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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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Posted 04 June 2019 - 11:01 PM

I thought that too, but nothing i found matched the description given

https://www.google.c...biw=320&bih=440

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Posted 04 June 2019 - 11:37 PM

Yeah, I found Crystar while googling around and assumed I'd found it myself, but then nothing matched. This is more of on ogre or Rancor, not a dragon.

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 01:12 AM

I swear I had a friend who had something like that.

 

If I'm not mistaken it was a Master of the Universe toy.


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 02:58 AM

Obviously you have a pic, but could you do some sort of "artist depiction" of it?
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Posted 05 June 2019 - 05:52 AM

Don't want to interrupt, so feel free to keep looking for the translucent orange crystal Rancor, but I've got one as well that has always bugged me.

 

I only had 1 item out of this toyline, so I can't say for certain that they all worked the same.  It was a near-futuristic military vehicle, basically a hum-vee with gull wing doors.  When you pressed a button on top of the vehicle, it autotransformed into a little battle station.  The hood flipped open to reveal two guns, and the back end split in half and folded out to reveal two anti-aircraft type guns with seats.  It included two tiny, beige, non-articulated soldiers that were either robots or in futuristic armor.  The vehicle was a little larger than a Scout class transformer, the soldiers were maybe an inch tall had they been standing, about the size of the old Army Gear figures, if you remember those.  It was a super-cool little toy, but I couldn't ever figure out what line it came from.



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Posted 05 June 2019 - 08:32 AM

Long shot probably, but could the figure shown in the number 2 spot of this list be the figure?

 

https://www.toplessr...al_gimmicks.php

 

I'm basically doing a search for the 'sparking gimmick' as I can't imagine too many toys used that.


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Posted 05 June 2019 - 10:07 AM

I only had 1 item out of this toyline, so I can't say for certain that they all worked the same.  It was a near-futuristic military vehicle, basically a hum-vee with gull wing doors.  When you pressed a button on top of the vehicle, it autotransformed into a little battle station.  The hood flipped open to reveal two guns, and the back end split in half and folded out to reveal two anti-aircraft type guns with seats.  It included two tiny, beige, non-articulated soldiers that were either robots or in futuristic armor.  The vehicle was a little larger than a Scout class transformer, the soldiers were maybe an inch tall had they been standing, about the size of the old Army Gear figures, if you remember those.  It was a super-cool little toy, but I couldn't ever figure out what line it came from.

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I had the same humvee, and the tank. Still have a bunch of the soldiers that came with the tank.

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 10:25 AM

Oh yeah.. I had that plane..



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Posted 05 June 2019 - 10:32 AM

Long shot probably, but could the figure shown in the number 2 spot of this list be the figure?
 
https://www.toplessr...al_gimmicks.php
 
I'm basically doing a search for the 'sparking gimmick' as I can't imagine too many toys used that.

Nope, not that either. I too figured the sparking gimmick would be the key to a successful Google, but came up short.

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:06 PM

I only had 1 item out of this toyline, so I can't say for certain that they all worked the same.  It was a near-futuristic military vehicle, basically a hum-vee with gull wing doors.  When you pressed a button on top of the vehicle, it autotransformed into a little battle station.  The hood flipped open to reveal two guns, and the back end split in half and folded out to reveal two anti-aircraft type guns with seats.  It included two tiny, beige, non-articulated soldiers that were either robots or in futuristic armor.  The vehicle was a little larger than a Scout class transformer, the soldiers were maybe an inch tall had they been standing, about the size of the old Army Gear figures, if you remember those.  It was a super-cool little toy, but I couldn't ever figure out what line it came from.

Xpanders!I had the same humvee, and the tank. Still have a bunch of the soldiers that came with the tank.

Thank you! Never could find it via the google. Now I'm wishing I had had some of the larger sets. Those look awesome. I loved the slow, noisy opening process with the little spring motors. It had such a satisfying feel to it that normal springs would not have accomplished.

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:29 PM

I only had 1 item out of this toyline, so I can't say for certain that they all worked the same.  It was a near-futuristic military vehicle, basically a hum-vee with gull wing doors.  When you pressed a button on top of the vehicle, it autotransformed into a little battle station.  The hood flipped open to reveal two guns, and the back end split in half and folded out to reveal two anti-aircraft type guns with seats.  It included two tiny, beige, non-articulated soldiers that were either robots or in futuristic armor.  The vehicle was a little larger than a Scout class transformer, the soldiers were maybe an inch tall had they been standing, about the size of the old Army Gear figures, if you remember those.  It was a super-cool little toy, but I couldn't ever figure out what line it came from.

Xpanders!

I had the same humvee, and the tank. Still have a bunch of the soldiers that came with the tank.

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http://www.virtualto.../megaforce.html

we're combined into one larger line with the aesthetics of Megaforce and I don't know if I've ever wanted a non-existent toy so much.

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 03:48 PM

Obviously you have a pic, but could you do some sort of "artist depiction" of it?

Here's an attempt, with a lot of details fudged. Like, the face is a total blank to me, I don't remember if the spark effect actually came out through the mouth or was just visible inside the body. But I think this is a decent representation of the proportions, at least.
IMG_20190605_134636.jpg

 

Best guess, I probably got the toy somewhere around 1982 - 1985. Definitely wouldn't have been much later, and the aesthetics I remember don't point to it being a 1970s toy.



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Posted 05 June 2019 - 04:04 PM

Oh! I found it! Searched completed eBay listings for "spark wheel action figure":

https://www.ebay.com...=p2047675.l2557

 

https://www.ebay.com...5.c100037.m2107

 

It's "Lava Loc" from Blackstar, circa 1983.

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https://collectibles...kstar-lava-loc/

 

lava-loc.jpg

 

I remember having that weird little troll thing it came with, and the glow-in-the-dark club, so I guess I must have gotten it new. Probably sold it off at a garage sale with my Masters of the Universe toys in 1990 or so. Mystery solved!



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Posted 05 June 2019 - 04:14 PM

I like your drawing better. :D


 
 
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Posted 05 June 2019 - 04:21 PM

I like your drawing better. :D

 

I think my memory just filled in all the blank parts with Rancor. 



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Posted 05 June 2019 - 09:27 PM

 

I like your drawing better. :D

 

I think my memory just filled in all the blank parts with Rancor. 

 

 

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Posted 05 June 2019 - 10:11 PM

 

 

I like your drawing better. :D

 

I think my memory just filled in all the blank parts with Rancor. 

 

 

that is the way of all things...

 

Gah, what else was on my shopping list?

 

Let's see... eggs, milk... hamburger helper and... Rancor! 

 

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Posted 06 June 2019 - 08:53 AM

 

 

 

I like your drawing better. :D

 

I think my memory just filled in all the blank parts with Rancor. 

 

 

that is the way of all things...

 

Gah, what else was on my shopping list?

 

Let's see... eggs, milk... hamburger helper and... Rancor! 

 

NO WAIT DAMN IT EVERY TIME!

 

What was the name of my kindergarten teacher?  Ms... Rancor?


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Posted 06 June 2019 - 09:13 AM

 

I like your drawing better. :D

 

I think my memory just filled in all the blank parts with Rancor. 

 

 

I mean, I kept thinking 'maybe he meant a rock monster'  and found a bunch of translucent 'volcano beasts'..



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Posted 06 June 2019 - 10:52 AM

Anyone remember these slightly bigger then Hot Wheels cars that could be flipped inside out to become a different car?

I remember they where on small ball joints to flip all the panels around and seeing them at Walgreens


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