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@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 12:35 PM)

See; quebec is under a new lockdown, have been since the 26th. It's supposed to end the 8th of february, but probably won't. Stores are only supposed to sell necessities (in deference to the stores which are closed.), but the quebec government made no effort define what counts as a "necessity", only punished them for getting it wrong. So I can buy all the candy I want, but not underwear, boots, winterwear, small appliances. Hell, my brother had to explain why he wanted a FUSE when he needed to fix his stove shortly before new years.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 12:31 PM)

Targets don't exist in canada anymore. They lasted like 3 years before abandoning the market. But even if they WERE still here: they would be under the same poorly defined restrictions as walmart.

@  -LittleAutob... : (22 January 2021 - 12:10 PM)

Target's better-

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 07:51 AM)

HA! my walmarts can't even sell underwear. There's no clearances going on up here.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 January 2021 - 11:31 PM)

Check your Walmarts: Post-Christmas clearances are going on and I snagged Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered for Switch for only $5 (YMMV)

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 January 2021 - 03:15 PM)

*walks out on stage* Umm, I don't know how to tell everyone this, but Conway Twitty's been dead for nearly 30 years, now. So...*dances awkwardly as distraction*

@  tigerhawk : (21 January 2021 - 10:47 AM)

uh oh we need a distraction, ladies and gentlemen Conway Twitty.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 January 2021 - 10:20 AM)

*screaming internally*

@  -LittleAutob... : (21 January 2021 - 09:46 AM)

Everything is f i n e

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 January 2021 - 08:30 AM)

Everything's okay until it isn't. That's life.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 January 2021 - 08:12 AM)

Oh my god... I forgot entirely about yellowstone.

@  tigerhawk : (21 January 2021 - 03:32 AM)

Until the third civil war. Or yellowstone, whatever's good.

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2021 - 06:01 PM)

That's not true. An adult man is in control of the White House now.

@  repowers : (19 January 2021 - 03:18 PM)

Everything's out of control.

@  -LittleAutob... : (19 January 2021 - 09:51 AM)

*cough* w h a t?

@  Donocropolis : (19 January 2021 - 09:48 AM)

Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance they ain't no friends of mine

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2021 - 08:52 AM)

You could leave your friends behind.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 January 2021 - 09:43 PM)

You could if you really wanted to.

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 January 2021 - 01:35 PM)

Nadie puede decir algo diferente >:D

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 January 2021 - 01:35 PM)

......... all wounds heal through God. *walks off*

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 January 2021 - 01:01 PM)

Let me know when the WEAPONs wake up.

@  tigerhawk : (18 January 2021 - 05:18 AM)

Or is the wound the Earth healing.

@  unluckiness : (18 January 2021 - 03:32 AM)

Healing is just destroying the wound

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 January 2021 - 06:08 PM)

But eventually destroys everything.

@  tigerhawk : (17 January 2021 - 05:03 PM)

Heals many wounds

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 January 2021 - 02:03 PM)

Time.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2021 - 07:53 AM)

I dunno, maybe. I'm not clairvoyant either...

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2021 - 04:30 AM)

Covid?

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2021 - 09:50 PM)

At this point, if I'm going to die then it won't be the wait what killed me. It didn't help any, mind you, but it's not what got me.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 January 2021 - 09:37 PM)

Technically we are all literally dying to play with our next figure.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2021 - 05:36 PM)

I am figuratively dying to play with that cheetor.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2021 - 04:39 PM)

Still waiting for my box from BBTS to arrive.

@  tigerhawk : (16 January 2021 - 04:29 PM)

Kingdoms is fantabulous and it's only the first wave.

@  tigerhawk : (12 January 2021 - 12:10 PM)

My Super Collection Megatron always had two left legs and I just discovered my Thrilling 30 Crosscut has two right hips.

@  Nevermore : (11 January 2021 - 07:56 PM)

Fortunately, it's only Netflix Hound, so not really much of a loss here.

@  Nevermore : (11 January 2021 - 07:55 PM)

So it's been a while since I've had a misassembled Transformers toy.

