutions he fails to see how utterly monstrous they are.

 

In case anyone needed more of a clue beyond the fact for all his talk about culling the universe for its own good, he himself was always immune to the effects of his actions (Right down to using the stones to heal the mortal wound Thor gave him).

 

That's not even talking about his hypocrisy with the Dwarves that built the Gauntlet. 300 souls aboard...leaves one alive. Thanos' math is screwy.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 05:45 PM

James Gunn said it was a straight-up retcon -- when he was developing Gamora's backstory for this one, he decided that in service to the plot, he had to contradict the barely-noticed reference to her species from GOTG. I think we're supposed to take Thanos at his word about the planet's current status.
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Posted 12 December 2018 - 08:40 PM

Which is weird.. since the barely noticed reference is a core part of her comic backstory.

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 09:37 PM

It is, but the slaughter was, I believe, carried out by the Badoon.
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Posted 13 December 2018 - 03:54 PM

indeed it was.



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Posted 15 December 2018 - 07:48 AM

Nah. The MCU is good about vaguely keeping their films to the source material when it comes to story beats. While Thanos' fate is up in the air, it's pretty clear that just like the Gauntlet storyline Nebula's going to end up with the Gauntlet in the end. Adam Warlock was set up in GotG2, but I really question whether or not they can pull off that guy as guardian of the stones within a single two and a half to three hour film. So for sake of argument, I see Nebula being the Adam Warlock of the film ultimately and heading off to live in solitude with the soul of Gamora to keep her company.

 

There's also the fact Zoe Saldana (the actress who plays Gamora) is Neytiri in James Cameron's Avatar sequels and is presently filming those (and they're doing four of them back to back), so it's likely Gamora's fate in Infinity War is going to stand.

 

Chances are also very high Iron Man, and possibly all the original Avengers, end up biting it. It's not by circumstance that the ones left were the original five and none of them are getting any younger and in the case of Iron Man, getting any weaker. Iron Man was effectively a Green Lantern last film with an armor that could do anything (He survived being hit by a MOON with nanobots, when only a few years ago his briefcase armor was trashed by Dynamo's whips). Keeping him at his present tech level in the MCU would pose a lot of challenges since they haven't had an "Armor Wars" event that gets his level of tech into the hands of his opponents. Heck. Ghost had to be a villain for Ant-Man and Wasp because of that power gap. Only two that would exist in the MCU that could match Tony right now would be the real Mandarin (Who has been hinted at and I'd love to see Andy Lau play) and Zeke Stane (Son of Obadiah).

 

Plus, his death and/or the deaths of the other original Avengers would be a fitting "passing the torch" for the MCU to the newer generation of heroes that would arise in the absent of the Avengers. Namely Disney's re-acquisition to the rights to the Fantastic Four and X-Men.



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Posted 15 December 2018 - 09:02 AM

It's actually just two hours of Korg and Thanos throwing down.

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Posted 15 December 2018 - 09:53 AM

I don't think that all of the original Avengers will perish, but I strongly suspect that Steve Rogers might bite the big one.


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Posted 15 December 2018 - 07:08 PM

It's actually just two hours of Korg and Thanos throwing down.


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Posted 15 December 2018 - 10:46 PM

shouldnt this be in the other thread we already have for endgame discussion?


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Posted 15 December 2018 - 10:55 PM

Naughty spambot's nonsense immortalised here so that the lovely bunch who kindly responded to it don't have their effort wasted.

Instead of all or one of the avengers beating thanos by brute force, time travel or getting their own infinity gauntlet, I predict Avengers Endgane would end with thanos choosing to reverse the snap. During the whole movie, the Avengers are going to try to do their thing to beat Thanos or reverse the snap but it's going to fail. It'll ultimately be one or the core Avengers convincing thanos he was wrong or maybe Thanos talking to Gamora or the dead ultimately choosing to reverse the snap or 'some solution'. Thanos was humanised and portrayed as a sympathetic/ tragic protagonist in Infinity War he was the focus of the entire movie it wouldn't make sense for him be the big bad villain then just die to the Avengers in a fist fight. It would also be slightly underwhelming if Thor or Captain Marvel killed Thanos in the final battle and it wouldn't measure up to Infinity War. What better ending to the arc of Thanos if he chooses to reverse the snap or comply with whatever the solution the Avengers came up with. While he wouldn't be a hero, his character arc would be similar to Darth Vader in the OT. I don't know precisely what the solution/plan of the Avengers are but I feel like this would be the most powerful way to end Avengers Endgame. Instead of invoking cosmic beings such as eternity, or complex ideas with the quantum realm and antman which would take a while for the regular audience to understand, it's much more simpler and powerful for Thanos to realize his wrongs and reverse the snap. The simple way is sometimes much more powerful than a complex idea which would be awesome in a comic book or TV series but not so much in a 2 hour movie. Keeping Thanks alive would also allow them to potentially set up the Infinity Watch and bring back Thanos as a hero, villian or neutral character in the future.


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 05:42 AM

Damn spambots!
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Posted 16 December 2018 - 05:46 AM

I'm surprised really, since that Spambot was less...spambotty...then before. Damn Chatbot AIs.



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Posted 16 December 2018 - 05:26 PM

I may have been a bit overzealous, but I'm always suspicious of first posts. And who signs up to a TF forum to post about Avengers, but doesn't care enough about Avengers to have found the existing thread?


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 10:25 PM

Any ending other than the one that ends with Thanos being defeated by choosing hostess fruit pies over The Infinity Gauntlet will be a major disappointment.

Addendum: Thanos being defeated by Spider-Man, Hellcat, and some little kid with a dumb hat, and then being carted away by regular beat-cops is an acceptable substitute. Said beat-cops being played by Peter Weller and Ernie Hudson.

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Posted 16 December 2018 - 11:09 PM

Addendum: Thanos being defeated by Spider-Man, Hellcat,

 

Wouldn't mind seeing Trish move up into the films from Netflix, myself.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 05:58 AM



Addendum: Thanos being defeated by Spider-Man, Hellcat, and some little kid with a dumb hat


I am those last 2.

I want to be the first one.

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 04:21 AM

Watching infinity war again, and i noticed theres a mold/pattern/prototype of another gauntlet just sitting on nidavellir. Eitri is still alive (maybe). If they can fix the forge then they can have their own gauntlet...

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 06:17 AM

I'm not sure Thor really wants to go through holding that portal open again.

 

Also the Gauntlet is useless without the Stones. The Gauntlet just allows the wearer to safely harness the power of them and use them in tandem with each other. (As both the Tesseract and Power Stone both had adverse effects on the wielders when held without protection).

 

But fun thing about the Tesseract/Cosmic Cube. People are still confused as to why Red Skull is suddenly the guardian of the Soul Stone when the Tesseract shot him into space. The Cube grants the desires of the wielder. Skull wanted to be the one who controlled the power of the stones. The Tesseract granted his wish...after a fashion.





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