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@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 06:18 PM)

"Prowl". There, that's at least fifteen.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Or do you want people to spam the Squawkbox with lists of 100 characters?

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Oky, just one question: If I were to say "Yes, I could", how could you be sure I'm not lying?

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:08 PM)

i don't go into people's threads that have no relevance to my interests just to be an ass by telling them that their comments and opinions are of no value just because they have no personal interest to me.

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:06 PM)

i think one of us is misunderstanding what the squawkbox is actually for.

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:06 PM)

and what is wrong with that? you respond to me to lessen your own boredom.

@  Bass X0 : (30 July 2020 - 06:05 PM)

I'm asking people if they think they could.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:05 PM)

Or did you just think of another random question to lessen your boredom?

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:04 PM)

Is this a survey?


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#41 Tyranno

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 03:37 PM

Dogging on the Unicron Trilogy like it's still relevant to do so

Every discussion about the movies getting derailed

Energon Optimus and Grandus fat jokes

Roberts' hamfisted attempts at mental health representation

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#42 Octavius Prime

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:02 PM

My biggest beef since the advent of the movies/Prime has been the disconnect between character design and toy engineering. I'm more flexible about it than I used to be (such as ignoring PotP Starscream's fake cockpit chest), but if there is zero relationship between the toy's alt mode and said alt mode's kibble on the robot mode, then there is an issue. This is why I hate the one-stepper type toys; I don't mind simple transformers, but the designs need to be made to match the level of transformational complexity.

#43 Marduk

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:21 PM

Beast Wars not being a thing anymore.

 

Optimus Prime being someone important rather than just someone who stepped up to the plate. I'll take a BW or Animated style Optimus any day.

 

Decepticons being unlikable monsters.  They're bad guys. I get it.  Can they at least be less, I dunno, evil? Less terrible characters? Do they all have to be jerks?

 

1984/1985/1986 characters being the most important characters ever.

 

Time not passing on Cybertron.  The 4 million years thing is hilariously bad if nothing happens in the interim.  Lets get Prime back there and there are no more Autobots and Decepticons and entire civilizations have come and gone while they were stuck on the Ark.  Think Forerunners from Halo but with more robots.

 

Seriously.  Beast Wars not being a thing anymore.

 

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#44 Jackpot

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:26 PM

Unreasonably long time spans.
Please please please don't ever let me hear "million years" again in any new continuity. It was never a good idea and makes almost every bit of storytelling way less credible.


Not enough likes in the world. Damn Costa's eyes for introducing it into the IDW-G1verse!

Though I would find it more acceptable if next time there's some lampshading that goes somewhere interesting. I'm imagining a human trying to wrap their brain around the age of the TF they're talking to. "Bumblebee, how is it even possible you're still naive and inexperienced when you're older than almost every species on this planet?" That could be a springboard to investigate the alien-ness of TF birth and aging and death. Like, is there a connection between the fact that they seem eternally stuck in their individual mental maturity levels and the fact that they're born adults and don't naturally die? How long did it take for "old" bots like Kup and Alpha Trion to get that way? The natural assumption is that it took millions of years, but what if it were much shorter, like even human-scale? And it's a thing that happens only rarely and kind of arbitrarily, disconnected from actual age - more like a disease than general entropy?

And of course right with that is the absurdity of them fighting the exact same war for so long. The contrast to human societies could perhaps be used to make a point about the value of death and rebirth.

Those are the best and worst of the fighters from both armies suddenly removed from the war. That's gonna change the dynamic of the fighting between who's left. Especially if we start letting there be multiple generations that come and go while the ships are off floating around in space. Technology advances, society changes, the factions shift, Optimus and Megatron are bland, sterile entries in history books. The returning warriors are entirely obsolete in every way - even Megatron who wants to exploit the new power (tech and political) is cast aside at every turn and Optimus must face the fact that he was playing part in holding Cybertron back because the advancements wouldn't have happened had he stayed.


Hm, like that one panel in G2 where Optimus is musing to Grimlock about what the Cybertronian Empire represents. I really liked that bit, and agree that it would be great to see it expanded. I mean, it's hilarious that G1-toon Shockwave took his final promise to Megatron so literally. But the joke's been done now.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:25 PM

People still using the term "Bayformers."
Woooo!

#46 Blot

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:05 PM

Grandus fat jokes

You'll take my Grandus fat jokes from me when you pry that double cheeseburger from his cold, dead hands.