@  Echowarrior : (11 January 2021 - 10:02 AM)

More Micromasters would be welcome.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 January 2021 - 06:15 AM)

Instructions unclear, have more sports cars.

@  tigerhawk : (11 January 2021 - 01:57 AM)

Or they could make the other Micromasters of the teams they half assed.

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 January 2021 - 11:20 PM)

There should be a box set of eight Stakeouts.

@  Bass X0 : (10 January 2021 - 08:27 PM)

There should be a box-set of Thrust, Dirge and Ramjet. But I'm not expecting it.

@  Nevermore : (10 January 2021 - 07:51 PM)

I hope there are re-releases this year!

@  tigerhawk : (10 January 2021 - 03:59 PM)

I hope there's rereleases of Earthrise Ramjet, Dirge and Ratchet next year.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 January 2021 - 07:51 AM)

Oh no, he was loved. I'd argue he could have had a better life physically, but he was loved. Deeply.

@  Telly : (08 January 2021 - 01:42 AM)

as long s/he gave love and was loved, it was a good life

@  Echowarrior : (07 January 2021 - 11:10 PM)

Poor puppy. Poor kid.

@  CORVUS : (07 January 2021 - 03:04 PM)

My condolences :(

@  wonko the sane? : (07 January 2021 - 10:45 AM)

So: My sisters dog just had a heart attack and died... while her 12 year old son was walking him. Welcome to 2021 everybody!

@  Dekafox : (04 January 2021 - 07:24 PM)

Except they're Deceptican'ts usually.

@  Devcon : (04 January 2021 - 05:17 PM)

Depending on which dub: Either Decepticons or Decepticans.


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#1 That One Guy

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:52 PM

Okay, so quick question (specifically for NightViper considering his extensive involvement with Fun Pub and the Wings Universe as a whole). If all major events of the G1 cartoon continuity happen in Wings Universe, does the reverse apply for the G1 cartoon continuity?

For example, since the Machine Wars happened in WU, and the two timelines are supposedly very similar, then would the Machine Wars as we saw them occur in the cartoon continuity, though slightly edited to avoid any continuity errors?

Probably a question of little importance to most, but it's a query that's been nagging on me for the last few days. Thanks in advance to any help given!

Edited by That ONE Guy, 03 December 2018 - 11:00 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2018 - 11:19 PM

You're free to think it does, but nothing that outside the cartoon is going to be binding to anybody who wants to use the cartoon for their continuity.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 11:32 PM

The point of Wings Universe was to give the FunPub writers a place to play with G1 cartoon-esque stories without actually having to worry about tripping over Hasbro mandates and what have you, so probably not?

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:35 AM

If anything written in the Wings Universe is also automatically written into the G1 cartoon universe, then you might as well just say you're writing in the G1 cartoon universe to be begin with and not bother creating a new continuity at all.



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 02:46 AM

If all major events of the G1 cartoon continuity happen in Wings Universe, does the reverse apply for the G1 cartoon continuity?


Probably not.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 06:55 AM

Alright alright, point taken, stupid question. I was just curious, because the two continuities were described as very similar, so I wondered if all the broad strokes between them stayed the same (ei, major events like the Machine Wars).

As a continuity nerd, this is the stuff I ask myself when reading articles or statements from creators.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:42 AM

What's been said is correct, with or without the snark :p

 

The main motivation for Fun Pub separating Wingsverse from the G1 cartoon was because they didn't want to impact any of the previous writing and intents, without having the blessing of those that created the previous fiction. This was actually something very important to Pete Sinclair as an editor - he felt it disrespectful to change or rewrite or add to the previous stories if he knew that the new writing wouldn't have been what the original creative team would have put out. So, where he could, he opted to make the stories set in entirely new universes to completely get around the issue. Or new branches, like Classicsverse erupting out of and away from the Marvel comics. 

 

So shorter answer, no. The Wingsverse wouldn't reflect back on the G1 cartoon in any official mandate. If you'd like to add some of it to your own personal mega-canon though, I don't think we ended up making as many contradictions to the G1 cartoon as we thought we might have to (which was another reason why Wingsverse was made a distinct universe). 



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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:25 AM

Ahh, okay, that clears things up. Now knowing the intent behind the decision, it makes things a lot clearer than at first.

In no official sense (this is, after all, just a series of forums and discussions), I think that the timelines being stated as highly similar indicates a mutual history of shared events, although of course that's simply personal canon. Thanks for the replies everyone, this has been quite useful.

Edited by That ONE Guy, 04 December 2018 - 11:25 AM.


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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:27 AM

Though, there are the Season 5 events of the cartoon that feature Powermaster Optimus Prime and Tommy Kennedy, which the Wings Universe seems to lack.


Edited by Sabrblade, 04 December 2018 - 11:28 AM.

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If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:44 AM

Though, there are the Season 5 events of the cartoon that feature Powermaster Optimus Prime and Tommy Kennedy, which the Wings Universe seems to lack.

Okay, I've got to hear the explanation for this one. What happened in Wings that excludes season 5?

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:56 AM

Wings is to Sunbow as Marvel UK is to Marvel US.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 11:59 AM

Other than Prime not having his power master body (Wings is no stranger to switching bodies for characters), what exactly contradicts the Season 5 shorts?

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 01:55 PM

Also, for the sake of context, this topic was mainly created to see if events similar to (but not quite the same as) the Machine Wars and Hoist the Flag happened in the G1 cartoon continuity in a 'Not official' but still assumed sort of way. That continuity was my childhood, and thus I have a special attachment to it. Wings Universe lore offers a potential expansion to the lore of the cartoon, and thus is of great interest to me.

Plus, NightViper's mention of Prime and Galvatron likely entering J'nwan after the Machine Wars has got me hooked on all kinds of questions.

Edited by That ONE Guy, 06 December 2018 - 02:06 PM.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:10 AM

Well, as was said, the Wings Universe was created as a way for Fun Pub to play around in a world like the cartoon without affecting the world of the cartoon proper.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 03:59 PM

Yes, I understand the motives behind that decision now. My mega-continuity timeline is going to need rewriting after Beast Machines, however, as I had been using Hoist the Flag and the Tornado-Decepticon Saboteur entries as the continuation of the timeline. In light of the information gained from this post, I'll have to return to using the Universe War ending (which is a shame, I rather enjoyed Hoist the Flag).

Speaking of the Universe War, I have a question. Was it confirmed that the Maximal High Council bites it during the Culling? Some articles on TFWiki have mentioned it in passing, others not, and I can't find the actual source text anywhere.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 04:21 PM

Speaking of the Universe War, I have a question. Was it confirmed that the Maximal High Council bites it during the Culling? Some articles on TFWiki have mentioned it in passing, others not, and I can't find the actual source text anywhere.

 

That info comes from the profile for Optimus Primal printed in Issue #9 of the Transformers Collectors Club newsletter (before it became a magazine).


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 04:35 PM

Got it. Rip Magnaboss (I was enjoying the fact Prowl and Ironhide somehow returned from the dead yet again). Of course, perhaps this Magnaboss wasn't a combiner at all and that's limited only to IDW fiction, but that's just pure speculation.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 04:40 PM

Got it. Rip Magnaboss (I was enjoying the fact Prowl and Ironhide somehow returned from the dead yet again). Of course, perhaps this Magnaboss wasn't a combiner at all and that's limited only to IDW fiction, but that's just pure speculation.


Don't forget: the Magnaboss members being the famous G1 veterans is only definitely true in IDW Beast Wars and "Dawn of the Predacus", however obvious of an interpretation it might be. In Beast Wars: Uprising, eagle Silverbolt is his own individual, and in the original toy bio continuity, it is ambiguous. As for 3H continuity, I suppose you would have to ask those creators what they thought.

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 04:48 PM

Very true. If I had a dollar for every time TF lore was ambiguous...

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 05:44 PM

Said creator who put Magnaboss on the High Council in the 3H fiction was Simon Furman, who was also the author of the IDW Beast Wars comics that made Magnaboss's components into the Maximal Elders, so make of that what you will.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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