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Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:38 PM

Mute and or radio speak Bumblebee, I watched the 12 episodes of Cyberverse that are out and quickly came to the conclusion that I like him during the flashbacks and in his mind, but despise him in the present with the radio talk.

 

Earth.

 

Hot Rod bashing.



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Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:45 PM

 

 

Optimus Prime being someone important rather than just someone who stepped up to the plate. 

"Optimus is just this guy, you know?"


(This is me super agreeing, not being snarky.)


Edited by Shrug, 09 November 2018 - 07:45 PM.

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#49 Sabrblade

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:11 PM

"One shall stand, one shall fall," and other TFTM quotes.

 

Let.

 

Them.

 

Die.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:11 PM

The only two factions in the planet spanning war are Autobots and Decepticons.  I want to see a third faction who hates both Autobots and Decepticons for the war.



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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:36 PM

Like the NAILs?



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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:38 PM

Loose elbow, hip, and knee joints.

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#53 Sabrblade

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:43 PM

The only two factions in the planet spanning war are Autobots and Decepticons.  I want to see a third faction who hates both Autobots and Decepticons for the war.

 

Like the NAILs?

 

Or the Star Seekers?

 

Or the Quintessons?

 

Or sometimes Unicron's minions?

 

Or Cemetery Wind?


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

#54 Pennpenn

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:44 PM

"One shall stand, one shall fall," and other TFTM quotes.

 

Let.

 

Them.

 

Die.

 

Apart from "One shall blurkle blurkle" which yes, should die, I can't say I've heard many TFTM quotes recently, and none save that one which I'm actually sick of.

 

 

Like the NAILs?

 

They weren't really a "faction" though, that was just a term made up by Prowl to describe a large and disparate group of people whose only unifying concept was that they didn't join a faction.

 

Edit: Also- sick of Optimus Prime and Megatron toys. I know why they're in every zoggin' line, but that doesn't mean I have to like it...


Edited by Pennpenn, 09 November 2018 - 09:52 PM.


#55 MidnightFox

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:53 PM

They were unified enough as a political faction for Starscream to leverage into pushing the Bots and Cons out of Iacon.


Edited by MidnightFox, 09 November 2018 - 09:54 PM.


#56 Sabrblade

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:55 PM

 

"One shall stand, one shall fall," and other TFTM quotes.

 

Let.

 

Them.

 

Die.

 

Apart from "One shall blurkle blurkle" which yes, should die, I can't say I've heard many TFTM quotes recently, and none save that one which I'm actually sick of.

 

Recent or not, they've still been quoted to death over the years to the point of exasperation.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

#57 MidnightFox

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:56 PM

 

 

"One shall stand, one shall fall," and other TFTM quotes.

 

Let.

 

Them.

 

Die.

 

Apart from "One shall blurkle blurkle" which yes, should die, I can't say I've heard many TFTM quotes recently, and none save that one which I'm actually sick of.

 

Recent or not, they've still been quoted to death over the years to the point of exasperation.

 

 

The Universal Greeting is seen enough both inside and outside of TF media/fandom to bore me.



#58 Pennpenn

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:36 PM

They were unified enough as a political faction for Starscream to leverage into pushing the Bots and Cons out of Iacon.

 

That was a mob, not a faction.



#59 Locoman

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:40 PM

I liked it in Revolutionaries, where the Universal Greeting was actually used for its intended purpose, rather than just "lol TFTM reference."

Edited by Locoman, 09 November 2018 - 10:40 PM.


#60 HellCat

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 05:24 AM

Fans who genuinely think G1 did Transformers perfectly and everything else is a crude imitation.

 

There is absolutely some solid stuff in the G1 toon and comics. Hell, Hasbro/Marvel scrapping Diaclone's mecha and making these things sentient transforming alien robots was brilliant. But I cannot stand these people who are so wrapped up in the nostalgia and interpretation they had of G1 from when they were 5 and honestly think it was this perfectly plotted epic that every other take can't hold a candle to.

 

Transformers has done very well at building on and evolving over time. It's one of the reasons I'm a passionate defender of Aligned. Would anyone have foreseen that by the 2000s Transformers had not only fine tuned its lore but become a clear icon of LGBT representation?

 

I thought Power Rangers was epic as a kid and there are parts of it I still think hold up. But when I watch it now, I see the very cheesey show on a shoestring budget that was clearly winging it most of the time. Please do the same, G1 fanboys.





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